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Title: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: TTT on July 10, 2008, 12:24:59 PM
I am feelin good.  Im listening to Anthem For a New Tomorrow, and god damn, it's real poppy, and it's real good.  And it reminds me of how awesome they were before they had to go get member sof Zoinks and Squirtgun and shit and try to de-evolve into weaker shit to gain a new lifespan.  I'm so mad about that!  Because Anthem and My Brain Hurts and Wiggle are SOOOO god damn good.  I am totally pretending they died after Anthem.  It makes me so mad!!!!  I just put this on and now I'm just realizing how much Ben Weasel snuck into my thought processes during my formative years.  It's kind of scary.  Like I'm hearing my conscience talk or something.  It's weird it subliminally did something after a billion listens.
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Post by: ski shoes on July 10, 2008, 12:53:58 PM
I feel your pain even though   "How to Make Friends" was pretty decent as well. I think it's one of those deals where you get old and run out of ideas and don't really care. Then you think oh shit...I don't know what else to do and I'm bored so I will just keep flogging this dead horse weather it sucks shit or not.
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Post by: TTT on July 10, 2008, 01:08:41 PM
its funny you said that cuz i was on the fence on stretching their winning streak that far.  Musically it is pretty good too.  but being that they started the whole "borrowing band members" trick on that one, and that they had definitely peaked and began the first hints at re-runs and screeching syndication....well, there ya go!  Some of those songs on that album really rule hard though.  Its really amazing how absolutely fucking terrible the albums after that are.  Comparatively.  I mean, you cant beat the other shit.  So i wish they just left it be!!!  AARRGH!  But Fat Mike prolly offered them a shit ton of money to get back together and they fell for it.  Tried to repeat it again, didnt do it.  So sad.  I miss the old records. 

And another thing....IM SICK of the god damn idiot kids buying the wrong records!  In general.  And also, labels DONT change the colors of the text and pics on reissues.  God dammit for us folks who take the album as a whole it really looks retarded when it flops into pink text or something.  Thats not what I grew up on.  Get that shit outta here!  haha! 
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Post by: kasanovich on July 10, 2008, 01:11:15 PM
ha! i completely agree on being bummed on record art changing subtly. dirt under the fingernails mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Post by: DANGERTERRORHORROR on July 10, 2008, 01:27:58 PM
Aren't they doing all of 'My Brain Hurts' in its entirety in Chicago later this summer?  Man oh man is that album great!  All the good shit came out of the Riverdales as soon as Weasel went wacky.  I'll say it again: Phase III, the Riverdales album from 2004/5 is REALLY good, too.  If your cool enough to like Head, get it.

On the flipside, I think the Groovie Ghoulies got BETTER with age, that 'Appetite' album people claim to like has NOTHING on 'Alone in the Dark.'
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Post by: ski shoes on July 10, 2008, 02:02:09 PM
Yeah those PHAT WRECTUMS records sucked dog ass. I rembember getting that Television City Dream album and wanting to vomit...I was so pissed I through it against my bedroom wall and that was the end of that.
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Post by: TTT on July 10, 2008, 03:15:49 PM
i remember this kid who drummed in a band in high school with me blew up a bracket record like that.  he wanted to specifically show me "how bad it sucked"....then it started to rock towards the end a bit, he acted surprised as shit and was relieved....but he pulled the needle off and blew it up against the wall anyway!  it was so funny.  just the way he was like "whoa...that IS kinda good..." and then you see him be like "bbrrrrr....POP!"  hahaha!  exploding records is so fun, but so harsh.  i can almost never do it.
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Post by: bazooka joe on July 10, 2008, 03:19:19 PM
screaching weasel is fucking awful.
Title: Re: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: ski shoes on July 10, 2008, 03:22:55 PM
They were Awfully fucking Good at one point I would say!!!
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Post by: TheHook on July 10, 2008, 03:36:06 PM
I WANNA BE!  I WANNA BE A news anchor.
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Post by: riffraff on July 10, 2008, 04:29:28 PM
Anthem is probably the only pop punk album I'd still play.
Title: Re: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: TTT on July 10, 2008, 04:57:17 PM
Im so sick of people trying to look cool on here.  BORING.  Guess what, Weasel was a great band.  Some people are totally afraid of pop-punk and try to pretend there was nothing good that came of it.  I understand.  But there's no way the band sucked until way way later. 
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Post by: TTT on July 10, 2008, 04:58:21 PM
I WANNA BE!  I WANNA BE A news anchor.

