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Terminal Boardumb => Music Shit => Pop Punk => Topic started by: Erin S on May 02, 2011, 08:37:53 AM
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Opinions?
I listened to this band a lot when I was 17-19, recently started listening to them again. "Born on the Floor" is pretty undeniably killer.
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Live, they were entertaining...until it went on too long. On record, it's pretty much worthless. Better on paper than in execution...too many boring various studio and live LPs, singles, videos and other bullshit.
Had they made ONE record, it might've worked.
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Shit band, shit records. The decline of Ian Svenonius's contributions to the realm of the worthwhile has been so steady you could set your moon calendar by it...from N.O.U. to the Make Up to "Play Power" to publishing books of shitty poetry to DJing Lizzy Mercier Descloux records at hipster dance parties. what's he gonna do next...guest spot on a Beck album?
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Destination: Love's a pretty tight album. It's not as good as NoU, but it's definitely a little easier to listen to
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Hmmm, I like Lizzie Mercier Descloux. I do suck tho. (and would be totally into dropping some rhymes on a Beck album)
Make-Up were good live. 'In Mass Mind' was the only one I ever really had time for. It's a gimmick, but no more than, oh say, most garage or budget rock bands.
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"In Mass Mind" is by far my favorite album of theirs. Maybe I just have a stupid emotional attachment to it, but I still like it.
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Whatever, don't let the relentless haters of Termbo (of which I am a proud member) get you down. There are no guilty pleasures. I mean, you've checked out the City Rock thread, right? And threads praising Steely Dan and Radiohead. Did you see the outpouring of love for Faith No More? (led by myself)
ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE
(Prince squeal)
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Never liked this band, and never understood Ian Svenonius's appeal. I'll admit that he took the concept of style over substance to another level, but it never ever spoke to me. He's of course sainted by many, but I'll pass. I do like that interview show he did for Vice. Make-up were "good" live but in this completely transparent way. But that's just me.
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can suck a dick forever
POSTED FROM MY SMACKBERRY
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can suck a dick forever
I'd like to see you try.
OK, Make-up were "entertaining" live. Is that better?
Nate K, you're fired for not being at the Double Negative/Kim Phuc show.
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can suck a dick forever
I'd like to see you try.
OK, Make-up were "entertaining" live. Is that better?
Nate K, you're fired for not being at the Double Negative/Kim Phuc show.
Seriously. I deserved that. I flaked. How high was the pool of teenage vomit? Inches?
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Nah, no vom. Dave Martin was there, and he had already seen another show AND picked up his kid from a birthday party. Fuckin Renaissance man, that guy.
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Nah, no vom. Dave Martin was there, and he had already seen another show AND picked up his kid from a birthday party. Fuckin Renaissance man, that guy.
I can't compete.
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AND he works at one of the world's prominent "independent" labels.
We are all mere mice in comparison.
I think I saw him tearing it up in the pit too, mid-80s Pitt-style. One-man Wall of Death.
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Had to YouTube 'em to remember what they sounded like (pardon my Alzheimer's). Could barely get through "Born On The Floor". I did own a 7" of theirs at some point during my teens, so I guess they sounded good at the moment.
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Shit band, shit records. The decline of Ian Svenonius's contributions to the realm of the worthwhile has been so steady you could set your moon calendar by it...from N.O.U. to the Make Up to "Play Power" to publishing books of shitty poetry to DJing Lizzy Mercier Descloux records at hipster dance parties. what's he gonna do next...guest spot on a Beck album?
Chain and the Gang.
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really liked 'in mass mind', really liked seeing the live show. other than that i have TRIED and owned a few of their other records, but none of them really pull me in and i always just figure if i want to listen to them, in mass mind it will be. oh, the cold rice 'live' record wasn't that bad either.
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MUSIC SHOULD BE ABOUT FUCKING. FUCKING SHOULD BE ABOUT MUSIC. AC/DC NOT DC/PC. TAKE ME TO THE MARDI GRAS. PASS THE DU$TY, I THINK I'M DR. JOHN.
I GRABBED THE ASS OF THE KEYBOARD PLAYER FROM THE FROGS.
SAW HIM WHEN HE WAS TOURING UNDER THE MONIKER OF "SCENE CREAMERS". DANCED WITH ACTUAL GIRLS AND PARTIED PRETTY HARD. LUTZKO?
