what about a small town on the coast?
radiohead
Midwest big city life.
Ugh, no. That means Shitcago.
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Move to Portland and enjoy yourself
All places except San Francisco fuckin suck
Move to Portland and enjoy yourself
Most of the people I knew in Portland were completely self-destructive, unemployed, depressed & generally on the brink of suicide. Ohio is like a total feel good state in comparison.
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All places except San Francisco fuckin suck
u been to miami bro?
All places except San Francisco fuckin suck
u been to miami bro?
nah, but I'm never going back to Florida
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ill getchya when u and kev come visit chicago one day...
All places except San Francisco fuckin suck
u been to miami bro?
nah, but I'm never going back to Florida
miami is raw dude u'd dig that shit, mad hoes. i'ma be in SF in march me u n vinnie gotta tear it up
Umm.. there are 'big cities' in the midwest.. does Chicago not count? What about Minneapolis, Indianapolis, Detroit, etc?
How about north vs south? Civil war termbo style?
And define which states are officially 'midwest'
I WANT A MAP.
All places except San Francisco fuckin suck
u been to miami bro?
nah, but I'm never going back to Florida
miami is raw dude u'd dig that shit, mad hoes. i'ma be in SF in march me u n vinnie gotta tear it up
what're you gonna be in town for????? We gotta go to Ruby Sky
All places except San Francisco fuckin suck
u been to miami bro?
nah, but I'm never going back to Florida
miami is raw dude u'd dig that shit, mad hoes. i'ma be in SF in march me u n vinnie gotta tear it up
what're you gonna be in town for????? We gotta go to Ruby Sky
spring break 2010 baby, down for ruby sky, bringing my leather btw. yedamang
The Midwest is the closest thing to hell on Earth that I can imagine: brutal soul killing winters, flat scenery, gray skies, salt of the Earth hick types as far as the eye can see, a lack of convenient mass transit (read: trains that can take you anywhere), and the corn atop the shit sundae is the mystifying sense of local pride that infuses the spirit of most Midwesterners. I seriously think killing oneself is a better alternative to living in the Midwest for the rest of ones life.
I've been here for all but one of my thirty years on Earth, and all melodtrama aside, I'd honestly rather get hit by a bus than spend another ten years here.
On the other end of the spectrum, I just got back from Tokyo a few days ago: sunny skies every day for two weeks, temps in the high forties to low sixties every day, an incredible train system that eliminates the need to own a car, and stimulating experiences around every corner. For me it's the closest thing to an Earthly paradise conceivable. The only problem is that I'm an American by birth and don't want to work a dead end job as an English teaching monkey, which is about the only possibility available to me at this stage in the game.
People always tell me mass transit in Milwaukee works just fine
People always tell me mass transit in Milwaukee works just fine (I wouldn't know). I'm not sure about the boring gray flatlands thing, when I live in a state bordered by the 2 largest Great Lakes (1/5 of the world's fresh water) and the biggest river in North America. Not to mention the most lakes of any state in the country. Half the state is hilly woodlands. Hell, northern MN is the same. The people here are the best I've encountered, and I've been everywhere.
Japan sucks!!!
That being said, I still wanna live somewhere with at least four good shows a week and bars/restaurants/theaters/clubs that are within walking distance.
People always tell me mass transit in Milwaukee works just fine (I wouldn't know). I'm not sure about the boring gray flatlands thing, when I live in a state bordered by the 2 largest Great Lakes (1/5 of the world's fresh water) and the biggest river in North America. Not to mention the most lakes of any state in the country. Half the state is hilly woodlands. Hell, northern MN is the same. The people here are the best I've encountered, and I've been everywhere.
Japan sucks!!!
"Mass Transit" in the Midwest sucks balls. I'm talking trains that run every ten minutes at the very worst and take you within 20 minutes of almost anywhere you want to go, as opposed to an ill-run, poorly laid out bus system frequented by drunks and crackheads at all times of the day. The perception - and hence partially the reality - of mass transit in the Midwest is that its for people with revoked licenses or who can't afford to drive. Go on a train in Tokyo and it's all regular folks. My problems with the Midwest are many, but driving and the weather are the absolute worst..
The Midwest is the closest thing to hell on Earth that I can imagine: brutal soul killing winters, flat scenery, gray skies, salt of the Earth hick types as far as the eye can see, a lack of convenient mass transit (read: trains that can take you anywhere), and the corn atop the shit sundae is the mystifying sense of local pride that infuses the spirit of most Midwesterners. I seriously think killing oneself is a better alternative to living in the Midwest for the rest of ones life.
I've been here for all but one of my thirty years on Earth, and all melodtrama aside, I'd honestly rather get hit by a bus than spend another ten years here.
On the other end of the spectrum, I just got back from Tokyo a few days ago: sunny skies every day for two weeks, temps in the high forties to low sixties every day, an incredible train system that eliminates the need to own a car, and stimulating experiences around every corner. For me it's the closest thing to an Earthly paradise conceivable. The only problem is that I'm an American by birth and don't want to work a dead end job as an English teaching monkey, which is about the only possibility available to me at this stage in the game.
