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Terminal Boardumb => Non-Music Shit => Cities => Topic started by: sgo shocks on July 05, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
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Later this year I am going to St. Petersburg and Moskow. Maybe somewhere in Siberia. This is likely ridiculous, but any termbos out there? What's the best way to avoid getting killed?
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What's the best way to avoid getting killed?
Don't wear any of these t-shirts, for one thing.
http://www.russiancriminaltattoos.com/category/t-shirts
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What's the best way to avoid getting killed?
Don't wear any of these t-shirts, for one thing.
http://www.russiancriminaltattoos.com/category/t-shirts
Oh yeah russian prison tattoos! Isn't kinda weird that those thing have become commercialized via T-Shirt? I could not imagine wearing a Hells Angels T-Shirt without being part of the "Crew". I don't know..
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If you're in Moscow during the summer time I highly recommend Swan Lake, a very fun outdoor venue in the middle of Gorky Park. The parties there were always a blast even if the music isn't particularly "termbo-approved." 6/2 was another fun bar, but I think it closed down. There's some other cool ones I visited, I can't remember the names but I can find out if you're really interested. If you're looking to do something more PUNK, grab a bottle of booze and hang out on Arbat street, where you're bound to befriend some crust-punk kids. For art: Garage Center or Winzivod. I'd also recommend a visit to the Soviet video arcade museum.
That all sounds cool. Thanks!
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As far as safety goes... Be careful when crossing the streets, it's a real warzone out on some of the roads there. Too many drivers are too proud to yield, abide the rules or even take a driver's ed course. Be careful when roaming around the city way in the AM's, especially if it's outside of the city center. There are always at least a handful of people out and about looking to fight someone, anyone or steal their cellphone. Beware of con people, if you're being offered something that sounds too good to be true, it is. I think that's about it. It has definitely gotten safer in the past 15 years, but don't let that get to your head. Otherwise, this will rule, though. Would love to go to Siberia!
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I came across a flyer for this record store when I was in Moscow a few weeks ago, but I didn't get a chance to visit the place.
http://dig-store.ru/
it's adress is
Pevchesky Pereulok 1/2 building #1 close to Kitay-Gorod metro station.
i've also heard good things about this place http://artinrussia.org/the-legacy-of-unofficial-art-in-st-petersburg-the-case-of-pushkinkaya-10-art-center/
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hey, new to the forums so i probably don't qualife as a "termbo" (man i haven't figured this forum out yet anyway, i just visited from time to time because lots of cool punk music is being posted about).
But yeah, i'm from moscow, know few punks in st.pete as well so if you need some advice i may probably help.
and tbh i don't think moscow or st.pete are any more dangereous than any other big cities in the world. it would be cool to tell you about how we're "living on the edge, fighting off cops and boneheads" - but we don't.
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Moscow is def. far more dangerous than NYC. I lived in NYC for four years, and only once felt threatened, but on a subway car at 4am, and I figured my situation would not come to violence. I was in Moscow for a week and I was almost jumped once, hanging out across from Victor Tsoi wall. Had I not a basic grasp of the Russian language and a lot of prior experience with gopniki, I may not have come out unscathed. When my brother over there told me to watch my ass in Moscow, I said "no worries, I have nothing for anyone to take" and he responded "so, then they take your face."
But the scariest part of Moscow is definitely the large streets when you get out of the center of the city into the residential/industrial areas.
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i don't know man, when i was a kid - yes, lots of assholes your age looking to mug you of your pin money.
in my 20s - not THAT scary
and that tsoi wall - a magnet for all sorts of assholes, that's true. but that's because there are loads of drunk assholes on that street and they know they might find some deviants there to beat up. but it's not like there is violence everyday or every week even.
the large streets - are you talking about like the very outskirts of the city? yeah those places might be tough, i don't even know, never was there late, but they probably have dark jokes about those areas for a reason
A friend of mine is living here with his soon-to-be wife, not directly in the center - she also lived for 3 years in Mexico - she keeps telling us we've never seen real crime and Moscow is kindergarden compared to some of the shit she'd seen :)
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I mean, trying to get from one side of the street in the outskirts to the other. You can't. You have to find a tunnel. Also, packs of roving wild dogs is nothing to me after living in Siberia in my youth, but to Americans, that's a pretty scary sight. I was not scared at all when I was in Moscow, and compared to Mexico everywhere is safe, but no matter how much safer things have gotten since the 90's there, I still think it's a place that westerners have to keep their wits about them, for a variety of reasons.
In the states at least, hardly anyone ever takes another person's face. We also don't have sayings here like "if you put your shirt on inside out, someone will beat you up." I don't know how many times my brother told me "we have a saying about this..." and I'd say "oh yeah? what's that?" "just that if you do this, someone will beat you up."
Of course Moscow feels safe to Russians... probably not so much to africans, asians, hispanics etc...
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yeah, all fair points tbh. especially, the last sentence... russia is an ugly country, no doubt about that.