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(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/34446353/Make+Up+free+arthur+lee.jpg)
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AND he works at one of the world's prominent "independent" labels.
We are all mere mice in comparison.
I think I saw him tearing it up in the pit too, mid-80s Pitt-style. One-man Wall of Death.
That other shit might be true but this is 100% bullshit. Maybe no actual pit was started during the Kim Phuc set because everyone was afraid of hurting the old dude standing in front of the band (or that old dude in the band?).
The Make Up have some jams and some non-jams but I decided a long time ago to give them a pass because of their "Hey Joe" cover. I still think it is brilliant and hilarious.
I also am a legit fan of the Scene Creamers / Weird War, but that has more to do with being a fan of Alex Minoff's guitar playing than Ian Sevonius. That Felt Letters single was funny and catchy too.
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The kids only pit to the fast bands, Martin. Kim Phuc is a slow grinding screw, basement hardcore Killing Joke made by guys even older than you (cept for Kasanovich). They were really good.
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Only thing I own from dude is the Cupid Car Club single, which I still like. Everything else I've strongly disliked.
Love the story of my friend walking in on Ian practicing his moves in the bathroom before a show.
You know who loves Ian Sev shit? THE UNITED KINGDOM.
(I swear, that shit was on every club stereo last month)
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The kids only pit to the fast bands, Martin. Kim Phuc is a slow grinding screw, basement hardcore Killing Joke made by guys even older than you (cept for Kasanovich). They were really good.
I may not look it, but I am older than everyone in Kim Phuc.
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Haha, I figured, but I wanted to backhand you a compliment. I saw some torn-stocking leopard-print mini-skirt chopped-hair tattooed
punk babes checkin you out, don't lie.
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Only thing I own from dude is the Cupid Car Club single, which I still like. Everything else I've strongly disliked.
Love the story of my friend walking in on Ian practicing his moves in the bathroom before a show.
You know who loves Ian Sev shit? THE UNITED KINGDOM.
(I swear, that shit was on every club stereo last month)
Cupid Car Club is SICK
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white belts, black fear.
white belts.
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?My Conversation With the Secret Service? by IAN SVENONIUS (Arthur No. 15/March 2005)
http://www.arthurmag.com/contributors/ian-svenonius/
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I own an embarrassing amount of this band's records.
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Only thing I own from dude is the Cupid Car Club single, which I still like. Everything else I've strongly disliked.
Love the story of my friend walking in on Ian practicing his moves in the bathroom before a show.
You know who loves Ian Sev shit? THE UNITED KINGDOM.
(I swear, that shit was on every club stereo last month)
Cupid Car Club is SICK
Agreed, I have their 7-inch. It's great.
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Hey. Everybody's got the right to like, dislike or feel ambiguously towards fey hipster funk, or give free passes to a guy who sounds like a cocaine version of Tickle Me Elmo. But it just ain't my thing, baby. I can't get into anything he's been involved with - forgot about the Scene Creamers stuff (mea culpa) but the story don't change. The singer in my old band was OBSESSED with Svenonius and developed a whiny, affected style of delivery that made our shit sound even worse than it was already... a good amount of my disgust comes directly from that experience.
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I had a couple teenage to early 20 bands compared to NOU, but hadn't heard 'em & didn't get the comparison when I did. I agree w/ a few folks up in this: dude's better on paper. The idea of the idea of Sven'O. In Mass Mind is okay. Have that one I think. I think buddyz on a booze cruise right now. I'll take John Spencer, mm'kay?
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cocaine
Tickle Me Elmo
shit
disgust
WE NEED TO PARTY MORE
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The singer in my old band was OBSESSED with Svenonius and developed a whiny, affected style of delivery that made our shit sound even worse than it was already... a good amount of my disgust comes directly from that experience.
Well, this sounds like a nightmare. Nevertheless, I bet you'd let Svenonius tickle yr pooter.
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Liked them alot in my teenage years. Saw them at the fireside in chicago and it was really a great show. I listened to one of their albums more recently and I it really creeped me out for some reason. I couldn't listen to them anymore. If they played again, I'd go see them though.
I remember DJing at KALX and putting on a Wierd War record and having to fade it out early because I couldn't wait for it to be early. Terrible.