we're all gettin old.  need to settle into some shit.  it doesnt change the past.
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Post by: Scrod Prickknee on July 10, 2008, 05:09:13 PM
I just don't think any of that's aged very well, not gonna lie & say I didn't like it back when. Just sold off all my SW this week except for Boogada cuz I'll never listen to any of it again.
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Post by: ski shoes on July 10, 2008, 05:19:52 PM
I really wasn't a fan of Boogada except for a few tracks. As for not aging well.....I am finding much more solace in stuff like this than any new shit that most people brag up around here....It's like everyone is trying to find the most obscure dog shit record and pass it off as groundbreaking. I'll take fun punk!!!
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Post by: Scrod Prickknee on July 10, 2008, 05:25:06 PM
I'll take the Wax Museums and Nobunny records, thanks.
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Post by: ski shoes on July 10, 2008, 05:52:32 PM
I'll take those too along with the first two Sicko lp's, The High Fives,  Sloppy Seconds, Brents T.V., Sweet Baby, Sewer Trout, Riverdales, Nar, The Lizards, The early Queers, Boris The Sprinkler, The Bananas...I am sure there is more.
Title: Re: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: Scrod Prickknee on July 10, 2008, 06:01:27 PM
Some of those are good, of course, but I have no interest in listening to Sloppy Seconds or Boris the Sprinkler, for example. Part of it is where I lived when the pop punk thing went down (my throat).
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Post by: bazooka joe on July 10, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
Im so sick of people trying to look cool on here.  BORING.  Guess what, Weasel was a great band.  Some people are totally afraid of pop-punk and try to pretend there was nothing good that came of it.  I understand.  But there's no way the band sucked until way way later. 

i'm so sick of people rallying around their own bad taste.

now playing: pink floyd "meddle"
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Post by: ski shoes on July 10, 2008, 06:08:39 PM
I hear ya there too. I think the whole country was affected by the pop punk thing and there were a million shitty carbon copies inspired by these bands. Believe me I got it on the west coast as well and I had to take a break from most of those bands. Now though I can pull it out and have a great time listening to it again. If anybody cares you should check out the new band here in Portland Called the Mean Jeans. They are doing the pop punk  Ramones,Weasel, Samoans thing and doing it right!! Somebody needs to do an Album for gods sake!!!

Title: Re: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: Hugh Jass on July 10, 2008, 06:10:13 PM
Some of those are good, of course, but I have no interest in listening to Sloppy Seconds or Boris the Sprinkler, for example. Part of it is where I lived when the pop punk thing went down (my throat).
I think enough time has passed that I could now listen to (and enjoy) some of the better pop-punk bands that I loved in my early-mid 20's. I don't know if I could say the same about the bulk of the Estrus catalog, which I also loved at that time and haven't listened to in about 10 years. I'm guessing the Mono Men "Wrecker" LP won't sound as exciting to me today as that Sweet Baby LP.

Title: Re: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: ski shoes on July 10, 2008, 06:11:14 PM
Your listening to Pink Floyd and saying we have bad taste. Barret or not what a bunch of silly Hippies!
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Post by: bazooka joe on July 10, 2008, 06:12:21 PM
ironic, ain't it?

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Post by: ski shoes on July 10, 2008, 06:17:19 PM
I saw the Mono Men several times and all I can say is they were really, really, loud had no good songs and were like all Crider's bands... very boring. The early Estrus stuff still kicks ass over the latter when it seemed all that was on that label was  southern jam boogie blues hammer bands with about 30 minute solos and two drummers.
Title: Re: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: Scrod Prickknee on July 10, 2008, 06:30:56 PM
Some of those are good, of course, but I have no interest in listening to Sloppy Seconds or Boris the Sprinkler, for example. Part of it is where I lived when the pop punk thing went down (my throat).
I think enough time has passed that I could now listen to (and enjoy) some of the better pop-punk bands that I loved in my early-mid 20's. I don't know if I could say the same about the bulk of the Estrus catalog, which I also loved at that time and haven't listened to in about 10 years. I'm guessing the Mono Men "Wrecker" LP won't sound as exciting to me today as that Sweet Baby LP.

