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Terminal Boardumb => Music Shit => Pop Punk => Topic started by: erickelric on March 19, 2011, 10:36:18 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRmLoIsGq2A&feature=player_embedded#at=16
Way to clock that girl, you douche-nozzle.
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1. Anyone showing up to see Ben Weasel do anything in 2011 deserves to get slugged.
2. They should have let her at him. She looks like she could beat him down. She certainly seemed to want to.
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ugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbk8cMoGY1g&feature=related
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HAHAHAH
Did anyone ever thing he is not a little bitch??
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I think either my 6yr old or 9 yr old could take him. Doesn't throw a very good punch does he?
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1. Anyone showing up to see Ben Weasel do anything in the history of the world deserves to get slugged.
slight edit
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ugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbk8cMoGY1g&feature=related
Carson Daly was pissed he had to wait in line for beer.
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The title of this thread is not very news worthy....
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Ben Weasel AND Carson Daly united at long last!
(http://www.dancevibes.be/images/90sparty.jpg)
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I have to steal RJ's line here:
Crotchety old retard socks shitpunk slut, news at 11:00
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ugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbk8cMoGY1g&feature=related
Carson Daly was pissed he had to wait in line for beer.
14 bucks! Wahh!!!
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I think either my 6yr old or 9 yr old could take him. Doesn't throw a very good punch does he?
Must have learned how to fight from the youtube bully.
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POP ;PUNK
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SCREECHING WEASEL RULES
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SCREECHING WEASEL RULES
Ben Foster however, is old.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRmLoIsGq2A&feature=player_embedded#at=16
Way to clock that girl, you douche-nozzle.
BEST VIDEO COMMENT: This is definitely one way to make enemies and irritate people.
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I'm starting to think this might have all been staged. It was a Fat showcase and Fat Mike did that whole Cokie the Clown thing last year. Either that, or Ben Weasel punches like a girl.
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This guy's music always sucked and I don't know much about him and don't care much anyways. He had a coupla Wisconsin dudes backing him, and I feel sorry for those guys having to deal with this stupid shit. Blah.
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I'd love to see the BCO thread about this....Actually, no I wouldn't...
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I have to steal RJ's line here:
Crotchety old retard socks shitpunk slut, news at 11:00
"it's ok if a guy hits a girl as long as he punches like a woman. "
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i had to google who ben weasel was
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I'd love to see the BCO thread about this....Actually, no I wouldn't...
It's up there. I actually listened to Bogada x3 a bunch when I was a teenager, but I always thought the cult around the band was retarded. Stupid band. I really don't see what the problem here is though. If it was a dude he hit nobody would care. That's what you get when you attack someone, you get punched in return. The douchebag should get a lifetime achievement award simply for openly clocking a bitch in the face on video.
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i had to google who ben weasel was
no you didnt. please stop.
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there is a Weasel Fest?? hahahahah
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My next door neighbor Drew is standing with his guitar chewing gum in the background. I think it's all WI at this point (including Ben), not sure though. Liked Boogada and a few later tunes at the time, have no interest one way or another in this prolonged money grab beyond Drew/Justin and other friends assisting. I do know that this is the most interesting thing he's done in years.
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I can't really get into any of that 90's pop punk stuff anymore except for the Queers, who still sound great to me. Even the stuff without Wimpy.
always thought of the Queers (sans Wimpy) as a poor mans screeching weasal.
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That's what you get when you attack someone,
Throwing ice at a "punk" show is "attacking" someone?
I'm sure he'll blame his agoraphobia. "I was having a panic attack!"
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this guy quit playing shows in the mid 90s, quit touring, etc when he was able to float on his band name & logo alone.... most likely it was for the better.
also, kind of agree on the 'staged' thing. after having one record label reissue his back catalog, having it recalled the same year, giving it to another label, having it recalled from them, he finally landed back on fat wreck chords who coincidentally just last tuesday released the first new screeching weasel album in eleven years (who gives a shit??), but also the same head honcho who brought us the 'cokie the clown incident' (as mentioned) at last years FAT sxsw showcase.... so yes, it does seem possibly fake. he is catching a lot of shit for this of course, however, being THAT HATED might not be so bad for the guy who begrudingly set up a 'tour' (6 cities? 7? 8?) and a three day 'fest' in his bands original hometown area.... he wanted out of the playing shows thing way back in the 90s as mentioned, and has only done a handful of shows in the past 15 years as screeching weasel. being this hated would be an easy route to go back into his live show retirement - this time forever?
we'll see i guess...
i do feel slightly embarrassed that i even know this much about it
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If the intention is to piss someone off, yeah.
You know what to expect when you throw shit at someone. People don't dig that. You want me to throw shit at you when you're behind the bar? I know plenty of people who would punch someone out for throwing ANYTHING at them when they're trying to work, unless they were their friend and it was understood that it was playful.
You don't throw shit at people in an attempt to piss them off, and then not expect them to respond violently.
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One of my bands was supposed to play with Screeching Weasel in May, but because we're PC faggots or something we dropped off the show. For what it's worth, Ben emailed us today saying he respected our decision to drop off of the show and apologized to us.