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You know who loves Ian Sev shit? THE UNITED KINGDOM.
(I swear, that shit was on every club stereo last month)
true, as i do kind of like his stuff.... Sound Verite was good and the Grey Motorcycle ep...
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yeah i saw em at fireside too... sometimes they let too many people into shows.
strange enough, i saw the short lived 'scene creamers' incarnation of weird war/scene creamers/weird war not once but twice.
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sign me up as a hater. read an interview once where he tried to defend the 'style over substance' bullshit and sounded like a complete twat.
to make matters worse, i saw weird war once. he showed up later than the rest of the band with babes in tow. they proceeded to play some of the worst, most toothless music i have ever heard while svenoiousness pranced about like was prince or something.
thumbs down.
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The singer in my old band was OBSESSED with Svenonius and developed a whiny, affected style of delivery that made our shit sound even worse than it was already... a good amount of my disgust comes directly from that experience.
Well, this sounds like a nightmare. Nevertheless, I bet you'd let Svenonius tickle yr pooter.
Fuck you. If I break my streak, it ain't gonna be with a fuckin' psychedelic coke muppet.
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People seriously like this shit?
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People seriously like this shit?
a few people like it, enough to build a small indie career, but not enough people like it to get in the charts or be buying yachts etc.
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Strictly for fruitcakes.
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Saw them in 1996 upstairs in a coffee shoppe on a Sunday afternoon. Owned none of their music but that one show was kinda fun considering that this town was chockfulla indie emo sweaters in August motherfuckers. Saw Delta 72 around the same time opening up for Man Or Astro-Man or The Jesus Lizard. The Make-Up was a lot bit better than Delta 72. Delta 72 gets the gasssssssssssssss faaaaaaaaaaaaaaace.
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The Make-Up was a lot bit better than Delta 72. Delta 72 gets the gasssssssssssssss faaaaaaaaaaaaaaace.
Delta 72 were so terrible.
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Didn't know that kid had a band.
Lisp beat, go!
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The douche from this band is a walking herpes outbreak.
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Ha, breakin' it down, Clint! Totally agree.
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Clint's take on the Delta 72 was somehow even more boring than they are.
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...Good lord, what crap. Where to start? First of all, maddeningly, the bass player just seems to repeat the same one measure, maybe four note bass line over & over again(similar to the Fugazi bass player). This is the bullshit type of thing that idiots will remark upon, "He's such a great bass player, he doesn't just play the same root note as the guitar player." No, he sucks. Real bass players have fills & turnarounds & aren't just stuck in a three second loop.
Overall, the songs are too long & fucking boring, hammering that one same riff into the ground with no variation
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3244/2902432679_eb0239a901.jpg)
CLINT STARTED A JOKE, WHICH STARTED THE WHOLE WORLD LAUGHING
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Saw them twice, both times by accident. The first time they played after Harry Pussy. And to be fair, anyone playing in that slot is going to sound dull in comparison. The other time I saw in the bathroom changing into their outfits right before they played. They were crakin jokes about their fans. Classy.
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I'd like to single the below out as probably the single worst post in Termbo history.
I saw the Delta 72 in '98 and hated them, haven't listened to a lick of 'em since. Of course, back then I didn't know shit about R&B or soul, lemme refresh my opinion...
(imagine 15 to 20 minutes me listening to their Soul of the New Machine LP here)
...Good lord, what crap. Where to start? First of all, maddeningly, the bass player just seems to repeat the same one measure, maybe four note bass line over & over again(similar to the Fugazi bass player). This is the bullshit type of thing that idiots will remark upon, "He's such a great bass player, he doesn't just play the same root note as the guitar player." No, he sucks. Real bass players have fills & turnarounds & aren't just stuck in a three second loop. Now sure, sometimes he(the whole song) will go up a fourth in a truncated version of the 145 progression(the Fatals were notorious for this), but it really doesn't add much. I mean, if the most "complicated" progression you can handle is only the first half of what is considered one of the simplest progressions there is, then maybe you should pack it in.
