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Terminal Boardumb => Music Shit => Topic started by: Clint on November 12, 2010, 11:21:40 PM
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So is there any news as to when the Laughner box set on Smog Veil is actually coming out? The one talked about here: http://terminal-boredom.com/forums/index.php?topic=9633.msg265527#msg265527 (http://terminal-boredom.com/forums/index.php?topic=9633.msg265527#msg265527)
There's nothing on the Smog Veil site about it, but a blog post from a year prior said this:
clevo-centric chicago-based label smog veil reports that their long-anticipated peter laughner box set is now due for a november 2010 release. from their facebook page:
The delays are due to the fact that we keep unearthing newly found recordings; plus, each interview we do leads us to 2 more people we have to talk to. As it stands, I think we've exhausted the audio search and am awaiting studio dupes of 5 newly found reels. I'm also awaiting delivery of one last reel. About 125 songs at this point, chosen from about 300.
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Can somebody just pay me for the "Take the Guitar Player For a Ride" 2-LP set on Tim Kerr Records that I bought when it came out in 1990-something. No, I'm not trying to sell it, I just think somebody should pay me for owning it! I'M FUCKING GREAT!
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can i get some money for owning it as well as the reboxed pere ubu 7"s on same label, just finished the cheetah book tonight
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Wish I still had my "Final Solution" 7 that Laughner autographed "Others talk, we do."
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Gosh, I really was rather drunk last night. Peter would be proud.
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huh listening to Rocket (v. 1) doing "Ain't It Fun" rightfuckingnow
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I finished the Cheetah book today as well! Weird!
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Wish I still had my "Final Solution" 7 that Laughner autographed "Others talk, we do."
When/why did you sell? That's priceless!
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We are doing a series of LP releases, starting in April, 2011 with the Ann Arbor Tapes, a recording made in 1976. All releases will include amazing liners and photos. Also, we plan 2 more releases in the series in 2011, a reissue of Notes On A Cocktail Napkin and recordings Peter made prior to January 1, 1970.
All the releases will probably be compiled onto 1 CD at the end of 2011. The series will of course continue on beyond 2011. 2012 plans include the complete Fins recordings (we found 6 more songs besides the SOL 7").
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Awesome. Very exciting. Please don't make them look ugly.
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Awesome. Very exciting. Please don't make them look ugly.
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Been listening to Take the Guitar Player for a Ride a lot recently and was reminded of this thread and the forthcoming reissues. Will the Ann Arbor Tapes LP still be coming out on 'Record Store Day' ? And what's after that? Any update is appreciated.
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i interviewed frank from smog veil for the newest issue of ngl, which should shed some light on the situation of these releases.
peter laughner was a saint, and so was val kilmer, appparently.
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It's just a joke, mon.
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he was young when he died, but he still helped create the first sets from pere ubu and the dead boys, i can totally see where you would get springstein out of that
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The Modern Dance is said to be essentially Laughner's record, even though he doesn't play on it (and "Humor Me," of course, is about him.) His solo stuff, though, never made much of an impression on me (although I did at one time cover "Rock It Down," embarrasingly.) He's kind of a folky and also kind of trad in a way that makes me sleepy but doesn't irritate me the way Patti Smith or The Boss do. I see Sweetie Pie's point. Beyond his historical significance as a mover in the Clevo scene, he doesn't appeal to me much either.
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Letter from Stiv from Miriam Linna's AMAZING blog Kicksville 66
(http://kicksville66.blogspot.com/search/label/Chapter%20%202)
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HOT FOR SOME HEAD, STIV
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I'd say he would've eventually sounded more like a bad Reed/Dylan amalgam than a crummy Springsteen copy.
I own the double LP and enjoy it. But, yeah, his is a large legend. The music doesn't quite live up to it.
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i guess you have to keep in mind, pre-internet he was one of the white whales, like, say, the chris bell album
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I dunno, man. The Tim/Kerr comp came out in '94. Forced Exposure put out the Cinderella Backstreet single a couple years before that. Who wants to listen to something called Cinderella Backstreet? Gross.
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File Under: DOESN'T SOUND HOW I THOUGHT IT WOULD
Tepid for Tuna,
Eric
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The Friction song that is on the Pere Ubu box set is awesome. It's live and has some pretty incredible guitar work on it, that gets real weird. I dunno, I think he was a crucial link in the pre-punk/punk era. Yeah, he had that 60s "trad" thing, but he was hearing some new shit that nobody else was. And he was living a totally fucked chaotic life. I think his early death was a pretty major loss for that era. Maybe he would've succumbed to some AOR dream, but I'd like to think not. Also, his music is as "Cleveland" as any band that's ever been from that fair city.
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I dunno, man. The Tim/Kerr comp came out in '94. Forced Exposure put out the Cinderella Backstreet single a couple years before that. Who wants to listen to something called Cinderella Backstreet? Gross.
Yeah but in the mid to late 80's it took quite some work to hear the stuff, even just the Rocket From the Tombs stuff. I think a lot of the early hype and appeal came from the opinion held by a lot of his contemporaries that the dude had the songwriting chops to "make it" had be been given the chance.