He also posted this on his blog today:
I want to apologize to both the club owner and audience member involved for my actions during our show at SXSW on Friday night. While their actions were outside of my control, my regretful reaction is wholly my responsibility. Whatever my feelings are about fans crossing the line like that, I wish I could have that moment back and deal with it in the same spirit as I did the preceding 60 minutes. Since I can?t, an apology is all I?ve got and I sincerely hope those people will accept it. Up front, I wish to say that I am sorry to the fan and any others who were involved. As a husband, father, and a musician on the public stage, I understand that it is my duty to always take responsibility for my actions in a socially acceptable way, and most especially in the face of confrontation.
I want to apologize to the San Antonio fans, also, for having to cancel that show. I hope we can make it up down the road. I?ve obviously already talked to my band about it but I also want to publicly apologize for putting them in a bad position, as well as my manager, booking agent, label, and the support bands. My actions were unprofessional and unfair to the people I work with.
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You can do what you like, I'm not calling you a PC faggot, but you did write an article in your zine about thirteen years ago that decried the fact that I punched and removed from a show (once, but I guess that was enough since he had to eat through a straw for quite a while) Nate the Nazi after he was attacking my friends, seig heiling the band, and told a woman I cared quite a bit about that he was going to kick her "in the cunt" because she told him to get the hell out of there.
The band, venue owner and the vast majority of the audience supported my actions.
Different people handle things differently. I'm not making a value judgment over whether dealing with something, or letting bad/stupid shit happen is better. People are free to turn the other cheek if that's their prerogative.
I'm just saying, the dude did nothing wrong.
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Well, I guess he made a ton of really shitty music. That was pretty wrong.
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If the intention is to piss someone off, yeah.
You know what to expect when you throw shit at someone. People don't dig that. You want me to throw shit at you when you're behind the bar? I know plenty of people who would punch someone out for throwing ANYTHING at them when they're trying to work, unless they were their friend and it was understood that it was playful.
You don't throw shit at people in an attempt to piss them off, and then not expect them to respond violently.
I guess. I like when people throw shit at me when I'm playing, and I throw shit at people. It's, uh, punk. I mean, don't throw a fucking brick at me, but I can deal w/ ice, cans, spit, beer, maybe even a bottle as long as it ain't in the temple. And if someone hits back, fine, that's as valid as a response as any. But...
You don't think this guy's an asshole for jumping off stage to clock a chick? Who cares if she "deserved" it? Dude is a bitch and his band fucking sucks. That's all. The end.
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I know plenty of people who would punch someone out for throwing ANYTHING at them when they're trying to work
Shleebz
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People should be getting upset over the fact that Ben Weasel is a pussy, and makes horrible music.
I can deal with some beer flying, but anyone spits on me, under any circumstances and they're in trouble.
While it may be punk to let people throw shit at you, because you're too punk too care. It's also just as punk to clock a member of the opposite sex in the face, on camera, because you're too punk to care.
This little bitch is fuckin' apologizing for his actions though, and there lies the problem.
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Well, it's not that I'm too punk to care, I just think that in the right situation it can be fun. Y'know, like the stars are aligned just so, and all that. I seem to recall you dumping a pint of beer on me in some damp basement. That's good clean fun.
But I think we can agree on the real point of this thread: Ben Weasel sucks.
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You can do what you like, I'm not calling you a PC faggot, but you did write an article in your zine about thirteen years ago that decried the fact that I punched and removed from a show (once, but I guess that was enough since he had to eat through a straw for quite a while) Nate the Nazi after he was attacking my friends, seig heiling the band, and told a woman I cared quite a bit about that he was going to kick her "in the cunt" because she told him to get the hell out of there.
The band, venue owner and the vast majority of the audience supported my actions.
Different people handle things differently. I'm not making a value judgment over whether dealing with something, or letting bad/stupid shit happen is better. People are free to turn the other cheek if that's their prerogative.
I'm just saying, the dude did nothing wrong.
I really never actually tried to diss you in my 'zine (If I remember correctly). I was a pretty bad writer 13 years ago, and it might have come across that way, but I swear that wasn't my intentions. To be honest, I don't even remember what the fuck I wrote and I have no intention of ever reading that piece again. If you remember the whole piece was kind of detailing the 24 hours leading up to finding my mom's dead body inside of my house and written a few hours after the incident. Anything that happened in Green Bay the night before was shitty details trying to convey whatever weird shit was happening at the time. Like I said, then I couldn't write for shit (I can't really now), I was coming out of a pretty bad alcoholic/drugged out phase, and going into an equally bad Jesus phase. I kind of wish there was a lot less documentation of that period of my life, 'cause to be totally honest it's embarrassing as fuck.
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Nothing like a 13 year old beef.
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One year at my birthday show, some dude in a band I don't even remember the name of flipped out on Casey Strong Come On for throwing an empty pack of cigarettes at him while they were playing an Oblivions cover. It was fucking silly as shit.
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Nothing like a 13 year old beef.
That's what my priest said.