The only problem with this is you're comparing the "better pop punk" with a poor "garage" band. I'll take Oblivs & Mummies & Supercharger over any pop punk. But Sweet Baby is definitely still sounding cool.

I lived throughout the boom in Green Bay, home of Boris the Sprinkler, second home to the Queers and you-name-it. I don't even want to go into this, but it was everywhere and those GB kids are all now 20-somethings in Milwaukee and they still flip over pop punk (new & old bands), and it's a really limited genre...I've had enough. And a couple of the old GB kids have been playing in Ben Weasel's band lately (he lives in WI now).
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Post by: bazooka joe on July 10, 2008, 06:37:26 PM
ben weasels voice makes me sick.
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Post by: TTT on July 10, 2008, 07:23:10 PM
alright, i know im taking this too seriously, but whatever, if you want to read it fine, if not no biggie, dont read it. 


Well, I will admit that I am a total sucker for things that are unpopular.  These days pop-punk is hated.  Which means I'm very prone to give it a second chance. 

As for Weasel, I wouldn't say I love every track on every album or anything.  But I certainly wouldn't say the band sucked.  But whatever, I mean that's an opinion thing anyways.

Now as for the stylistic points of a band, you know fitting a rectangle into a square....sure they look similar and have four sides and all.  But they are really different.  For example SW is not an annoying run of the mill 15 year old copycat type band, and they wrote way better songs than Boris the Sprinkler did.  I mean, that's just the breaks.  I dont even see them in the same league. 

There's lots of different kinds of stuff on Wiggle for example.  So I don't really know if they should be lumped into the whole "they are playing in a limited genre" thing.  Yeah, I mean garage and hardcore can be seen that way too.  Metal.  Everything can be seen as "playing inside those limits".  But when you are not the run of the mill band, you kinda carve your own idiosyncrasies into it and just flat out make better sounding music that keeps just a bit of the base.  A bit of the back-drop.  A lot of the songs on their early albums, like My Brain Hurts... woulda been a lot of other bands best songs in terms of writing. 

They made songs that lots of times had good lyrics, either on the "dumb" smart side, or the "smart" smart sides of the fence.  And they were certainly able to develop some great melodies while retaining some type of edge to it.  Lots of pop-punk does not have any bite to it, but lots of Weasel did. 

Title: Re: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: goneoffdatlean on July 10, 2008, 07:27:15 PM
Anthem is the one SW record that is alright.  All else is boring outside of some of Boogadax3

I still have a copy of Thank you Very Little. 

I don't hate them but com' on SW was never a great band.  I'm not a total pop punk hater either...I love the 2nd Riverdales record but nigga please Screeching Weasel was only ok at best.  Let's stay focused, let's get real and trust me I gives a motherfuck about most of the horseshit people on this board hype.

Obscurity=homosexuality.
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Post by: Scrod Prickknee on July 10, 2008, 08:37:30 PM
I'm not a total pop punk hater either...I love the 2nd Riverdales record but nigga please Screeching Weasel was only ok at best. 

Same here. Riverdales actually did age fairly well, for some reason. "Garage" as it's classified now is everything from the Hunches to the Sneaky Pinks to Human Eye to Reigning Sound to Wax Museums to the Barbaras to Gentleman Jesse to Terrible Twos to Holy Shit! and beyond (according to the ass-hats who are primarily into indie, metal or hardcore), so hopefully you're talking the American teens in '66 version, and even then...if you think the Back From the Grave bands worked with the same sized palette, fine, you may have a point. But there's no way that foundation (tightly post-post-Ramones) is as rich a mine. Not in a million years. I've heard all pop punk has to offer. But if there's a good tune here and there, great. Screeching Weasel has predictable songwriting, especially after that many releases. I'm filled up to here with SW tunes. Spilling over. Too many other things I want to hear that might surprise me.
Title: Re: Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.
Post by: TTT on July 11, 2008, 07:32:37 AM
you guys have good points and its nice to hear you are just being honest too.  feels respectable. 

im not a pop-punker or anything and dont get into it at all most of the time.  but i like certain bands a lot.  i think the fact that Anthem For a New Tomorrow's last two songs are "Claire Monet" followed by the title track is a pretty damn good stylistic spread.  Both have aged perfectly.

2 main things to understand why I talk like this:

1. Writing-wise....songs like "Claire Monet" or "Three Sides" (i think thats the title) would be A-sides on any stellar 45 today.  If they were recorded by a different singer or whatever....more lo-fi...whatever....to taste.  The writing is there.  And that's what I love the most.  The band is kinda just the scraggly vehicle for their thoughts.