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yeah, that's more of what i'm talking about, you considered yourself lucky to get a third generation cassette. was talking to scott from the grifters about the chris bell tape, he said when ever he had people over he would put it in a differant cover, so that it wasn't stolen
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I don't really see the appeal of this guy. Rocket From the Tombs is cool. And the guitar playing on early Pere Ubu is great. I have the feeling though that if this guy had ever made it and gotten the chance to do music the way he really wanted, he would've ended up sounding like Jim Caroll or Springsteen.
Don't think Jim Carroll played (and recorded) a Robert Johnson song on his deathbed.
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yeah, that's more of what i'm talking about, you considered yourself lucky to get a third generation cassette. was talking to scott from the grifters about the chris bell tape, he said when ever he had people over he would put it in a differant cover, so that it wasn't stolen
We considered ourselves lucky to be able to hear someone else's third (to the third power) generation cassette of those jams.
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1st of 3 planned LP releases for 2011 in artwork design stage right now. Master done (as are the masters for the 2 other releases). No street dates yet, but it'll be this year:
--Ann Arbor Tapes
--Mr. Charlie (all stuff never before available)
--Fins (the 2 songs from the SOL single plus 6 additional songs from the same set)
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I like Jim Carroll, Bruce Springsteen, and Peter Laughner. Didn't you goad Stigliano with similar slights on Laughner, Mr. Mosescarryout? I think I remember reading that, and then when you finally met you guys rapped about you going to see the Laughner era Ubu and detente was achieved? I'll be buying these records regardless.
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I always thought his death was a crucial loss to that era, too. I don't know. I'll take bad Reed over bad Dylan.
1st of 3 planned LP releases for 2011 in artwork design stage right now. Master done (as are the masters for the 2 other releases). No street dates yet, but it'll be this year:
--Ann Arbor Tapes
--Mr. Charlie (all stuff never before available)
--Fins (the 2 songs from the SOL single plus 6 additional songs from the same set)
Thanks for update. Thought I read somewhere that Ann Arbor Tapes would be out in April. Glad it's moving along all the same.
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Awesome. Very exciting. Please don't make them look ugly.
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I remember discovering Peter Laughner from reading From the Velvets to the Voidoids. I always like his stuff, it's a nice combination of the blues, Dylan, Reed, and Beefheart.
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Soooooo, any word on these reissues???
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Soooooo, any word on these reissues???
Constantly working on it. No releases until we achieve some level of complete perfection. 2013, maybe. Thanks for asking...we find new materials almost every month.
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Soooooo, any word on these reissues???
Constantly working on it. No releases until we achieve some level of complete perfection. 2013, maybe. Thanks for asking...we find new materials almost every month.
Awesome. Good to know its still on the burner.
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Definitely.
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Soooooo, any word on these reissues???
Constantly working on it. No releases until we achieve some level of complete perfection. 2013, maybe. Thanks for asking...we find new materials almost every month.
Awesome. Good to know its still on the burner.
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I saw Mr Stress play at Wooster College in 75 or 74 and wonder if I saw the dude live,
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I saw Mr Stress play at Wooster College in 75 or 74 and wonder if I saw the dude live,
Peter played in Mr. Stress for just a short time in 1970/71, replacing Alan Greene.
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Soooooo, any word on these reissues???
Constantly working on it. No releases until we achieve some level of complete perfection. 2013, maybe. Thanks for asking...we find new materials almost every month.
any hints, mate?
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Lol
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1st of 3 planned LP releases for 2011 in artwork design stage right now. Master done (as are the masters for the 2 other releases). No street dates yet, but it'll be this year:
--Ann Arbor Tapes
--Mr. Charlie (all stuff never before available)
--Fins (the 2 songs from the SOL single plus 6 additional songs from the same set)
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/122172039577/peter-laughner-mr-charlie-1969-the-ann-arbor
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^ was gonna post that link.
That blog puts up some cool stuff.
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that peter laughner shit was probably the biggest musical disappointment of my 20s.. Spent so long looking for peter laughner recordings in my cultural backwater of a town....and then finally i track it down.. and it......sucked :(
good voice. boring ass songs.
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Just checked out the mr charlie stuff and it's pretty boring blues. The first song is pretty good but that's about it. There is some interesting lead playing that kinda reminds me of television but that'sit. This is one i'd been reading about for a while, so i'm shocked that it's so dissappointing. I'm scared to hear what the other solo set might sound like.
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that peter laughner shit was probably the biggest musical disappointment of my 20s.. Spent so long looking for peter laughner recordings in my cultural backwater of a town....and then finally i track it down.. and it......sucked :(
good voice. boring ass songs.
