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Strange thoughts I did think as I skimmed this article:
(1) AllMusic has a regular feature about cassette releases.
(2) Burger sold 2,500 copies of King Tuff Was Dead.
(3) The interviewer wonders if the Burger guys looked to Shrimper or K Records for inspiration.
http://blog.allmusic.com/2012/08/23/all-tape-guide-august-2012/ (http://blog.allmusic.com/2012/08/23/all-tape-guide-august-2012/)
The world is a weird place.
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"In the five years we've been doing this I've heard EVERYTHING. The guy who started Maximum Rock N' Roll [magazine] came up to us at a show, drunk and berating us for destroying music and killing music. It was crazy. I was like "'I'm not trying to, I love music!'"
Tim Yo zombie attack?
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Worst label. Also the comments are closed, what's up with that?
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"In the five years we've been doing this I've heard EVERYTHING. The guy who started Maximum Rock N' Roll [magazine] came up to us at a show, drunk and berating us for destroying music and killing music. It was crazy. I was like "'I'm not trying to, I love music!'"
Tim Yo zombie attack?
Uh oh.
Burger has put out 312 tapes? What the crap. Oh well, Captured Tracks slowed down on 100 and they released records...
Also, is the "pay to be on Burger" KLYAM tape out yet?
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Worst label. Also the comments are closed, what's up with that?
It's probably not super popular to defend Burger around here but I'll take a stab at it. I really love Pangea's LIVING DUMMY release that they put out on vinyl last year and I quite like the Lovely Bad Things EP from this year. I don't really understand the cassette culture but I have picked up a few Burger cassettes over the years that aren't on vinyl (most recently the Gentleman Jesse - SINGLES AND RARITIES) and I'm glad that they are available to me in some format other than digital download. The Burger dudes are also a pretty unavoidable part of going to shows around Los Angeles and Orange County, they promote a lot of good shows and show up at plenty of other shows that they don't have anything to do with putting on.
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Imagine if Burger did a Kickstarter. This place would explode.
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The Burger dudes are also a pretty unavoidable part of going to shows around Los Angeles and Orange County, they promote a lot of good shows and show up at plenty of other shows that they don't have anything to do with putting on.
HORRIBLE SHOWS
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New Issue of The Believer comes with a cassette mixtape by Calvin Johnson and features multiple Burger bands. Including my MOM. http://www.believermag.com/issues/201207/?read=notes_johnson (http://www.believermag.com/issues/201207/?read=notes_johnson)
77SiCKBOIZ!
UP THE BURGX
FU THE PUNX
LiVE THE CHA0$
CA$H THE C0RE
RiDE ThE $Ci0N!
<3 THE H8
STAY HUNGRY!
Or DI3 HIGH!
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"In the five years we've been doing this I've heard EVERYTHING. The guy who started Maximum Rock N' Roll [magazine] came up to us at a show, drunk and berating us for destroying music and killing music. It was crazy. I was like "'I'm not trying to, I love music!'
Could DEFINITELY see Jeff Bale doing this, maybe that's who they are talking about?
The hatred towards cassette emergence is amusing. Love reading the comments whenever Burger releases a new tape.
People get uptight about some weird shit...
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(2) Burger sold 2,500 copies of King Tuff Was Dead.
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not crazy about the general 'burger style'...not really into nobunny et al., but the label's put out some records i really dig (Resonars - Bright and Dark, Was Dead).
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That King Tuff LP is really good.
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I dont understand all the outright hate for Burger Records
Sure, Burger puts out a lotta crap, they also put out cool ass shit. Re-release a few QUICK records on tape for 5 bux? Fuck yea, thats great! They put on shows as well as free all ages gigs at their AWESOME record store, and release whatever the fuck they want. Whats wrong with that? Not weird enough for you? Not pretentious enough? Who fucking cares.
Ill buy maybe 1 out of every 10, 20 records they put out, I still think they are great for doing what they are doing.
Fullerton is a black hole, there is finally a little light at the end of the tunnel for kids growing up in that shithole.
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Just heard a song by The Sufis on wfmu and it turns out burger did a tape version. Shit was kooky. Will be getting the lp for sure.
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Burger thinks Brace is the guy who invented MRR!
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It's astounding that any artist can sell 2500 copies of a cassette tape in 2012. Shrimper, K, RRR, Hospital, Hanson, etc never even produced more than a few hundred of any of their titles. I couldn't care less what anyone does on the beach or in a van, but what kinda asshole takes a tape player to the beach? Are you sure you aren't Ariel Pink, "BRACE"? "Lookit me, I'm Ariel Pink! I take R Steevie Moore tapes to the beach!" If you're playing Nobunny tapes on the beach you deserved to get your ass kicked.