2. I know this is totally theoretical "in a vaccuum talk" that is in no way applicable ok...but if every single record ever made came out on the same day and no records were ever made after that day....people would look at them a lot differently and like more things out of their usual suspects I'd bet.  Now I know somebody's bound to be like "yeah but they were influenced by this band that band etc, and thats part of it....its watered down".  And to that I say give them the benfit of the doubt at first.  Maybe they just like doing a style and it's simulataneously coming together, like Jung's collective unconscious thing (I think it was Jung, whatever).  And I don't think the first crop of pop-punkers in the main Lookout! family circle were ever trying to be that incestuous about it.  Lookout! just honed in on the bands that did the sound.  The Queers are very different from Weasel.  VERY.  You will never hear the Queers play This Bud's For Me.  I mean you won't. 

I just don't think the original crop of these bands is at fault for not aging well or something because they did what they did the best, and that was their zone.  In art history you don't flip through the book to French Rococo interiors and say "that didn't age well".  That's the POINT dudes.  It's what it was and it's why it's in the book being covered for it's initial impact.  It doesn't mean I'm painting my kitchen like a whorehouse.  And it doesn't mean I love pop-punk.  It means I respect the ones who did it well for what they did to develop it.

Next rant: Hard-bop.
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Post by: goneoffdatlean on July 11, 2008, 08:23:32 AM
I'll give you this, my mellow, "Claire Monet" is on the saddest, touching songs I've ever heard.  The title track makes me laugh, it is so silly especially with all the guest vocals.
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Post by: TTT on July 11, 2008, 08:40:59 AM
I can see where you'd say that for sure.  glad you like Claire Monet at least!  dang.  Theres similar stuff to that on the Kill The Musicians comp.  Towards the end.  and middle before the Ramones covers area of the record. 

mainly i was bringing those two up because they sit side by side and are so different.  just to deflate the whole "dude its all the same" idea. 

PS, yeah I am pretty sure every band around then had at least one attempt at a Jawbreaker song.  They took it really far with using Blake on a blatantly Jawbreaker-esque song.  That always made me think about how Blake actually felt about being in there recording something so clearly taken from him.  But at least it has cool lyrics and the rhythm guitar riff is pretty cool.  Its very dramatic though.  These 90's bands that were usually so poppy and then took some Jawbreaker as an experiment...well, when it flopped, it REALLY flopped.  Some bands just can't do it like some 24 Hour Revenge Therapy.  I mean you can't.  I remember J Church for a while really got into that mode.  But you can't have bands like MTX doing it.  I mean thats just real bogus....people know you a whole different way, so thats when people crumble.  Doing that type of shit. 

Also...Young Steve....being the huge fan of instantly catchy "pop" songs with melody that you can instantly dig on...what's you take TALK TO ME SUMMER.  Holy shit.  I mean it might make you feel gay at first listening to it, but it's really good.  So I'll pull the dildo out of my butt when I'm finished with that one for sure. 
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Post by: scott b on July 11, 2008, 12:12:24 PM
ahhh this brings me back.  i downloaded anthem last night and can't say it has aged well.  i remember blasting this stuff though, along with winepress (homewood!!!)

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Post by: TTT on July 11, 2008, 12:15:14 PM
DUDE!  WINEPRESS!  holy shit.  Mushugunas, AYA, man o man.  See you have a feel for why I'm like this at least.  I was gonna repress the Winepress 7"s but I think they wanted them on CD. 
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Post by: Scrod Prickknee on July 11, 2008, 12:16:29 PM
Mushuganas were so bad, fuck...and then they "went rock 'n roll" and were even worse. Funny to look at with their haystacks & all, but that's all they were worth.
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Post by: bazooka joe on July 11, 2008, 12:19:53 PM
ahhh this brings me back.  i downloaded anthem last night and can't say it has aged well.


not to sound "cool" but i never thought they were good when i was in my early 20's (over 10 years ago) and my taste still wasn't fully developed and my best friend was all over them. goddamn, i hate getting accused of being "to cool" for not liking shit.
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Post by: TTT on July 11, 2008, 12:21:58 PM
Naw, not accusing you...I was putting it out there cuz lotsa people do that tho and I didnt know if you were so I put the flag up.  I know you dont like it now.