A literal handful or less of good songs in Reed / Dylan ass-suck vein, a whole lotta mythmaking elsewhere and for live / dead CLE most people are far better off revisiting, say, D.A. Levy (or Screamin' Jay or Albert Ayler or that "Sweet Sister Ray" boot or...) At the time, the Forced Exposure "Cinderella Backstreet" was an interesting single, sounds pretty "felt" in a style not then widely popular in the underground but the flip Velvets cover, and all of Laughner's other lame covers... ooooh, he's playing 'noisy' guitar on "Calvary Cross," crazy! Like Earl Hooker, Jeff Beck, Sonny Sharrock and a jillion others (inc. Richard Thompson) never existed.
Burroughs Jr. "Speed" kills "Amphetamine" in every possible way except ersatz 'rock anthem' also.
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Final Solution is the best song of all time. There are two eternal guitar solos and I assume Lester's son played one of them.
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Final Solution is the best song of all time. There are two eternal guitar solos and I assume Lester's son played one of them.
Have you even heard bad religions version, once you hear it I think you will agree that "the laugher" sucks
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Guns and Roses version of Aint It Fun. The guy from Hanoi Rocks joins Axl on vox. Awesome Slash solo.
Peter Who?
Lol
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You all need to Drano out your ear holes.
(Although Hanoi Rocks is more where I'm at at the moment)
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Swedish Bob hund did a fantastic version of "Final Solution" with lyrics changed to swedish " Et Fall och en lösning"
https://youtu.be/PDRYBlKm-BA (https://youtu.be/PDRYBlKm-BA)
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40 years later (!) and Peter is still getting praised/trashed on. I remember talking with someone about a decade ago who had nothing but vitriol toward Peter. The deification fuels the backlash, as well as the Forced Exposure single being the only relatively affordable/available piece of his music for purchase -- I've only seen one copy of Take the Guitar Player for a Ride (from a Cleveland transplant) and that was WAY after I heard it through a burned copy. It's great, but not worth investing months of your life tracking down. Yeah, he wasn't Albert Ayler. No one was. But Peter accomplished a lot by the time he checked out at 24. He was a big influence on me when I was a kid in my early 20s. I was impressed by his ability to bring Television to Cleveland, write for Creem and play with Rocket/Pere Ubu (come to think of it, Ross Johnson did something similar in Memphis minus the Television bit). If you think you're gonna get a back catalog that's something of the magnitude of, say, Wire's 154 (or even Colin Newman's A-Z) in lo-fi form with Peter's work, you're gonna be pretty disappointed. I always understood him as a talented guy from Cleveland who rubbed a few people the wrong way during his brief life (although Crocus told me he was the most talented person he knew at the time), made friends with Lester Bangs (who eulogized him at likely a very fragile point in his own life) and left a bunch of reel-to-reel recordings and a couple studio tracks (with Ubu) behind. The record should be listened to with proper context and realistic expectations in mind. Certainly nothing here no one on Termbo doesn't know. I happen to appreciate much of what Peter did. He motivated me a lot. It probably helps that I didn't know him.
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real question here is why hasn't smog veil repressed that original RFTT x2 LP? people are trying to sell that thing for 100+ bux
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Fire UK did a more recent edition.
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even that one is already going for 50 bux. this thing should be constantly in print like its dark side of the moon or something
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real question here is why hasn't smog veil repressed that original RFTT x2 LP? people are trying to sell that thing for 100+ bux
Readily available from Fire as mentioned previously.
We did 3 presses:
--#1: 1500 on black/white marble
--#2: 800 on red
--#3: 23 each autographed by surviving members and each record (all 26) a different color
Fire are good people, be sure to buy it from them.
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Readily available from Fire as mentioned previously.
Is it? I asked their U.S. distributor somewhat recently and was told it wasn't. But maybe that has subsequently changed, or it was just temporary and I misunderstood. And by available I mean available wholesale which is maybe a different subject.
Regardless, many of Fire's releases are just way too expensive for me to stock. It's sad.
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real question here is why hasn't smog veil repressed that original RFTT x2 LP? people are trying to sell that thing for 100+ bux
Readily available from Fire as mentioned previously.
We did 3 presses:
--#1: 1500 on black/white marble
--#2: 800 on red
--#3: 23 each autographed by surviving members and each record (all 26) a different color
Fire are good people, be sure to buy it from them.
yeah i own one of the red copies. i dont know anyone that has the fire pressing available, it is "out of stock" on their site.
(by the way mr smog veil big thanks for the reissue of "the new hope" comp, its essential, very sad more people dont know about it)
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real question here is why hasn't smog veil repressed that original RFTT x2 LP? people are trying to sell that thing for 100+ bux
Readily available from Fire as mentioned previously.
We did 3 presses:
--#1: 1500 on black/white marble
--#2: 800 on red
--#3: 23 each autographed by surviving members and each record (all 26) a different color
Fire are good people, be sure to buy it from them.
yeah i own one of the red copies. i dont know anyone that has the fire pressing available, it is "out of stock" on their site.
(by the way mr smog veil big thanks for the reissue of "the new hope" comp, its essential, very sad more people dont know about it)
For those of you that roll digitally, Hearpen has a bunch of 1st era RFTT downloads available here:
http://hearpen.com (http://hearpen.com)
Thanks for the New Hope mention. No repress on that for now. I did talk with Robert Griffin recently and he mentioned that the Spike In Vain release is in the works.