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HEYYYOOOOOO
this thread rules
GOOGLE Ben Weasel
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Well, don't feel too bad, the internet constantly preserves my embarrassing shit and it's not just a phase for me. All I remember about that issue was that there was a religious undertone and stuff about how you can't use violence to confront violence at shows, using the above mentioned thing as an example. I had two other friends of mine at that show who were pissed about what I did. They came up to me and told me how I was no better than him for throwing him out. The thing is, Tom used to tell me stuff like "one thing I like about putting on hardcore shows is I don't have to spend money on security, because you guys police your scene yourselves."
Back in the day, when I was a pacifist, I used to go up to people being violent at shows and I would give them hugs and tell them "It's about fun, not violence." The last time I did that, dude attacked me.
I have no problem with people choosing their battles, but every time something like this happens and people get all upset cause a dude hit a woman I think about how patronizing it is to punk chicks everywhere. I'm sure either of these chicks could have fucked dude up bad if people weren't running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Trust me, I'm a big guy and I've gotten fucked up by women a few times. Women aren't inherently helpless creatures, they're just trained to be that way by people who have some idealized vision of women.
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You know what was cool? When Schultz threw a beer bottle at the Fatals and cut dude open bad and then they wouldn't play in WI as a result. I didn't even see it happen, but I know it's cool.
I miss violence at punk shows. It made them exciting.
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Bitches be wildin'
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One year at my birthday show, some dude in a band I don't even remember the name of flipped out on Casey Strong Come On for throwing an empty pack of cigarettes at him while they were playing an Oblivions cover. It was fucking silly as shit.
The Black Hats said "this one is for the Strong Come Ons" and Casey was outside (wasted), so I went up the stairs and told him to come down. He fell down the stairs, got up and after a minute or so threw whatever it was at the singer. It hit him, he stopped the song and whined like a baby until Casey raised his hand and said "it was me."
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That is quite hilarious, i’m actually reading Cheetah Chrome’s book and i just went through the part where they are playing in a club and some people in the crowd are throwing ice at the band. The band stop playing and left backstage…Stiv comes back alone upfront and tell people that if they continue to do so, they will stop the gig. Then Cheetah goes in the crowd, without Stiv noticing, grab a bucket full of ice at the bar and throw ice chunks at Stiv and tell him to shut the fuck off and go home. The poor guy doesn’t know his buddy his laughing his ass off at him! I taught that was pretty funny when I just saw that whole Ben Weasel situation…
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longer version with the banter that led up to it and a jesus awful version of "Cool Kids":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOXuvbT0eUo
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The Black Hats said "this one is for the Strong Come Ons" and Casey was outside (wasted), so I went up the stairs and told him to come down. He fell down the stairs, got up and after a minute or so threw whatever it was at the singer. It hit him, he stopped the song and whined like a baby until Casey raised his hand and said "it was me."
I remember the dude was like, "Who the fuck are you?" and Casey said, "I'm Casey from the Strong Come Ons." Then the dude was like, "Ooh! Casey from the Strong Come Ons. You think you're a fucking rock star or something?" I think he called him a fat ass a couple of times before they packed up their stuff and left.
We played with those dudes again at the Nikki Sudden show. They played for like an hour even though we told them 30 minutes. As a result we only got to play two of our own songs before Nikki came out.
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friend of a friend on FB:
"SW has been my absolute favorite band for 15 years now but no more. It wasn't just the hitting, it was also bragging about money (telling SW fans that you usually make $25k for a show and that you made "considerably more" than $40k for Riot Fest is dumb. shove all your money up your ass Ben Weasel), also talking shit about the opening bands, his label, his label mates, claiming that signing SW single-handedly "saved" Fat Records, disrespecting his fans in about 100 different ways, calling a girl a "skanky whore" and about a dozen things I won't even go into. Ben Weasel is a hypocritical bitter old sexist asshole who is all about money and all of the most un-pock rock ideals humanly possible. He needs to go back to his farm and shut the fuck up."
Sounds like a great guy.
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$25k a show!
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$25k a show!
i dont think ive ever cleared 25k in a year working. especially not now with the store...jesus.
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He's never cleared 25k playing a show either.
EDIT: Fuck...maybe??? Do high school kids still listen to SW? I'm operating under the assumption that every current SW fan is my age.
EDIT: Yeah...no way.
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Yeah, over 40 grand for Riot Fest? Is that shitpile that big? And how much are tickets?
How much is Screeching Weasel fleecing "the kids" for thee days??
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LOL at people just now realizing this douche sucks.
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Yeah, over 40 grand for Riot Fest? Is that shitpile that big? And how much are tickets?
Impossible. You would need to draw 1000 people at $40 a pop and that is not paying the venue or other bands, just SW. Ben Weasel is not only a WOMAN BEATER but he is also a LIAR.
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The Facebook CEO bought a 1 ticket @ $40,000.