Mushuganas were so bad, fuck...and then they "went rock 'n roll" and were even worse. Funny to look at with their haystacks & all, but that's all they were worth.

did you ever hear the split with Chemical Blue?  the 3 songs on that were some of my faves and still are.  Very sloppy and loose but creative and brutishly melodic too.  

I'm gettin drunk tonight in Homewood so Ill have to go pour some out on Off the Alley's final resting place.  The alley it was off of.  It's "Homewood Days" tonight I guess.  The soccer mom fest that provides an interesting back-drop for aging punks to get wasted in.
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Post by: scott b on July 11, 2008, 12:26:49 PM
i never got into the mushuganas, but winepress does have a special place in my heart, being from my good ol' suburban hometown.  

yea, winepress does have like a retrospective cd of all their traxxx.

ahhh this brings me back.  i downloaded anthem last night and can't say it has aged well.


not to sound "cool" but i never thought they were good when i was in my early 20's (over 10 years ago) and my taste still wasn't fully developed and my best friend was all over them. goddamn, i hate getting accused of being "to cool" for not liking shit.

who is accusing you of being "too cool"? ya like what ya like broooooo

Naw, not accusing you...I was putting it out there cuz lotsa people do that tho and I didnt know if you were so I put the flag up.  I know you dont like it now.

Mushuganas were so bad, fuck...and then they "went rock 'n roll" and were even worse. Funny to look at with their haystacks & all, but that's all they were worth.

did you ever hear the split with Chemical Blue?  the 3 songs on that were some of my faves and still are.  Very sloppy and loose but creative and brutishly melodic too.  

I'm gettin drunk tonight in Homewood so Ill have to go pour some out on Off the Alley's final resting place.  The alley it was off of.  It's "Homewood Days" tonight I guess.  The soccer mom fest that provides an interesting back-drop for aging punks to get wasted in.

don't forget record swap
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Post by: TTT on July 11, 2008, 12:30:42 PM
yeah...i heard they were playing some shows too.  oh ill pass record swap.  i think fiction house is still there tho.  maybe im wrong. 

also, what the fuck happened to bossanova?  i remember going in there years ago, and ryan was telling me about that retrospective comp thing back then...since then I think they closed but i dont know.  it was out in lansing.  not too many reasons to go there.
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Post by: bazooka joe on July 12, 2008, 07:00:27 AM
Im so sick of people trying to look cool on here.  BORING. [/qoute]


no biggie though. i just dont care. gonna go back to sleep now!
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Post by: Dan Celebrity on July 12, 2008, 11:02:32 AM
Mushuganas were so bad, fuck...and then they "went rock 'n roll" and were even worse. Funny to look at with their haystacks & all, but that's all they were worth.

When they changed to a hardcore band (The Repos) they were pretty ripping though!  Mushuganas though, awful.
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Post by: Late Twenties Steve on July 12, 2008, 11:19:09 AM

Also...Young Steve....being the huge fan of instantly catchy "pop" songs with melody that you can instantly dig on...what's you take TALK TO ME SUMMER.  Holy shit.  I mean it might make you feel gay at first listening to it, but it's really good.  So I'll pull the dildo out of my butt when I'm finished with that one for sure. 


You'll have to ask that question in the proper thread. I will say this though, you're right on in your assessment of Screeching Weasel writing a lot of great songs. I'm not a fan of stuff like the title track to "Anthem..." for the reasons Troy mentioned, but hey I think every album from "My Brain Hurts" to "How to Make Enemies" has a number of first rate tunes that would be more popular today with the Termbo crowd if it wasn't for the bad memories caused by all of the Weasel imitators. There are a couple stylistic touches here and there with Screeching Weasel tunes that have been kind of ruined for me, like going, "whoa oh oh oh" but that still doesn't ruin a song like "Highschool Psychopath."

Look, here's the deal with Screeching Weasel: they were doing something unique for their time in that they were trying to write catchy pop songs without a high degree of technical proficiency. It's not their fault that a sound which developed from their idiosyncrasies became a codified style that turned into one of the most nauseating genre ghettos of the 90's. I mean fuck trying to sing like Ben Weasel, but his voice wasn't an affected caricature like that of his imitators. Dude just didn't have a good voice and was trying to sing as well as he could within his limitations.