We do plan to repress The Guns retrospective sometime this year, small run...
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oh downloads are always nice, i just think its as essential as a "raw power" or what have you and should seemingly always be in press so people can get their hands on it without having to pay over 60 bux
on the other hand the prices on the new hope reissue are still fairly low fortunately. It would be really cool to see any of those bands get some material re-released of course! starvation army in particular. the offbeats comp you guys did is super excellent of course, my fav band on that comp. why do you hang out!
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http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/06/cleveland_legend_peter_laughne.html
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Some cool photos and clippings. Thanks for the link.
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Details are here! https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book
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Record One: 1972 (Fat City Jive)
Side One:
01. Hesitation Blues (Billy Smythe)
02. The Sidewalks of New York (Blake/Lawler arr: Laughner)
03. I’m Willing (Lowell George)
04. Solomon’s Mines (Peter Laughner)
05. Please Mrs. Henry (Bob Dylan)
06. Mean Ol’ Frisco (Arthur Crudup)
07. Drunkard’s Lament (Terry Hartman)
08. T For Texas (Jimmie Rodgers)
Side Two:
09. Good Time Music (John Sebastian)
10. Love Minus Zero (No Limit) (Bob Dylan)
11. I’m Waiting For The Man (Lou Reed)
12. Eyes Eyes (Michael Hurley)
13. Eyes of A New York Woman (Ogden/Pynchon)
14. It’s Saturday Night (Dance The Night Away) (Peter Laughner)
15. These Days (Jackson Brown)
16. Fat City Jive (Terry Hartman)
17. That’s The Story of My Life (Lou Reed)
1 – 8, 16: The Original Wolverines (Peter Laughner/Mike Sands/Pete Sinks), WMMS “Coffeebreak Concert”, September 20, 1972 (excerpts)
9 – 15, 17: Peter Laughner and Mike Sands, WMMS “Coffeebreak Concert”, November 15, 1972 (excerpts)
Record Two: 1973 – 1974 (One of The Boys)
Side One:
01. Rock & Roll (Lou Reed)
02. One of The Boys (Hunter/Ralphs)
03. All Along The Watchtower (Bob Dylan)
Side Two:
04. Heroin (Lou Reed)
05. I’m So Fucked Up (Peter Laughner)
06. White Light/White Heat (Lou Reed)/Call The Ambulances (Cynthia Black)
1, 3, 4, 6: Cinderella Backstreet, The Cellar, Sandusky, OH June 23, 1973
2: Cinderella Backstreet, JB’s, Kent, OH March 23, 1973
5: Cinderella’s Revenge, Viking Saloon, Cleveland May 11, 1974
Cinderella Backstreet: Peter Laughner, Cynthia Black, Rick Kalister, Albert Dennis, Scott Krauss. The soundman was Pat Ryan.
Cinderella’s Revenge: Peter Laughner, Susan Schmidt, Deborah Smith, Lachlan McIntosh, Eric Ritz. The soundman was Mark Price.
Record Three: 1974 – 1977 (Rock It Down)
Side One:
01. What Goes On (Lou Reed)
02. Ain’t It Fun (Laughner/O’Connor)
03. Amphetamine (Peter Laughner)
Side Two:
04. Prove It (Tom Verlaine)
05. Dear Richard (Peter Laughner)
06. Hideaway (Peter Laughner)
07. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry (Bob Dylan)
08. Pablo Picasso (Jonathan Richman)
09. Rock It Down (Peter Laughner)
1: Fins, block party, 2765 Euclid Hts Blvd., Coventry, Cleveland Hts July 27, 1974
2: Rocket From Tombs, The Agora, Cleveland February 10, 1975
3: Peter Laughner and Don Harvey, from “The Ann Arbor Tapes”, Ann Arbor, MI, February 1976
4 – 7: Friction, The Pirate’s Cove, Cleveland November 2, 1976
8: Friction, rehearsal, Cleveland October 31, 1976
9: Peter Laughner and Adele Bertei, “Secret Session”, unknown studio, Cleveland 1977 (circa March)
Fins: Peter Laughner, Robert Bensick, Deborah Smith, Lachlan McIntosh, Scott Krauss. The soundman was Mark Price.
Rocket From The Tombs: David “Crocus Behemoth” Thomas, Peter Laughner, Cheetah Chrome, Craig “Darwin Layne” Bell, Johnny “Madman” Madansky. Soundperson unknown.
Friction: Peter Laughner, Susan Schmidt, Deborah Smith, Anton Fier. The soundman was Pat Ryan.