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Oh shit: wonder if this will still happen
WEASEL FEST in Chicago
May 27, 2011
Screeching Weasel
Teenage Bottlerocket
Zatopeks
Shot Baker
Chinese Telephones
Jetty Boys
May 28, 2011
The Riverdales
Chixdiggit
Kepi Ghoulie
Kurt Baker
Visitors
Sugar Stems
May 29, 2011
Screeching Weasel
The Queers
The Manges
The Soviettes
Toys That Kill
(TBA)
The Steve Adamyk Band
Ben stands to make a minimum of $100,000 this weekend.
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(TBA) = White Hole
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Fuck, is that real?
Who wants to dedicate their life to my rock n' roll jihad? I'll make sure your surviving loved ones are taken care of.
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Oh shit: wonder if this will still happen
WEASEL FEST in Chicago
May 27, 2011
Screeching Weasel
Teenage Bottlerocket
Zatopeks
Shot Baker
Chinese Telephones
Jetty Boys
May 28, 2011
The Riverdales
Chixdiggit
Kepi Ghoulie
Kurt Baker
Visitors
Sugar Stems
May 29, 2011
Screeching Weasel
The Queers
The Manges
The Soviettes
Toys That Kill
(TBA)
The Steve Adamyk Band
Ben stands to make a minimum of $100,000 this weekend.
That was the show that I was talking about that we dropped off of. I know that Soviettes at least dropped off as well. Same weekend as the Blackout.
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I miss violence at punk shows. It made them exciting.
this
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Same weekend as the Blackout.
RUMBLE!!!
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Apparently Teenage Bottlerocket also dropped off of the show. I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch more groups did the same.
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Pink Reason will gladly play, if we can have a chunk of that mega-loot.
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Pink Reason will gladly play, if we can have a chunk of that mega-loot.
You don't get $25,000 a show by paying your opening bands.
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It would actually be pretty fucking awesome to see Pink Reason playing that show in front of all those pop punk dorks. Take freaking out the squares to a whole new level.
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"Pink Reason's set included spirited Beatnik Termites and Vindictives covers. The set culminated with Kevy Failure throwing a pinata filled with Cherry Coke and Twizzlers at the crowd. Just one of the many tasty treats offered up at Weasel Fest 2011."
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LOL
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Pop-Punk Violence.
Open letter to Screeching Ben Weasel:
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Look, mang, you can't go around treating the public like it's your own personal pinata. Sooner or later, the public will burst and shower you with semen.
Unless it's a lady pinata, in which case, you got nothing to lose.
Signd,
Pop-PUnk
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Yeah, over 40 grand for Riot Fest? Is that shitpile that big? And how much are tickets?
How much is Screeching Weasel fleecing "the kids" for thee days??
i dicked myself over and accidentally paid for the whole weekend so i could see dead milkmen twice, butthole surfers and apocalypse hoboken. it cost me a lot of money... over 100 bucks. they also had this thing where even if you had the bracelet you paid over 100 for, two of the shows i was going to i might not have been able to get in unless i showed up early enough... if the did other tix sales that would have filled the capacity. it was stupid. riot fest is stupid. i did NOT go on the last day when screeching weasel played (alkaline trio teenage fans were there waiting at the congress theater at like 8 am or earlier.. for a 6 pm show) and i kinda wanted to see them cuz i used to be into them somewhat when i was a teenager, but yeah, whatever.
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POCK ROCK
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ALSO: SXSW must have really sucked dick this year if Ben Weasel punching a girl was the most exciting thing that happened.
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Yeah, over 40 grand for Riot Fest? Is that shitpile that big? And how much are tickets?
Impossible. You would need to draw 1000 people at $40 a pop and that is not paying the venue or other bands, just SW. Ben Weasel is not only a WOMAN BEATER but he is also a LIAR.
I just had to check into the 40k claim, not true. The amount has a some zeros added at the end.
too many kids in Chicago eat this shit up, somebody has to let them know that 1986-1996 is not a constant loop in time
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always thought of the Queers (sans Wimpy) as a poor mans screeching weasal.
I would disagree. I guess it's the influence of the Beach Boys and 60's bubblegum on the Queers that really separates the two for me. Also the fact that they always kept the songwriting as bare essentialy simple as possible -- like Joey Levine. The Queers would never try to write a song like "Science of Myth" or whatever.
And of course, I only like the post-Wimpy stuff up to a certain point.
cosigned.
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oh yeah, forgot to mention, this stupid shit headlined the fucking news in austin, they covered it even before they mentioned libya... that and a riot at a free strokes concert...
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danny vapid and the other new transplants who were going under the name 'screeching weasel' have QUIT THE BAND. temporarily, at least. pussies.
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saw that, but I doubt it was this one incident that precipitated it. My guess is it is simply the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Being in a band is supposed to be fun, if they felt the drama was overshadowing the fun of playing then good for them, they should quit. The whole band choosing to quit simultaneously is not exactly a vote of confidence, and noone knows better than them whether it was worth it to continue or not, or what went on behind the scenes. I say good for them.
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whatever, I am sure dj prick would still give them a gig...