Of course, I don't stand by the post-Riverdales SW albums at all - particularly "Bark Like a Dog" - but for some reason I've got a soft spot for that EP with the $50 on the cover. I dunno why. It's the only Screeching Weasel I own on vinyl too. I'd like to pick up Lookout pressings of the other records at some point. When I was at Discourage I contemplated buying the "Punkhouse" EP but didn't because I wanted to avoid getting made fun of by the other two members of Boys Club. I shoulda picked it up anyway.
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Post by: roadkill33 on November 09, 2008, 05:18:41 PM
mushuganas awful??? weird. maybe its nostalgia but i still like the old stuff.  i had a two hour tape that had all of their singles and comp tracks, and the then unreleased first album... would listen to that ALL the time.   eh, i could see how some people thought it was garbage. it kinda was.  oh well. i liked their rock and roll album a bit too... though it wasn't much the same band at all.


bout screeching weasel - anyone have a scan of the back cover (i forget which it was, either television city dream or emo...) with some people standing around??  i forgot what joey vindictive and dummyroom girl's daughter looked like, but i remember having a crush on her when she sold records at shows back in like '97.   would be funny to see that picture now.
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Post by: Matt V. on November 14, 2008, 01:40:20 PM
i really wanna hear this 3rd riverdales album now. the second one is probably the best pop punk album of the 90's.

re screeching weasel: i dont have anything to add other than i liked 'em a lot back then but have absoltuely no interest in hearing them now. 'major label debut' (the $50 bill ep) wasn't bad. i think 'kill the musicians' was my favorite.
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Post by: nikkeisindex on December 14, 2008, 09:12:36 PM
wow...  I remember going to Dummyroom a lot when I was bored and lived nearby.  The cute chick working there (who I always thought was Joey's wife) actually recommended "Terminal Boredom" when I asked what was good.

Screeching Weasel will always hold a special place in my heart from being in my hometown (well, Chicago suburbs anyway) and for being the first punk band that really connected with me.  Not best, but first.  I was 16 and spinning through some metal and alternative stuff, and right about that time I borrowed Wiggle from a dude and can still clearly remember sitting in front of my parents' stereo and within the first ten seconds feeling that connect DIRECTLY and was like "THIS.  THIS is what I have been looking for."

Of course that also happened with ska at that time.  Hearing totally awesome, at that time still totally obscure music that was "underground" yet in direct contrast to the popular feel-shitty tunes of the time (Nirvana, Pearl Jam) was such a thrill.

Around that time I got MTX Our Bodies Our Selves which I thought was good and they kept getting better.  I still think Revenge is Sweet is a great album.  I think My Brain Hurts and How to Make Enemies are the best Screeching Weasel albums start to finish.  Other albums may have better tracks here and there.  The best 2/3 of Anthem are better...

I still like the Queers Love Songs for the Retarded..  I got to see them with maybe Rancid and the Voodoo Glow Skulls for $5 at Scrap Skate Park.  Also spent a lot of time at Beloit Alumni House and of course Fireside Bowl.

I always loved the Mushugunas.  My old ska band Greenhouse played with them at Off the Alley once.  I always really liked all the Chicago punk bands as well as ska, but there didn't seem to be much overlap, or more specifically, punk bands seemed way too cool for ska.

Maybe it was me getting older or those bands getting worse or both, but none of the newer Queers, MTX, Screeching Weasel stuff sound very good to me.  (I haven't heard much new Queers though.)  My guess, which is definite idle theorizing, is that those bands really do think they're doing their best stuff now, and that's ok, good for them.  I don't expect bands to crank out the same album over and over and have it be good.

Bands change and evolve and when they do it in a way you like (Registrators) they become way more than just a good rock band.  And when they don't, they lose you, but I can still believe they are following an honest vision they believe to be best.
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Post by: Gianky on June 03, 2009, 07:44:32 AM
Boogada Boogada Boogada!!!!!!
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Post by: publicimagedanno on July 10, 2009, 01:41:02 PM
Screeching Weasel put on a killer show when they played Emo's a couple of weeks ago. Haven't listened to their records in many a moon but the show was fun and Ben Weasel is still a dick. The show sold out and I heard people were paying up to $180 for a ticket,what the fuck. Oh ya' the Riverdales played the next night,never listened to 'em,needless to say I didn't go.
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Post by: vulture on July 10, 2009, 08:24:01 PM
once i got a lapdance to screeching weasel...
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Post by: zeromus on August 30, 2009, 01:13:49 AM
man. screeching weasel were okay, i had a few of their albums in high school, but i always i felt like a lot of their popularity outside of whatever original following they had came from association, like with lookout and like when mike dirnt wore a screeching weasel shirt at woodstock 94. it is okay basic pop punk but as was posted earlier other bands like the queers and the high fives were much better. ben weasel's vocals were obnoxious, but i suppose that was the point i guess.