Next, we have the guitar player. Most of these riffs sound like they originated with the bass player. The axe-man, he seems to have little clue as to what to play over them. He goes for this anemic bottle neck blues thing but he never seems to play an actual solo. If you've missed it, that's the only thing slide guitar is really good for: playing solos. This is especially irksome because there's a bunch of instrumental songs on this record & there's barely anything that would pass for a solo in any of them. See the first thirty seconds of the first song on The Immortal Lee County Killers Essential Fucked Up Blues LP for a much better version of everything this guitar player is trying. Anyway, as will become a theme, we should be thankful the Delta guitar player ain't even worse. To wit: he keeps the wah-pedal bullshit to a minimum.
The drums, they just seem like a standard post-hardcore type drummer. He keeps it as close to 4/4 as possible. He could be a doing a lot to add to the groove or even just rhythmically reminding the bass player he should be playing some fills every 4 or so measures. Still though, we should be counting our blessings, because at least he doesn't play any fucking disco beats(similarly, at least the bass player avoids octave jump basslines).
Next is the vocalist. He seems to vacillate between GVSB-lite(the guitar shows shades of this too) & the disingenuous "lawdy-lawdy" type vocalizing as employed by the billion Blueshammers of the world. The keyboard parts, generally seem like they could be played with one hand, there's not a hint of the notion of "playing a bassline with the left hand while playing a chord with the right hand'. No arpeggios or leads to be heard.
Overall, the songs are too long & fucking boring, hammering that one same riff into the ground with no variation & no real solo'ing over it. A relic of the stupid-ages, when it was permissible for your influences to range no further than MC5, the Stooges & three James Brown records.
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it's longwinded in the typical Clint style but he is speaking tha truth so I can't hate.
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e o a i i a io I i e o a e i a e e o i o i u i u i e e a o e a a e e e a e i a ua u i a i u ai i o e i i e u e a e o e o e a i a e i a u i a i a a u i a ua u ee i i ei u i a o e o e i ea e a oo o e e a e o i e e the magic of punk rock.
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Delta 72 are one of the worst bands I've ever seen in my life. Tops Spencer at his muggin-est and Svenonius with the posing.
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Delta 72 are one of the worst bands I've ever seen in my life. Tops Spencer at his muggin-est and Svenonius with the posing.
They're like a xerox of a xerox of a xerox that was then shat upon.
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Clint's take on the Delta 72 was somehow even more boring than they are.
LOL!
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...or he is.
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In '98 just about every girl I knew wanted to be Michelle May.
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haha remember when Michelle Mae got caught stuffing cd's in her purse at used kids?
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haha remember when Michelle Mae got caught stuffing cd's in her purse at used kids?
CLASSIC
maybe she started wearing a poncho so she'd have room for vinyl
(http://www.atpfestival.com/sized/files/img/artists/weirdwar_240x-1.jpg)
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In '98 just about every girl I knew wanted to be Michelle May.
Considering I saw the Make-Up in '98 in Columbus, I can confirm this. She's pretty hot tho.
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haha remember when Michelle Mae got caught stuffing cd's in her purse at used kids?
Her klepto problem was big news on the scene as I recall. Right up there with that whole Modest Mouse dude thing.
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haha remember when Michelle Mae got caught stuffing cd's in her purse at used kids?
Her klepto problem was big news on the scene as I recall. Right up there with that whole Modest Mouse dude thing.
First thing she stole was Issac Brock's virginity. Turned him all rapey.
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Oh man, don't get me started on that shit. Fuckin Columbus....
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(http://images.tbd.com/entertainment/orr-westcott-0920-002_606.jpg)
The Make-Up's Michelle Mae Orr and the Rollins Band's Bernie Wandel teach yoga in D.C.
http://www.tbd.com/articles/2010/09/the-make-up-s-michelle-mae-orr-and-the-rollins-band-s-bernie-wandel-teach-yoga-in-d-c--13852.html
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^babe.
I have no idea what you people are talking about.
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ladies and gentelmen,
please join us for this week's Hater's Corner.
featuring 90's has-beens , the Delta Spirit, er, uhm, the Delta Blue Dogs. i mean , excuse me, the Delta 72.
one of the most worthless bands ever formed.
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ladies and gentelmen,
please join us for this week's Hater's Corner.
featuring 90's has-beens , the Delta Spirit, er, uhm, the Delta Blue Dogs. i mean , excuse me, BLUES HAMMER.
one of the most worthless bands ever formed.