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saw that, but I doubt it was this one incident that precipitated it. My guess is it is simply the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. Being in a band is supposed to be fun, if they felt the drama was overshadowing the fun of playing then good for them, they should quit. The whole band choosing to quit simultaneously is not exactly a vote of confidence, and noone knows better than them whether it was worth it to continue or not, or what went on behind the scenes. I say good for them.
yeah i know. the thing i am finding the funniest about this 'situation' is that ben weasel has been an KNOWN AND HATED ASSHOLE for about twenty goddamn years now.... younger kids who weren't around when screeching weasel hit that 'live retirement' might not know this, all the stories about every single prick like thing ben weasel did to their friend or their friends friends are not urban legends, they are true..... growing up in the chicagoland area and getting into punk in the mid 90s (where plenty of the bands i was seeing used to be contemporaries of his, or at least around him during the macgregors days) i was probably a lot more exposed to this shit.
anyways. the new guys, whatever.. the didn't wanna be in the band with this huge ego prick shithead who hit some girls when he flipped out in public. vapid i would have at least thought was used to it, so yeah, camels back broken. i'm sure what little money ben was probably paying them (out of his "$250,000" net shows) was probably the only incentive to do the record/tour/whatever... oh well. at this point if weasel fest wasn't cancelled and he put together a new band i think i would kind of actually like to see at least one of the nights just based on the idea of what kind of backlash there would be...
basically his routine up until the punches (as far as i have gathered/seen on youtube) seemed very reminiscent of lou reed's 'take no prisoners' live album as opposed to the typical gg allin everyone is my enemy angle... it seemed like comedy. fairly good comedy at that. it is unfortunate that it went over the line, but whatever.
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They've been doing SW/Riverdales shows (approx) monthly for some time now (year or two?). Fly out to TX and play 2/3 cities, next month FL, etc.
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They've been doing SW/Riverdales shows (approx) monthly for some time now (year or two?). Fly out to TX and play 2/3 cities, next month FL, etc.
so wait, thought someone just said the band quit? not that i give a cluck.
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They've been doing SW/Riverdales shows (approx) monthly for some time now (year or two?). Fly out to TX and play 2/3 cities, next month FL, etc.
so wait, thought someone just said the band quit? not that i give a cluck.
they just coudnt take all this termbo scrutany
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oh wait i see, not "next month FL" meaning "april 2011 FL," but the next month after the "2/3 days in TX" example.
got that?
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everyone is perfect 'cept for ben weasel
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Where's Stevie Ray Vaughn at?
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dead and in hell.
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I think either my 6yr old or 9 yr old could take him. Doesn't throw a very good punch does he?
First one looks like he's throwing a curveball. Other two look like the WWF.
I agree with Kevin -- COLD COCK A HOE
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from the SW site:
Well, well, well.
Having spent the past 4 1/2 months in Hyannis (only rubes call it ?Hyannis Port?) with limited Internet access I haven?t been getting the full picture of what?s transpired behind my resting back. But man does not live by clamming, parasailing and lovemaking on the beach in the soft glow of the moonlight alone, and business beckons. Oh, how it beckons!
A quick perusal of the WWW turns up the interesting fact that M. Vapid, late of Screeching Weasel, has been scampering around granting interviews to naive zinesters implying that he quit the band out of shame and embarrassment over the SXSW incident. Now, believe it or not, gang, I happened to be there in Austin in what passed for a green room after we were escorted off stage by a kind and gentle bouncer, and I can tell you this: the drummer (come on, do you need his name? Like you even remember it!) was sitting around slapping his thighs, drum-like; the guitarist was saying it was the worst show he?d ever played because he broke a couple of strings and his guitar strap kept falling off; the bassist was shuffling around silently like Rain Man with 5 minutes to go until Wapner; and Sir Vapid III was wringing his hands, mumbling, ?Where?s my messenger bag? Has anybody seen my messenger bag? I can?t find my messenger bag! Oh where, oh where could my messenger bag be?? The events that had just occurred on stage were not of the slightest concern to these purportedly sensitive and easily mortified gents. In case you miss my meaning, they couldn?t have fucking cared less.
Now, as I am as honest and trustworthy as the day is long, I will admit that the following morning, I found Vapid, along with the drummer and guitarist, in their hotel room, flustered and ashen-faced. In short, gang, they were scared. And that scared me, because while controversy is nothing new in the choppy waters of my career, bitter experience has shown me that when the crew starts panicking you?d better start lowering the lifeboats. They?d watched the label employees flip their lids the night before, and they?d looked on the Internet and had seen which way the wind was blowing. And it was no gentle breeze that was caressing your narrator?s beautiful brunette mane; it was a fetid stench cloud pouring down pure bile on yours truly. But as rattled as they were, they insisted they were going to stay the course. I even called the bassist from the airport and he assured me it was no big deal. ?I?m 100% on board,? he said.