what about this though? does anyone else know about how ben weasel had a radio show with espn? i don't want to get political in the slightest but i think it is totally weird how ben weasel was like the whole spearheader of the "punks for mccain" movement. dude from the vindictives has some blog as a wtf to the new ben weasel republican thing.

also i read that screeching weasel was going to be playing some reunion shows and that jughead found out about them from the internet and was never contacted.
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Post by: Claire Dactyl on August 30, 2009, 04:04:59 AM
Whoa, Justin Perkins is in Screeching Weasel now?  What the fuck?
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Post by: Scrod Prickknee on August 30, 2009, 08:36:34 AM
Whoa, Justin Perkins is in Screeching Weasel now?  What the fuck?

Yeah, and Drew (who lives 50 feet away from me now) and the Obsoletes drummer (John? I always forget) played with SW recently, as well. There's also a new Riverdales line-up that I think includes Justin. Ben lives in Madison now.
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Post by: Claire Dactyl on August 30, 2009, 11:56:52 AM
Yeah, I knew Drew had been in some sort of Ben Weasel backing band and all, but Justin appears to be in the newly reformed band actually calling itself Screeching Weasel.

Weird.
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Post by: Scrod Prickknee on August 30, 2009, 12:56:01 PM
Yeah, I knew Drew had been in some sort of Ben Weasel backing band and all, but Justin appears to be in the newly reformed band actually calling itself Screeching Weasel.

Weird.

Drew, Justin & the Obsoletes' drummer played shows as Screeching Weasel several times, and planned on recording that way or whatever, but Drew bowed out and I'm not sure about drummer dude.
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Post by: JAGUAR RIDE on August 31, 2009, 05:54:24 PM
I am feelin good.  Im listening to Anthem For a New Tomorrow, and god damn, it's real poppy, and it's real good.  And it reminds me of how awesome they were before they had to go get member sof Zoinks and Squirtgun and shit and try to de-evolve into weaker shit to gain a new lifespan.  I'm so mad about that!  Because Anthem and My Brain Hurts and Wiggle are SOOOO god damn good.  I am totally pretending they died after Anthem.  It makes me so mad!!!!  I just put this on and now I'm just realizing how much Ben Weasel snuck into my thought processes during my formative years.  It's kind of scary.  Like I'm hearing my conscience talk or something.  It's weird it subliminally did something after a billion listens.
the Squirtgun song 'social' is a rippa..
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Post by: Useless Eater on August 31, 2009, 10:19:12 PM
the Squirtgun song 'social' is a rippa..

That reminds me that I haven't seen Mallrats in almost a month.

i really wanna hear this 3rd riverdales album now. the second one is probably the best pop punk album of the 90's.

Wrong!  You must love the Hanson Brothers 2nd LP Sudden Death and the Riverdales 2nd LP Storm The Streets equally.  Then you place Head's Street Level Assault and The Monkeys over both of those because those dudes are the champions of the awkward, loser, loners club.  

And I haven't listened to Screeching Weasel in over a decade.  I might like a few songs from each record, like all but a few records that I have ever heard.

And in full disclosure mode I have only been to one skronkin free jass show and I was told by fans of said show that I wasn't smart enough to enjoy the sounds that the two dudes with LOTR names were making.  I think that I maybe got a 10% on that show's final exam.  I lost over half of the exam's points for leaving 20 minutes into the second song.  I knew that a song had ended because some people that looked like professors clapped politely.  I got that question right and it wasn't even multiple choice.  Next time I will study hard and I hope that in a few years I will overcome this affliction and will finally understand this music that isn't music or catchy.

Bonus picture for reading my confessional:
(http://www.athossampaio.com/site/images/ilustras/SaxCyan_web2.jpg)
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Post by: Sunshine on August 31, 2009, 10:25:38 PM
. it is okay basic pop punk but as was posted earlier other bands like the queers and the high fives were much better. ben weasel's vocals were obnoxious, but i suppose that was the point i guess.