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Seriously, you show up at my beach and pull that shit, I have no choice but to stick my foot up your ass. I am the king of the beach.
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Burger would be great if all of the music wasn't so sterile and cookie cutter. The Quick is not a "Burger band".
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Theres a band called The Sufis? Fuck the world. Literally stick a giant fork in it until it comes out the other side and fucks Mars in every barren burning fucking sun scorched hole.
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They just did a Milk n' Cookies cassette too. THE GO box set is pretty killer.
I think they started putting out rap also.
EDIT: The VOMETTES tape is pretty sickening. Great terrible punk. garbage music
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Fever B.
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Fever B. Mmoss. The Pizzaz (an awesome pop record). Conspiracy of Owls (I know this record got slandered on Termbo but I still think it has some great tunes). The Resonars. Cleaners from Venus reissues. I haven't followed much later and probably don't care for much of their catalog, but they did put out some really nice stuff indeed and I always got the impression they were pretty cool. Hardcore bands still put out lots of tapes and nobody has anything to say about it - is it because they're called "demos"? Seriously, I don't get the hate either. There's so much worse stuff out there...
yeah cute shit is dumb but you guys liked the vivian girls for goddsake
Precisely.
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I don't have anything against Burger or albums on tape in general. I also don't know why anyone would think that it's a good idea to put 200 tapes out in a year but whatever.
When Black Lips was here year or so ago, they had their Burger tapes for sale for like 15 dollars. That was fucking ridiculous.
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Cos tapez is worfless... on my beatch.
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Burger is like pretty much any label, some good to bad, to awful stuff…no big deal!
And I don’t see anything wrong with tapes. Being in my early 30, tapes are the first format of music i was exposed to as a teenager. CD wasn’t the norm yet and vinyl was starting to fade out. I was definitely a product exposed to the tape culture. Rewinding a tape with a pencil to save batteries of my walkman when I was in highshcool was business as usual for me.
Of course i’m so much more into vinyl but I have no reason to hate or complain or backlash a label doing tape. Who cares, i mean they put out tapes of bands that have already their stuff out on vinyl/CD it’s not like they are putting out tapes at the expense of another format, most of the time the thing is already out on LP/CD. So who cares it is just another format.
Seriously, you show up at my beach and pull that shit, I have no choice but to stick my foot up your ass. I am the king of the beach.
I dare you to come over and try to kick my ass while I’m listening to my Late Show or my Tronics tape on you nasty beach! I'm the king of pop! 8)
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Burger thinks Brace is the guy who invented MRR!
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I don't hate Burger, that's just some silly shit for kidz. It's just goofy that peepl like tapes now, 'cos they were never any good in the first place. It'z LOLz to me IMHOMO that the market for "indie" tapez is ten times bigger now than it was twenty years ago, when tapes actually existed and normal human beings with normal lives played 'em 'cos they couldn't afford CDs or CD playaz in they carz, and musicians couldn't afford to make CDs for cheep. That's what tapes was in 1992, FYU.
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The Ryan Adams tape sold out in three hours. All 400 copies were gone and people were posting them on eBay.
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2500 King Tuff Tapes!!! are people really to lazy to just dub that shit and scan the cover? its a f'ing cassette tape! oh and btw-BURGER SUCKS.
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2500 Tapes and I think 2000 LPs. I like that record, but that's a surprising amount of copies of it to be sold. However, each tape and both pressings of the vinyl were in different sleeves/color variations I imagine there are more than a few people who have like 7 versions of it. weird.
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"I had no idea!!!"
But yeah, hey, allmusic "truly utilizing the blog format" should bring ridic shit like this, cum on. I hope it gets even worse = enjoyable. Is that possible? Nobody wants this to be good music writing, am I right?
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This thredd proves ladies prefer 12 inches.
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Wait, 2500 King Tuff tapes? I wonder what the profit margin is on this hokey shit.
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Wait, 2500 King Tuff tapes? I wonder what the profit margin is on this hokey shit.
Well it says in the article that the tapes cost a dollar to make... considering everything I'd say it's like one third is pure profit.
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Well it says in the article that the tapes cost a dollar to make... considering everything I'd say it's like one third is pure profit.
When Black Lips was here year or so ago, they had their Burger tapes for sale for like 15 dollars. That was fucking ridiculous.
THAT is pure profit! Not to say total rip off!