Vapid was mostly silent during our morning meeting, but before we adjourned, he piped up to declare, ?I think it?s wrong to hit people.? Apparently he thinks it?s gloriously right to kick people 15 or 20 times in the kidneys when they?re already down and being hit by two other guys, or at least he did when a fan attacked me back in 1995, but I suppose ?that?s different,? as people always seem to say when they?re caught talking brazenly hypocritical shit, and in any case, true to his word, every other time I got involved in a physical confrontation over the years, Vapid took off in the other direction so quick he left skid marks; I?ve only ever seen him move faster when offered a free meal. Still, I mused to myself, this was awfully funny talk coming from a guy who less than three months earlier had solemnly informed me, upon learning that you can?t actually successfully sue a guy for talking smack about you on the Internet, that he?d decided instead to kick the ever loving shit out of the guy in question, his former label owner. But I feel it?s bad form and bad business to discuss this sort of thing in front of guys who are on salary, so I held my tongue.
?Well,? you might be saying to yourself, ?Maybe he was in shock! Maybe all this alleged shame and embarrassment just hadn?t yet sunk in after a mere 10 hours.? But in order for that theory to hold any water, you?d have to ignore the inconvenient fact that old Vapid then spent the next day and a half giving me pep talks about how we all make mistakes and how this was all going to blow over soon and how we needed to get right back up on the horse and how, above all, we must not under any circumstances cave into the pressure from the Internet crowd and cancel the upcoming east coast shows. He really seemed to have bounced back!
Unfortunately, by this point our manager, who was also our tour manager, had resigned, explicitly refusing to work the gigs that were coming up in three weeks; the booking agent had bailed; threats of violence were piling up; the other guys in the band had gone completely AWOL; and the label was pissed ? the owner had already grown enraged with me days before Austin because he?d suddenly decided that a song on the new album was poking fun at him personally, in spite of having received a demo of the song and five others, complete with lyrics, and having signed us for a $30,000 advance (with 20K more to be paid once the first advance recoups) based on that demo. Things were looking bleak. It was clear we needed time so I canceled the east coast shows, but I kept the Chicago weekend and the west coast shows on the calendar. I advised Vapid to stop discussing the issue with the hired hands and to give me a call instead so we could start righting the ship without the spare parts sticking their noses in. And then he went AWOL himself. Nothing like snatching away the dollar signs to get old Vapid to mutiny. He was off the boat and dog-paddling away to the nearest oasis before I?d even finished the sentence.
Even so, seeing as how the whole band had assured me they had my back and were ready to forge ahead just as soon as things cooled down, you can imagine my surprise when these bold rascals broke three days of radio silence to e-mail a copy of their press release to me and my interim manager, the inimitable and indefatigable Owen Murphy, who you know as my co-host on Weasel Radio.
Well! I?m not afraid to admit that I was beside myself! Not only were they suddenly feigning shame and embarrassment over my ?actions,? but their real beef, as they alluded to in the release and made crystal clear to me privately, had to do with my conduct on stage the entire evening! You know, the stuff I?ve been doing for 25 years? The ?fuck you and the horse you rode in? on act? The one that Screeching Weasel fans love to love and all the other humorless twats love to hate? Oh, they were very upset! They told me in no uncertain terms that while they wanted to stay in the band, things were going to have to change, and harumph this and well-I-never that. They?d apparently decided over the course of their three-day drum circle to dress up in daddy?s clothes and start throwing their weight around.
?You trashed the label on stage!? they moaned.
?I warned them beforehand I was going to be doing my act,? I replied, ?and that it was likely to result in hurt feelings, to which Chad Williams, head honcho at Fat, responded ?I?d expect nothing less?.?
?But? but you insulted our manager and really hurt his feelings!? they sputtered.
?Our manager who encouraged me to shit-talk SXSW and blame the whole thing on him and the label in an interview I did earlier that week?? I asked. ?Our manager who was sitting on the stage holding his sides in laughter while I ?fired? him and ?re-hired? him for the crowd?s amusement? Pish posh!?
Alas, they wouldn?t be deterred, and obviously I can?t have the clowns running the circus. So, having confirmed that all four of the craven worms had indeed signed the treacherous press release, I fired them unceremoniously and on the spot. ?And do me the courtesy of mentioning that fact in your press release!? was my parting shot.
As you well know, fans, they did no such thing, and in fact once the press release was out and they?d been hailed as heroes for ?quitting,? not one of them could muster up the testicular fortitude to mention that they?d actually been fired, much less that subsequent to their termination the slow-witted percussionist had spent several days and numerous e-mails trying to get everybody?s jobs back for them, much to the chagrin of poor Owen, who couldn?t seem to make them understand what the words ?You?re fucking fired, dumb-ass? mean. Said drummer even e-mailed me to explain that now that the press release was out we were all ?on a level playing field.? ?Owen!? I said, ?how does this idiot not understand that he?s not on the playing field at all? He?s on the bus home!?
And when the light bulb finally clicked on over Vapid?s pointy head and he realized that the goose had no more golden eggs up her business for him, did he nut up like a modern day John Wayne and take his lumps? Of course he didn?t. Come on. Leopards don?t change their spots and Danny Vapid doesn?t suddenly grow a set of gonads. No, fans, what he did, was he started giving interviews claiming to have been embarrassed over my actions at that very moment in time when he was actually pleading with me not to cancel any shows and to get back on the proverbial horse. And if he thought that little display wasn?t going to get me out of my hammock out on Cape Cod and into my Z28 back to Wisconsin, well, he was even more delusional than the time he put on a button down shirt and a skinny tie and said to the mirror, ?Brother, you look good.?