Record Four: 1977 (Nocturnal Digressions)
Side One:
01. See No Evil (Tom Verlaine)
02. Come On In (Whatcha’ Doin’ On Them Stairs?) (Tom Verlaine)
03. Everything I Say Just Goes Right Through Her Heart (Peter Laughner/Adele Bertai)
04. The Next Room Of The Dream (Peter Laughner)
05. Do It (Jesse Winchester)
06. Slim Slow Slider (Van Morrison)
Side Two:
07. Blank Generation (Richard Hell)
08. Wild Horses (Jagger/Richards)
09. Isn’t That So? (Line of Least Resistance) (Jesse Winchester)
10. Me And The Devil Blues (Robert Johnson)
11. Pale Blue Eyes (Lou Reed)
12. (Going To) China (Peter Laughner)
13. Summertime Blues (Eddie Cochran)
Recorded by Peter Laughner solo at the Laughner residence, Bay Village, OH June 21, 1977
Record Five: 1973 – 1977 (Pledging My Time)
Side One:
01. Cinderella Backstreet (Peter Laughner)
02. Down At The Bar (Peter Laughner)
03. Baudelaire (Peter Laughner)
04. 32-20 Blues (Robert Johnson)
05. Rain On The City (Peter Laughner)
Side Two
06. “I Must Have Been Out Of My Mind” (Peter Laughner)
07. Pledging My Time (Bob Dylan)
08. (My Sister Sold Her Heart To) The Junk Man (Peter Laughner/Adele Bertai)
09. First Taste of Heartache (Peter Laughner)
10. Sylvia Plath (Peter Laughner)
11. Lullaby (Peter Laughner)
1: Peter Laughner, solo home recording, circa 1975
2: Peter Laughner and Deborah Smith, WMMS Coffeebreak Concert, October 11, 1974
3, 10, 11: Peter Laughner and Albert Dennis, 4-track recording, East Cleveland, 1976 (circa August/September)
4: Peter Laughner, solo home recording, Cleveland Hts., 1976 (September or October)
5: Peter Laughner and Wally Wefel, living room session, 1973 (circa November/December)
6: Peter Laughner, solo home recordings (mystery 4-track session), circa 1976
7: Peter Laughner, solo home recording, Cleveland Hts., December 15, 1976 (NB: This is the “unmixed” version)
8, 9: Peter Laughner, solo home recording (“New Songs”), Cleveland Hts., 1977 (circa January/February)
Pre-sale for the box set begins now.
TWO special pre-order only bonuses will be included and these bonuses will not be sold separately or in stores.
The first bonus is a 7" record sold ONLY during the pre-sale. The track list for the bonus 7" record is as follows:
Bonus 45: 1973 – 1976 (Easily Excited)
Side A:
01. Drugstore Cowboy/I’m So Bored (Bangs/Laughner)
02. Venus De Milo (Tom Verlaine)
Side B:
03. Heart (Section 2) (Michael Hronek)
04. Who’s Been Here? (Bo Carter)
05. Instrumental (fragment) (Peter Laughner)
01: Peter Laughner and Lester Bangs, from “Critic’s Choice”, Creem offices, Walled Lake, MI 1975 (circa February/March)
02: Peter Laughner and Don Harvey, from “The Ann Arbor Tapes”, Ann Arbor, MI, February 1976
03: Michael Hronek, Peter Laughner, Robert Bensick, Albert Dennis, and Scott Krauss, from “Fall 1974” tape, Cleveland 1974 (circa October) (NB: Laughner’s guitar work here is the origin of “Ain’t It Fun”)
04: Peter Laughner, David Krauss, Alan Echtler, Spa John, and Carl Woideck, Hillel House, CWRU, Cleveland February 10, 1973. Soundperson unknown.
05: Peter Laughner, solo home recording (mystery 4-track session), circa 1976
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Pumped.
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Also pumped.
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I was in, until I saw the shipping cost. I could probably drive to Cleveland and pick the damn thing up in person for less.
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will this be up for streaming anywhere?
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I was in, until I saw the shipping cost. I could probably drive to Cleveland and pick the damn thing up in person for less.
The box set weighs more than 8 pounds. The box we use to ship it in costs us $5.
$12 shipping in the USA doesn't cover all our costs.
I hate to have to charge an insane amount to ship overseas, $70. But postage is in excess of $65, plus $5 for the box. Plus, I have to pay the person who does the shipping. We lose money, even at that outrageous price.
Soundohm in Europe will have them at some point...
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will this be up for streaming anywhere?
Not until after the first of the year. Book will not be available as a download.