All places except San Francisco fuckin suck
It's not an either/or situation. I haven't found a way to live yet that suits me, but living in the Midwest makes me so depressed I can't even think of any solutions.
I love living in Japan, but the only job I'm qualified to do there right now is work as an English teaching monkey, which was a horribly degrading experience. There's no fantasy involved where Japan is this perfect world or anything, I just honestly find myself much happier and at home when I'm there than when I'm truly "at home." Also, I have a lot more friends there than here, I find it easier to relate to them than people here, my girlfriend is there, etc.
My main problem in life is that I can't stand being just another shlub and anything I do that makes me feel like such is intolerable. That's why - pardon the melodrama - I'd honestly rather die than do about 99% of jobs out there. I mean if I'm going to hate the vast majority of my life spent at work, what's the point? I don't know what suits me in terms of a career, but I know perfectly well what doesn't. I liked working as a teacher alright, but the pay is terrible and at my core I really desire wealth and comfort. I'd hate to live an inauthentic life of tedium as a lawyer or something in order to achieve that though.
So yeah, I don't know what the fuck to do with my life. Thanks for calling me out on that one there. Super penetrating analysis. But living here only makes it worse.
It's not an either/or situation. I haven't found a way to live yet that suits me, but living in the Midwest makes me so depressed I can't even think of any solutions.
I love living in Japan, but the only job I'm qualified to do there right now is work as an English teaching monkey, which was a horribly degrading experience. There's no fantasy involved where Japan is this perfect world or anything, I just honestly find myself much happier and at home when I'm there than when I'm truly "at home." Also, I have a lot more friends there than here, I find it easier to relate to them than people here, my girlfriend is there, etc.
My main problem in life is that I can't stand being just another shlub and anything I do that makes me feel like such is intolerable. That's why - pardon the melodrama - I'd honestly rather die than do about 99% of jobs out there. I mean if I'm going to hate the vast majority of my life spent at work, what's the point? I don't know what suits me in terms of a career, but I know perfectly well what doesn't. I liked working as a teacher alright, but the pay is terrible and at my core I really desire wealth and comfort. I'd hate to live an inauthentic life of tedium as a lawyer or something in order to achieve that though.
So yeah, I don't know what the fuck to do with my life. Thanks for calling me out on that one there. Super penetrating analysis. But living here only makes it worse.
As an ex-Minnesotan (as much as I hate to), I gotta say that it's probably the worst place in the Midwest (outside of somewhere like Nebraska, if that counts). Coldest winters, worst music scene, way more pretentious, straight-laced, and dorky than Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, etc.... have you ever lived in other states in the region?
And I don't know how old you are, but if you're pushing 30 and aren't on your way to "wealth and comfort" by this point, it's probably time to put that dream to rest, unless you're from old money or don't mind earning your living through drug dealing or something else illegal...
I've never lived anywhere else in the USA but Minnesota but I've been to plenty of other places and they all sucked.
ever consider that it is YOU who is the problem?
I have nothing to do with you hating yourself... but you know, whatever gets you through the night.
Steve, you may be a little misguided. Yeh I mean, you are 30, so any dreams of being wealthy and comfortable are pretty much closed unless you really luck out. Why not just teach? I mean the salaries are decent and you will be comfortable but not wealthy. You really have to plan out yer life to really get rich, i.e set up some kind of career in your early 20s, have a real goal/path.
I have nothing to do with you hating yourself... but you know, whatever gets you through the night.
I don't hate myself, but I sure do hate smug assholes like yourself. You're such a fucking douche it's unreal.
Correct me if I'm wrong here...but isn't it easier as a male to get a teaching job? I know all through growing up - I always heard the various school systems in our area always were in need of male teachers/coaches/staff etc.
Steve, you may be a little misguided. Yeh I mean, you are 30, so any dreams of being wealthy and comfortable are pretty much closed unless you really luck out. Why not just teach? I mean the salaries are decent and you will be comfortable but not wealthy. You really have to plan out yer life to really get rich, i.e set up some kind of career in your early 20s, have a real goal/path.
40K for a single dude is more than enough to pay the bills and have extra money for yourself. You have no reason to expect to make 70K, it's unrealistic and you haven't done any work to even think of getting a salary like that. Sounds harsh, but that's life. It kinda seems like you have some kind of entitlement issues. Not trying to be a dick, but just saying that's how it seems.
I don't need to be super wealthy, but making like 40 grand a year as a teacher is just too small a wage to live well on. I think I'd need minimum 70 a year to be content.
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Ohio can't be fucked with in terms of clinical depression, virtually endless unemployment, shitty weather, and the most vital music. Life's a trade-off. Move to Portland and enjoy yourself or dig yourself a grave in Ohio and write an album that will change lives.