Now, the reason I mention all this is because my much-needed vacation has caused many of you fans to ask whether I?ve gone into hiding, or if I?ve become hopelessly demoralized; most of you have assumed that the band split up. Normally I?d say you should?ve known better, but given the circumstances I can?t really blame you. After all, the rest of the band deliberately led the press to believe that they?d resigned, and the headlines read ?Screeching Weasel quits on lead singer.?
But back in reality, I?d already replaced Vapid and the drummer, chosen from a steady stream of applicants who, to a man, noted that the chumps who ?quit? were a bunch of sorry, suck-ass motherfuckers and that the ensuing display of cannibalistic fury from the torch and pitchfork crowd was a whole lot of bullshit. I wasn?t able to get a full band together to commit to the May anniversary shows by the deadline we?d set, and if I may break character for a moment, I sincerely apologize for that, although the show had been decimated by that point anyway thanks to all the gutless turds in the 85% or so of the support bands who dropped off the bill ? quite a few of them choosing to grandstand by announcing it on Facebook rather than canceling with me or my management. Punk rock musicians are nothing if not cowards. I guess if you?re into seeing a band that can?t make a move without checking to see what the crowd thinks about it first those candy-asses will be right up your alley, but they?re persona non fucking grata over here at Weasel Manor, I can assure you.
And to break character again, my apology from last March was absolutely sincere, and I stand by it. I also apologized privately to my bandmates, booking agent, management and label, but almost all of them were too morally superior to me to accept my apology. Still, I stand by it. I fucked up, and if I had to do it over, I would?ve dealt with the situation in Austin in the same spirit as I did the previous 60 minutes ? with humor, style and a thick dollop of good old-fashioned panache.
To those who are too good to accept my apology ? I?m glad to know you?re all saints. Me, I?m still a miserable sinner but then Screeching Weasel fans don?t expect me to be perfect; they expect me to be human and honest, and the latter?s a hell of a lot more than they?re ever going to get from you holier-than-thou creeps.
To those who got all puffed up with pseudo sanctimony and threatened violence to me and my family, ho fucking hum.
To those bands who dropped off Weaselfest without bothering to inform me, and especially those who admitted that throwing me under the bus had nothing to do with what happened and everything to do with personal grudges, you?re weak sisters who will only take your shots when you have a crowd to stand behind. Guys, we all know that if the wind had blown in the other direction you?d still be hanging onto my coattails and offering to go get my coffee for me. But hey, at least you?ve scored a few brownie points with the gullible yahoos who think you?re principled for taking a stand against a guy who?d already been left for dead by that point. What a noble, courageous bunch you are!
Now the important stuff: To all the friends and family who stood by me, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I owe special thanks to Jenny Choi and Joe King, both of whom passionately defended me at a time when doing so was pretty much the kiss of death. I know you two took a whole lot of shit from the chattering punk classes for that, and your loyalty and courage means more to me than I can say.
And to you fans who had my back when things looked grim, I?m well aware that I owe my career to you, and I don?t give a shit who threatens what ? if you think I?m not going to be front and center to shake your hands and thank you on October 29th, you?re out of your tree. No label, no management, no booking agent ? no problem. They can?t do a damn thing about the fact that you?re still fans, and I can assure you it drives them fucking bananas!
Oh yeah ? for those who aren?t aware, Screeching Weasel is playing Reggie?s in Chicago on October 29th. Tickets are still available HERE. But this isn?t just a Screeching Weasel show ? it?s my Independence Day and this fully extended middle finger is my flag. I?ve been silent for almost five months but now I?ve taken over this Carnival Of Schadenfreude; it?s barreling down the tracks even as I type and I can hardly to wait to take the stage again. Did you think I?d ignore all of the unmitigated bullshit that went down after Austin? Hell no you didn?t, you?re Screeching Weasel fans ? you knew better. I?m embracing the chaos, and I?m giving it noogies and then I?m twisting it up into a delightful balloon dachshund for your amusement. The documentary crew will be there to record the whole spectacle so I need every true blue fan there with bells on to let all the hypocritical, sanctimonious pricks know exactly what we think of them.
So to reiterate, the band never split up for a second; I merely pink-slipped the dead weight and methodically replaced them with the meanest, leanest lineup of stand-up mofos I could find, every last one of them as disgusted as I am with this ludicrous show of puritanical finger-wagging over the past few months. The boys have been replaced by men. The ex-Weasels didn?t give a damn about what went down on stage at SXSW until the Internet told them they ought to. Then, after not giving a shit for two days, they suddenly grew a conscience. Rest assured, fans, no such weak-minded milksops are in the current lineup.
Think of it this way ? I?m taking back the reins from the classless, spineless, frightened children who dragged Screeching Weasel?s name through the mud with their dishonest, ass-covering press release; and all the cheap shot cowards who kicked me while I was down are getting a horseshoe straight up the ass!