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I think the track listing that was posted above is wrong.
https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book (https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book)
Here's the actual track list including the bonus 7":
Record One: 1972 (Fat City Jive)
Side One:
01. Hesitation Blues (Billy Smythe)
02. The Sidewalks of New York (Blake/Lawler arr: Laughner)
03. Willin' (Lowell George)
04. Solomon’s Mines (Peter Laughner)
05. Please Mrs. Henry (Bob Dylan)
06. Mean Ol’ Frisco (Arthur “Big Boy” Crudup)
07. Drunkard’s Lament (Terry Hartman)
08. T For Texas (Jimmie Rodgers)
Side Two:
09. Good Time Music (John Sebastian)
10. Love Minus Zero (No Limit) (Bob Dylan)
11. I’m Waiting For The Man (Lou Reed)
12. Eyes Eyes (Michael Hurley)
13. The Eyes of A New York Woman (Ogden/Pynchon)
14. It’s Saturday Night (Dance The Night Away) (Peter Laughner)
15. These Days (Jackson Brown)
16. Fat City Jive (Terry Hartman)
17. That’s The Story of My Life (Lou Reed)
1 – 8, 16: The Original Wolverines (Peter Laughner, Mike Sands, Pete Sinks), WMMS “Coffeebreak Concert”, Cleveland, September 20, 1972 Host: Shauna Zurbrugg
9 – 15, 17: Peter Laughner and Mike Sands, WMMS “Coffeebreak Concert”, Cleveland, November 15, 1972 Host: Kid Leo
Record Two: 1973 – 1974 (One of The Boys)
Side One:
01. Rock & Roll (Lou Reed)
02. One of The Boys (Hunter/Ralphs)
03. All Along The Watchtower (Bob Dylan)
Side Two:
04. Heroin (Lou Reed)
05. I’m So Fucked Up (Peter Laughner)
06. White Light White Heat (Lou Reed) / Call The Ambulances (Cynthia Black)
1, 3, 4, 6: Cinderella Backstreet, The Cellar, Sandusky, June 24, 1973
2: Cinderella Backstreet, JB’s, Kent, March 23, 1973
5: Cinderella’s Revenge, Viking Saloon, Cleveland, May 11, 1974
Cinderella Backstreet: Cynthia Black, Albert Dennis, Rick Kalister, Scott Krauss, Peter Laughner.
Cinderella’s Revenge: Peter Laughner, Lachlan McIntosh, Eric Ritz, Susan Schmidt, Deborah Smith.
Record Three: 1973 – 1977 (Pledging My Time)
Side One:
01. Cinderella Backstreet (Peter Laughner)
02. Down At The Bar (Peter Laughner)
03. Baudelaire (Peter Laughner)
04. 32-20 Blues (Robert Johnson)
05. Rain On The City (Peter Laughner)
Side Two
06. “I Must Have Been Out Of My Mind” (Peter Laughner)
07. Pledging My Time (Bob Dylan)
08. (My Sister Sold Her Heart To) The Junk Man (Peter Laughner - Adele Bertei)
09. First Taste of Heartache (Peter Laughner)
10. Sylvia Plath (Peter Laughner)
11. Lullaby (Peter Laughner)
1: Peter Laughner, solo home recording, circa 1975
2: Peter Laughner and Deborah Smith, WMMS "Coffeebreak Concert", Cleveland, October 11, 1974
3, 10, 11: Peter Laughner and Albert Dennis, 4-track recording, East Cleveland, 1976 (circa August/September)
4: Peter Laughner, solo home recording, Cleveland Heights, 1976 (September or October)
5: Peter Laughner and Wally Wefel, home recording, 1973 (circa November/December)
6, 11: Peter Laughner, solo home 4-track recordings, circa 1976
7: Peter Laughner, solo home 4-track recording, Cleveland Heights, December 15, 1976
8, 9: Peter Laughner, from the “New Songs” tape, solo home recording, Cleveland Heights, 1977 (circa January/February)
Record Four: 1974 – 1977 (Rock It Down)
Side One:
01. What Goes On (Lou Reed)
02. Ain’t It Fun (Laughner/O’Connor)
03. Amphetamine (Peter Laughner)
Side Two:
04. Prove It (Tom Verlaine)
05. Dear Richard (Peter Laughner)
06. Hideaway (Peter Laughner)
07. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry (Bob Dylan)
08. Pablo Picasso (Jonathan Richman)
09. Rock It Down (Peter Laughner)
1: Fins, block party, Coventry, Cleveland Heights, July 27, 1974
2: Rocket From Tombs, The Agora, Cleveland, February 10, 1975
3: Peter Laughner and Don Harvey, from “The Ann Arbor Tapes”, Ann Arbor, February 1976
4, 8: Friction, rehearsal, Cleveland, October 31, 1976
5 – 7: Friction, The Pirate’s Cove, Cleveland, November 2, 1976
9: Peter Laughner and Adele Bertei, from the “Secret Session” tape, 4-track home recording, Cleveland Heights, 1977 (circa March)
Fins: Robert Bensick, Scott Krauss, Peter Laughner, Lachlan McIntosh, Deborah Smith.
Rocket From The Tombs: David “Crocus Behemoth” Thomas, Peter Laughner, Cheetah Chrome, Craig “Darwin Layne” Bell, Johnny “Madman” Madansky.
Friction: Anton Fier, Peter Laughner, Susan Schmidt, Deborah Smith.