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But yeah, i'm from moscow, know few punks in st.pete as well so if you need some advice i may probably help.
Cool, yeah this sounds nuts but I'm going there at the end of November. If there are shows or anything that would be rad, I will PM you my email. I imagine it will be freezing cold and mostly a lot of drinking inside.
Our Russian friend is going to be with us (he lives in not in Moskow anymore but somewhere in Siberia) so we'll have a local to keep us out of trouble at least. But yeah I'm think that I don't look too foreign enough to beat up or whatever. I figure they are more used to Asians or in my case, half-Asians than hispanics or brothas.
Kevin- Yeah I've never felt in danger even walking around alone NYC at night. Parts of DC though, are sketchy as fuck and I hurry my ass through them. If there were wild dogs and shit, I'd probably try and climb a tree fall break something and contract rabies
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I've just been back from Moscow and St. Petersbourg, so here's some fresh news regarding the record shops in these towns:
Moscow: (https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10626721_328581560650122_5598877645674050878_n.jpg?oh=e79b41139d5190e55ee140992999ea46&oe=54854D8B)
- Novoe Iskusstvo is selling records, books and some hipsters' shits. The records are 99% reissues of classic rock and they're expensive. One or two small boxes of Russian shitty records (not even this cheap). You won't find anything there.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Muy18cep8cY/VAiXBOsW_jI/AAAAAAAACcg/5a2eYHKO0yQ/w983-h553-no/20140904_192659.jpg) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fXTlvlQtu-o/VAiW69JL8wI/AAAAAAAACbk/BWj96zPmBqA/w311-h553-no/20140904_191812.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1ac2_qNZRCA/VAiW5zzDb0I/AAAAAAAACbY/CQAabCEzfRY/w983-h553-no/20140904_191700.jpg)
- Dig is a record store located in the basement of a bar (itself located under the level of the street): The Cult Cafe. Very friendly owner. Good shop with some interesting (pretty) cheap Russian second hands and some very fair priced western records (mostly 60's, new wave and classic rock). Some kind of Moscow mods' lair from what I've understood. Worth a visit.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pA5zmKxsXVo/VAqHHrV9ygI/AAAAAAAACy8/q6YqM1cR_eE/w983-h553-no/20140905_193628.jpg) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t7K7GLYgfaA/VAqHIrsHdVI/AAAAAAAACzI/ddR9yzV8hyU/w983-h553-no/20140905_193654.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F-DDwM5ImEg/VAqHJ5Vqs-I/AAAAAAAACzU/yTUzibWTDSE/w983-h553-no/20140905_193709.jpg) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b5FCeJCYIog/VAqHNGS18bI/AAAAAAAACz4/G5AakutJ0TA/w983-h553-no/20140905_202449.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-umFu163_b2s/VAqHOT7ToWI/AAAAAAAAC0E/F450EYXOZzU/w983-h553-no/20140905_202458.jpg) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ed3zDD97VxI/VAqHLyIB2RI/AAAAAAAACzs/47WKmimRn4U/w983-h553-no/20140905_202439.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dCRGXUBO6lM/VAqHK83mH3I/AAAAAAAACzg/ola29uW9wQY/w983-h553-no/20140905_202425.jpg)
- Sound Barrier is located very far from the center of Moscow: you have to take the subway to Gagarin place and from there the bus n°33 (well, I think it was 33. You'll check, if I did it, you can do it too). The place is hidden inside the buildings.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cl4NYxJ8BLc/VAyRgWnHDsI/AAAAAAAADac/MEVlLmMA4yw/w311-h553-no/20140907_193932.jpg)
And from the outside it looks like a rat hole, but believe me it's an amazing place.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MNmXXfLPBWQ/VAyReMuc1yI/AAAAAAAADaQ/8za3pTHy3-Y/w311-h553-no/20140907_192956.jpg)
If you have to visit just one record shop, do this one. You enter and there's nothing but a red armseat and a stairway going underground. From there, there are piles of 78rpm (dirt cheap, if it's your thing).