And of course the Queers will be there. You couldn?t have kept Joe and company away with a riot squad and a tank full of tear gas. We?re gonna tear the roof off that place! If ever there was a Screeching Weasel show to see, this is the one, brothers and sisters. I?m back in town, and I?m tanned, rested and ready. Now somebody go get me my fucking microphone and let?s get this thing going!
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holy shit that is one big pile of fuck! treats his band members real nicely. i have never owned or listened to a full cd, tape, or album in any format by screeching weasel because his voice annoys me and the songwriting seems half assed, maybe if i head heard them when i was 13 it would be different. i am sure his hired hands and salaried help mentality didnt begin the moment they left the band, and i have no doubt that his attitude contributed greatly to their decision to give him the fuck finger.
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Embarassing.....isn't dude almost 50 now.
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did i already post my 'frankenben' photoshop??
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/joneshiro/frankenben.jpg)
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could play fred gwynne in the munsters biopic for sure
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The Onions sound exactly like Screeching weasel to me riff wise
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you havent heard any of our songs
i admit i am ignorant of screeching weasel, but really?
http://blip.tv/file/get/Bradx-THEONIONSEndOfTheNight956.mp3
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Cool you went from pop punk to a bar rock band I hear every time I am downtown. Thats not you singing is it
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yeah, its me singing. bar band? your criticisms are getting weaker and weaker, thats quite a stretch...
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yeah, its me singing. bar band? your criticisms are getting weaker and weaker, thats quite a stretch...
Spend some time wandering around Austin not during sxsw and you would understand
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the only reason you thought we were pop punk is because you heard us play this song and thought it was an original...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xUA5Wprc0c
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the only reason you thought we were pop punk is because you heard us play this song and thought it was an original...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xUA5Wprc0c
If you played that song I'd think you were a homo
But I think your a faggot because you have the same song structures and timing as every shit band I saw in the 90's in Chicago. Until that song you posted. Now I think you are a shitty bar Rock band that some reject from Florida will put out a record by and sit on for years.
You are a Razorcake band slathered in bbq sauce
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shit leopard cant change its spots.
i am fine with that review. i dont think you will truthfully be able to say that about the record when it comes out, but you will probably never hear it anyways so i dont give a shit.
thanks for playing.
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Anthem For A New Tomorrow is a great album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uewsr_a-LGg
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his voice annoys me and the songwriting seems half assed, maybe if i head heard them when i was 13 it would be different.
Coming from a member of LSOK! Hahahaha
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Thee Onions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu7wXPhICiQ
sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM2p6YlIg2k&feature=related with shittier recordings
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Nobunny should forget about the Cramps this Halloween and do a set of (good)SW songs.
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Assuming he knows any
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you havent heard any of our songs
i admit i am ignorant of screeching weasel, but really?
http://blip.tv/file/get/Bradx-THEONIONSEndOfTheNight956.mp3
this song rocks! is it on the single?
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Thee Onions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu7wXPhICiQ
sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM2p6YlIg2k&feature=related with shittier recordings
haha NO WAY!
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yeah thats a song i wrote back in 1997... totally indicative of us as a band now.
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you havent heard any of our songs
i admit i am ignorant of screeching weasel, but really?
http://blip.tv/file/get/Bradx-THEONIONSEndOfTheNight956.mp3
this song rocks! is it on the single?
there is a way better version of it on the B side. this is a demo version we did to test out my new recorder, the one on the record was co produced by myself and michael zink and recorded on all vintage analog gear.
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his voice annoys me and the songwriting seems half assed, maybe if i head heard them when i was 13 it would be different.
Coming from a member of LSOK! Hahahaha
yeah because i am in LSOK right now! Hahahahaha
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his voice annoys me and the songwriting seems half assed, maybe if i head heard them when i was 13 it would be different.
Coming from a member of LSOK! Hahahaha
yeah because i am in LSOK right now! Hahahahaha
Only reason for the LOL is because LSOK were so bratty/abrasive.
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had we listened to screeching weasel we probably woulda been a boring tight pop punk band. bratty and abrasive we might have been but the songwriting was top notch, at least the ones i wrote were.
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had we listened to screeching weasel we probably woulda been a boring tight pop punk band. bratty and abrasive we might have been but the songwriting was top notch, at least the ones i wrote were.
That Atom Bomb EP fuckin' rules. Total KBD in the 90s. LOVE it.
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Hey Fat Fuck. Whats the deal with this song. Which one of your corn ball bands full of inbred fish fuckers made this...Its alright http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJBaFoaenfc
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thats all me, baby. 100% bradx. it is a roky erickson cover, obviously. i made the demo for my stupid ass band to learn the song...
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Why would you need to record a song of a song to show your band. Couldn't you record the song of song you wanted to cover to show the band you wanted to play the song????
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i dont have alot of respect for the material i cover, in general i dont even listen to the original when doing a cover, so its usually better to let them hear how i sound playing it than it is for them to listen to the original, case in point...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhstDt0ql-U