Record Five: 1977 (Nocturnal Digressions)
Side One:
01. See No Evil (Tom Verlaine)
02. Come On In (Whatcha’ Doin’ On Them Stairs?) (Tom Verlaine)
03. Everything I Say Just Goes Right Through Her Heart (Peter Laughner - Adele Bertei)
04. The Next Room Of The Dream (Peter Laughner)
05. Do It (Jesse Winchester)
06. Slim Slow Slider (Van Morrison)
Side Two:
07. Blank Generation (Richard Hell)
08. Wild Horses (Jagger/Richards)
09. Isn’t That So? (Jesse Winchester)
10. Me And The Devil Blues (Robert Johnson)
11. Pale Blue Eyes (Lou Reed)
12. (Going To) China (Peter Laughner)
13. Summertime Blues (Eddie Cochran)
From "Nocturnal Digressions", solo home recording, Bay Village, June 21, 1977
The 7" record sold ONLY during the pre-sale. The track list for the bonus 7" record is as follows:
Bonus 45: 1973 – 1976 (Easily Excited)
Side A:
01. Drugstore Cowboy/I’m So Bored (Bangs/Laughner)
02. Venus De Milo (Tom Verlaine)
Side B:
03. Heart (Section 2) (Michael Hronek)
04. Who’s Been Here? (Bo Carter)
05. Instrumental (fragment) (Peter Laughner)
01: Peter Laughner and Lester Bangs, from “Critic’s Choice”, Creem offices, Walled Lake, MI 1975 (circa February/March)
02: Peter Laughner and Don Harvey, from “The Ann Arbor Tapes”, Ann Arbor, MI, February 1976
03: Michael Hronek, Peter Laughner, Robert Bensick, Albert Dennis, and Scott Krauss, from “Fall 1974” tape, Cleveland 1974 (circa October) (NB: Laughner’s guitar work here is the origin of “Ain’t It Fun”)
04: Peter Laughner, David Krauss, Alan Echtler, Spa John, and Carl Woideck, Hillel House, CWRU, Cleveland February 10, 1973. Soundperson unknown.
05: Peter Laughner, solo home recording (mystery 4-track session), circa 1976
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I love the fact that you made this box look like a release on the Mosaic Records label (brilliant touch.)
Thanks!
Johnny Dromette did the box and LP/CD covers. Ron Kretsch did the book.
There one little fact that helps explain why this took so long to get done: all told, between the estate, music collaborators, photographers, reprint licensors, and songwriters who are entitled to a mechanical, there is about 50 people/organization/estates that had to sign off on the license. At least one of those persons, we didn't even have a name, just a nickname (and, that person should be the featured character if anyone ever does a book/project about the Hessler Street Fair).
pressing plant
Furnace. We always use them.
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Here's our notes on the bonus 7" sold only to Peter Laughner box set pre-orders:
https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book (https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book)
Bonus 45: 1973 – 1976 (Easily Excited)
Side A:
01. Drugstore Cowboy/I’m So Fuckin' Bored (Bangs/Laughner)
02. Venus De Milo (Tom Verlaine)
Side B:
03. Heart (Section 2) (Michael Hronek)
04. Who’s Been Here? (Bo Carter)
05. Instrumental (fragment) (Peter Laughner)
01: Peter Laughner and Lester Bangs, from the “Critic’s Choice” tape, Creem offices, Walled Lake, 1975 (circa February/March)
02: Peter Laughner and Don Harvey, from “The Ann Arbor Tapes”, Ann Arbor, February 1976
03: Michael Hronek, Robert Bensick, Albert Dennis, Scott Krauss, and Peter Laughner, from the “Fall 1974” tape, Cleveland, 1974 (circa October)
04: Peter Laughner, Alan Echtler, Spa John, David Krauss, and Carl Woideck, Hillel House, CWRU, Cleveland, February 10, 1973.
05: Peter Laughner, solo home 4-track recording, circa 1976
01. Drugstore Cowboy/I'm So Fuckin' Bored: from “Critic’s Choice”, Peter Laughner and Lester Bangs, Creem offices, Walled Lake, 1975 (circa February/March)
This medley is an excerpt of one of several sessions that Peter did with Lester Bangs, the legendary music critic who was writing mainly for Creem at this time. Peter later performed "I'm So Fuckin' Bored" solo at one of his Bottleworks shows in early 1976; in the intro to that performance, he confirmed that the shout out in the middle of the song is to Creem editor Jaan Uhelszki.
Regarding the origin of the title "Critics’ Choice", Jane Scott reported in the Plain Dealer on April 11, 1975 that “WMMS has a tape of Rocket (From the Tombs') guitar player Peter Laughner playing and singing with Creem writer Lester Bangs. Peter also writes for Creem. ‘From our forthcoming album, “Critics’ Choice,”’ jokes Laughner.”
02. Venus De Milo: from “The Ann Arbor Tapes”, Peter Laughner and Don Harvey, Ann Arbor, February 1976
With strong support from Peter's former Mr. Charlie bandmate Don Harvey on pump organ, Peter turns in a loving and devoted cover of this emblematic Tom Verlaine song.