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bvZsfQAgcZU/VAyRbyhyJ7I/AAAAAAAADaE/hgzUQYt4nYI/w311-h553-no/20140907_192939.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yos7gSmbYMM/VAyRWkfc-CI/AAAAAAAADZs/kroyFGi0X3U/w311-h553-no/20140907_191738.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x1BoacNah-U/VAyRUVmRv1I/AAAAAAAADZg/0-b5H8eV3Y8/w311-h553-no/20140907_191726.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-A8rmK29gDZ4/VAyRM819xCI/AAAAAAAADY8/T98GmbGgjRc/w983-h553-no/20140907_190833.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-37AW10wjiYA/VAyRCuyrCwI/AAAAAAAADYk/p7I62-YGUgc/w983-h553-no/20140907_190811.jpg)
Then you turn right in a dark corridor and you arrive in a long bunker with several lanes, each one filled with thousands of records, litterally everywhere. You'll need hours and probably days to check just what you think that might be interesting. The shop is own by three girls. That's rare enough to be noticed. The only guy there is an old man who's only job is to stare at the video monitors. Fortunatelly, every record here is in their database (which fortunately again exists also in latin alphabet) and they were kind enough to lent me a computer and let me use it. It took me more than 4 hours but I've found two records from my top want list... and the prices were very fair. They got any style (you just name it), and the shop exists since the beginning of the 90's. Totally recommended.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I4sb1AnP-cQ/VAyRHuxgMfI/AAAAAAAADYw/nqPSHpbiPg8/w983-h553-no/20140907_190818.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-81EitRL_ElY/VAyQfXbXfaI/AAAAAAAADVw/Z2natWEpfvs/w983-h553-no/20140907_173329.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kFBh9EDqVGY/VAyRAsMlIAI/AAAAAAAADYY/17whhsbi5lE/w983-h553-no/20140907_174052.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-N4fh5Q1FlaQ/VAyQ86gbMII/AAAAAAAADYM/PXxAoayRI5I/w311-h553-no/20140907_174037.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gb-SoznsmGM/VAyQ4o9tgCI/AAAAAAAADYA/xdpQcGnbS8g/w311-h553-no/20140907_173901.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V50OHq2lhjI/VAyQ2fTBk6I/AAAAAAAADX0/VIhoge6-kHM/w983-h553-no/20140907_173852.jpg) (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-MRSZYfPLP68/VAyQzgsQMJI/AAAAAAAADXo/YKwp0jtmkOY/w311-h553-no/20140907_173847.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T7b7Ug3Kt78/VAyQwMHi-VI/AAAAAAAADXc/LbZaJWtUX-I/w983-h553-no/20140907_173446.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W78VA7BTS-8/VAyQsddwCMI/AAAAAAAADXQ/OVUkqeFOD_A/w311-h553-no/20140907_173441.jpg) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WuaKwIGdoyQ/VAyQqEZpwAI/AAAAAAAADXE/Au86ITMY6yo/w311-h553-no/20140907_173414.jpg) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xZqgpivcNiY/VAyQm_wNtKI/AAAAAAAADWs/kQ-hQGIwaqQ/w311-h553-no/20140907_173402.jpg) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q4h6uZzweRk/VAyQj18eT2I/AAAAAAAADWU/KyDfTz-cTF8/w311-h553-no/20140907_173349.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8Rp0yUVEXUc/VAyQg5m0IcI/AAAAAAAADV8/N9yCkxrBtX0/w311-h553-no/20140907_173335.jpg)
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Saint Petersbourg : (https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10609675_328581577316787_5248422102318541370_n.jpg?oh=a33abedc80517c0e320d76af09a1cd10&oe=548B5E8E&__gda__=1418836790_039691b77424db7de7ed1c9488de7911)
- Baza is selling mostly electronic music. I skipped it.
- Vinyl Box is very similar to Dig (in Moscow). it is also located in a bar, you have to enter and take a stairway going underground in the back. The seller is also very friendly. You'll probably find something there. They have an interesting section of Russian rock, Free jazz and krautrock. I've find some very cool things there at good prices. Recommended.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2Isr4FSutms/VA8wlXeuypI/AAAAAAAAEvE/KQ3YCqRbOcE/w983-h553-no/20140909_202111.jpg) (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3Gut1-UCjSw/VA8wm5FszpI/AAAAAAAAEvQ/_xXTbV8YAUg/w983-h553-no/20140909_202121.jpg) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o8Z7rUM8HSQ/VA8won3PUoI/AAAAAAAAEvc/cckwdYjsSfs/w983-h553-no/20140909_202137.jpg)
- Fonoteka Platinka is located very close from the previous one. it's owned by a couple of nice people. I was supposed to meet a local collector there, but we never did. So I just lazily checked their stock which seemed pretty decent and forgot to take any pictures. You may find things there too. It's just slightly more expensive than Vinyl Box.
... and don't miss the Moscow's flea market... tons of russian records with mind blowing sleeves... ranging (tourists) prices are 70 to 100 rbls.
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SOMEONE (RICH) GIVE KRAPO A COLUMN
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"Sound barrier" was the only place I found in Moscow that had anything good. I got some decent shit there, for sure.
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Also, I saw a Lamborghini outside of "Sound Barrier." I saw several Lamborghini in Moscow, the only place I've ever seen one in person.
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Great pics.
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Also, I saw a Lamborghini outside of "Sound Barrier." I saw several Lamborghini in Moscow, the only place I've ever seen one in person.
Isn't Moscow the city with the most bilionaires worldwide? Lottsa super-richs there for sure.
Also, great read and pics, OskarKrapo!
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Uggh, I've got to go back. Oddly enough I just scored 20 visstovsky records here in the us for a buck a piece. Not hard to find but certainly cheap and convenient.