Like oh my gawd yours was the 27th post,which is also tattooed on ben foser,sorry weasels arm. And like totally kewl you knew it was one of his favorite numbers....

And Wow like both those other bands suck bad meanwhile S.W had some sort of "wit" behind it and oh so overdone Clever songs. Those two ...besides the queers first two 7"s...Mega Ultra Gigaggggayyy
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Post by: JAGUAR RIDE on August 31, 2009, 10:26:10 PM
talking of the Hanson brothers I remeber rewinding and pausing slapshots on vhs and jerkin' it to the bewbs scene.
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Post by: Useless Eater on August 31, 2009, 10:36:57 PM
70's boobs.
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Post by: TTT on September 18, 2009, 06:59:29 AM
Gues what punx, Im about to RUIN YOUR LIFE. 

BOOGADA SOUNDS eXACTLY LIKE CHRONIC SICK 7".  Go listen if you dont agree your ears are full of hi bias tape.

And check the 12" for pre-Fat Wreck sounds.  Specially on the Dress Code solo.  PUNK 4 LIFE.  NO POP PUNKERs.  MAN. 
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Post by: jason on September 18, 2009, 09:20:44 PM
talking of the Hanson brothers I remeber rewinding and pausing slapshots on vhs and jerkin' it to the bewbs scene.


 i remember my dad making watch that movie when i was 10
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Post by: roadkill33 on December 06, 2009, 12:55:05 PM
look what they did to the cover of 'my brain hurts' on its LP reissue...
(http://www.razorcake.org/catalog/images/screeching_weasel_brain_lp.jpg)

sheesh!  oh, and yeah they should have quit post-lookout, or at least called it something else.  once the weasel logo went color (bark like a dog) it was all downhill from there. 
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Post by: roadkill33 on December 06, 2009, 01:46:09 PM
and the problem now (and why i was looking at this thread) is that i am thinking about going to see them in february.  i know it is a different band, but i saw a set list from the riot fest show i skipped out on and got a little nostalgic.  one of my best friends who was WAY more into them than i was when we were kids said it was pretty fufilling.  when i saw the set list filled with a bunch of my brain hurts songs i wished i hadn't decided to NOT go to that closing night of riot fest (i had the pass, mostly cuz i wanted to see butthole surfers, dead milkmen twice and the half hour supposed last stand of apocalypse hoboken) but i drunkenly fell down some stairs the night before, and also the alkaline trio crowd lining up at the congress at 10 am were part of the reason i gave up and decided NOT to go to that show.

so do i go see them? i don't know. like i said, i'm thinking about it. revisiting the lookout stuff i am realizing i seemed to like those albums more than i remembered!  never owned anything other than the first lp reissue on vml, kill the musicians and wiggle, but heard the others countless times and probably had cassete copies of them too. my brain hurts is really more solid than i ever thought i would consider it. and if the newly reformed weasel is playing mostly those kind of songs, i think maybe i would dig it.
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Post by: smallguy on December 07, 2009, 07:38:01 AM
One of my buddies from my teen years had a Screeching Weasel tattoo on one arm and a Napalm Death one on the other.

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Post by: anal satan on December 18, 2009, 01:07:17 PM
April 23rd or 24th in Philly.  My friend already bought me a ticket so I guess I'm going.   

...Eh, maybe it won't be that bad.  Who knows?
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Post by: jason on December 18, 2009, 01:13:27 PM
a friend of mine saw them in edmonton a few weeks , he said they only played the old good shit
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Post by: FDH records on December 18, 2009, 01:37:23 PM
April 23rd in Philly. Just got tickets (got extras if anyone needs). Im really excited for it. I mean Im sure it wont be like seeing them in the hayday but it will just be nice to hear some of my favorite songs from my youth played live.
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Post by: roadkill33 on December 18, 2009, 01:54:12 PM
well weasel pioneered the 'half hour set' even back when they were an 'active band' (early 90s).  they will play for about 30 minutes and a lot of it will be from my brain hurts. 
somewhere around 2000 they did a one off show at house of blues in chicago that was their first in a loooooooong time. it was advertised as 'a half hour of screeching weasel'.


still undecided on whether or not to go, maybe im too late.
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Post by: P-TNT on February 19, 2010, 02:08:38 PM
listened to my brain hurts today twice. TWICE