03. Heart (Section 2): from “Fall 1974” tape, Cleveland, 1974 (circa October). Michael Hronek, Peter Laughner, Robert Bensick, Albert Dennis, Scott Krauss. This recording comes from Fender Rhodes player Michael Hronek's "Fall 1974" tape for which he enlisted the help of his friends Peter, Robert Bensick, Albert Dennis, and Scott Krauss. Though the session was focused solely on Hronek's original jazz-fusion compositions, the guitar parts Peter came up with for "Heart" reveal themselves to be the lead riffs (albeit in embryonic form) that he would play over Cheetah Chrome's music on the RFTT song “Ain’t It Fun".
04. Who’s Been Here?: Peter Laughner with David Krauss, Alan Eckler, Spa John, and Carl Woideck, Hillel House, Case Western Reserve University (CWRU), Cleveland, February 10, 1973. This rendition of the Mississippi/Tennessee bluesman Bo Carter song is the only surviving recording from a solo set Peter did opening for Tiny Alice at CWRU. He also quotes the lyrics of "Alabama Bound", best known in its 1940 version by Leadbelly. Peter is joined on this performance by most of the then-version of Tiny Alice including his frequent collaborator and harmonica player David Krauss.
05. Instrumental (fragment): Peter Laughner, solo home 4-track recording, circa 1976. This brief multi-tracked guitar instrumental shows a side of Peter that indicates not only his continued embrace of a broad range of styles but also another possibility for the direction his music might have taken.
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Sorry if this is clearly stated somewhere and I’m just missing it, but does the presale go all the way to August or does it end sometime before that?
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Sorry if this is clearly stated somewhere and I’m just missing it, but does the presale go all the way to August or does it end sometime before that?
Ends a week or 2 before the street date and while we haven't announced the date yet, I'm fairly certain that will be at the end of July or sometime during the 1st 2 weeks of August OR until the supply of 7"s runs out (we pressed 1000 7"s and getting low).
All book proofs now approved, just awaiting final printing and assembly.
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Peter Laughner box set in stores August 2, 2019.
Pre-sale w/bonus 7" ends June 16, 2019. The bonus 7" will only be sold during the pre-sale.
https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book (https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book)
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Appreciate the hard work, just sent dough for mine.
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Peter Laughner box set in stores August 2, 2019.
Pre-sale w/bonus 7" ends June 16, 2019. The bonus 7" will only be sold during the pre-sale.
https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book (https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book)
The bonus 7’’ is included in the $120 preorder price, right?
Not an additional add-on item
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Peter Laughner box set in stores August 2, 2019.
Pre-sale w/bonus 7" ends June 16, 2019. The bonus 7" will only be sold during the pre-sale.
https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book (https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book)
The bonus 7’’ is included in the $120 preorder price, right?
Not an additional add-on item
Bonus 7" is included with both the CD box and LP box pre-orders and ships with the box set.
PRE-SALE ENDS JUNE 16, 2019. The 7" will NOT be available after that date.
There will be a very small supply of box sets with the bonus 7" at a few shops: Mind's Eye (Cle), Wex Center book store in Columbus, Blue Arrow (Cle)...emphasis on the word small and once these are gone, there will not be a restock with the bonus 7".
BTW, 1 pressing only on the box set and as of today, many are spoken for.
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I can’t wait to finally get a copy of this - are preorders are shipping before the August street date or around the same time?
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I can’t wait to finally get a copy of this - are preorders are shipping before the August street date or around the same time?
Before for sure.
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If you've already ordered, thank you! If not, last chance this weekend to grab the Peter Laughner box set with the bonus 7". Pre-sale ends at the end of the day, Sunday, June 16, 2019. While you'll still be able to buy the set after 6/16, you must order by the end of the day this Sunday to receive the bonus 7".
In store date is August 2, 2019. A couple Northeast Ohio shops will have the box set with the bonus 7", but they all have very limited supplies: Mind's Eye, Blue Arrow, and Square Records. Total Punk will also have a couple.
Details and song streams are here:
https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book?fbclid=IwAR32cIpPwbjpVKdkEOTiJ1WlgfV8-1VVSPy-zTe1cRjjvkdT6kVSskwFELs (https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book?fbclid=IwAR32cIpPwbjpVKdkEOTiJ1WlgfV8-1VVSPy-zTe1cRjjvkdT6kVSskwFELs)
Thanks again for your patience. Pre-orders will ship by the end of July.
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Did this start shipping, saw a photo a certain someone posted?
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Did this start shipping, saw a photo a certain someone posted?
You may have seen a photo of a promo version, but the retail version has not yet shipped. Hope to update by the end of this week.
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Haha, no worries, just got me excited, wasn’t expecting it for awhile.
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Books are in, assembly underway...
https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book (https://www.smogveil.com/collections/frontpage/products/peter-laughner-box-set-5-lps-plus-book)
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Have the preorders started shipping yet?
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Looks like July 18.
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Shipping has begun...
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Are you emailing folks the tracking numbers?
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If you ordered on or before June 25, email me for the tracking number (just reply to the order confirmation to get to me)...I have them now from the pressing plant. Orders after June 25 went out from our warehouse and you will be auto-emailed.