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
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It's astounding that any artist can sell 2500 copies of a cassette tape in 2012. Shrimper, K, RRR, Hospital, Hanson, etc never even produced more than a few hundred of any of their titles. I couldn't care less what anyone does on the beach or in a van, but what kinda asshole takes a tape player to the beach? Are you sure you aren't Ariel Pink, "BRACE"? "Lookit me, I'm Ariel Pink! I take R Steevie Moore tapes to the beach!" If you're playing Nobunny tapes on the beach you deserved to get your ass kicked.
I bring a boombox when I go swimming at the river, I don't see why you wouldn't, how else are you supposed to listen to music?
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
I am not clear as to how you REALLY feel?
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there's even like a "burger" DJ night in my town.
and like Burger Clone tape labels. and even real burgers.
lame.
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I bring a boombox when I go swimming at the river, I don't see why you wouldn't, how else are you supposed to listen to music?
Yes, but why a tape boombox?
Don't get me wrong: I don't care what you do down by the river, or in your van, or in your van down by the river, like the funny joke on SNL. But you putos make it sound like all you ever do is go swimming to The Quick and King Tuff. What kind of lives are you leading? Go to church for once! Get a jobb! Put on some clean clothes (no band buttons!) and stopp wasting your dough on cassettes like a buncha goddamn third-world mongoloids.
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Listening to tapes on a boombox. Pfft! That's not America. That's not even Mexico.
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They just want our childhoods, man.
Rockin' "Jam On It" on the ghetto-blaster down at the crick. Lemonade stands and Thriller tapes. Anthrax "I'm The Man" censored and uncensored, with bonus "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" cover. Ride The Fucking Lightning. "Mommy, Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?" Walkman-style, cross-country, Greyhound soul-saver.
I have made women fall in love with me with tapes, and those tunes were the only thing left after words became meaningless. Taped over the good parts with snatches of Rick Dees in 1989 reminding you that "that girl is poison." Ain't nothin' but a good time.
Cassettes revolve and the planet revolves and life revolves and wouldn't it be cool if Burger put Revolver on tape? Or even Velvet Revolver?
Here's the thing about cassettes: The cases are great for hiding drugs in.
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wasn't there like a Francis Harold and the Holograms tape making fun of burger? The Fullertones? I forget, but I recall the gag being funny.
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Tape War!
i'm starting a fucking 8-track cassette label any interest?
bands get in touch...
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Tape War!
i'm starting a fucking 8-track cassette label any interest?
bands get in touch...
Not funny for a lot of reasons, including just not very funny (sorry) but especially because it's been done a number of times already.
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
At least this is a hatred for Burger that I understand and I'm glad someone finally stated it but isn't that just them out hustling other labels and finding a niche for themselves and then filling it? The cassette is clearly the inferior Pabst Blue Ribbon of media but if kids at shows are going to buy it for $5 instead of dropping $12 for the superior vinyl, shouldn't that option be celebrated to some extent for being good for the artist (who is seeing some profits from the tape sales, I assume) and ultimately good for the scene because that kid will eventually have the money to buy your awesome Useless Eaters LPs when the music bug has crawled into the recesses of his/her brain.
Also, I mentioned it earlier but Burger is now doing exclusive vinyl releases too that are pretty strong. Pangea - Living Dummy, Nobunny - Raw Romance, Lovely Bad Things - EP, Cosmonauts - If You Wanna Die Then I Wanna Die, Natural Child - For the Love of the Game and others that I'm less excited about. If their business practices of going behind labels backs to put out silly cassette tapes at budget prices allowed them to put out all of these LPs on vinyl, I'm all right with that trade off.
That's Ed, going to the beach with tapes is no way to live.
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I don't like the mutual back scratching of the Burger Boys and Girls, that is all. Nothing else. Basically what I also hate about all music "I'll like your band if you like mine" type shit.
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None of these people involved are living well by any means either. 2500 tapes? I have 5 grand too big fucking deal.
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Tape War!
i'm starting a fucking 8-track cassette label any interest?
bands get in touch...
Not funny for a lot of reasons, including just not very funny (sorry) but especially because it's been done a number of times already.
The interest is def there. There's a shop I go to with a whole wall of "used" (chuckle) 8-tracks, which cost 6 or 7 bucks each, and are lovingly thumbed through by complete wastes of life who are perpetually looking for stuff.
What do they seek? I don't know, and should ask them. They're probably looking for Tusk or something. I won't actually ask them, as I picture them lecturing me about the "beautiful and underrated sound that comes from the medium" or some shit.
*Burger Tapes should get a leg up and make 500 Ryan Adams 8 tracks.
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None of these people involved are living well by any means either. 2500 tapes? I have 5 grand too big fucking deal.
Did you make your 5k through selling cassette tapes to people born in 1991?
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None of these people involved are living well by any means either. 2500 tapes? I have 5 grand too big fucking deal.
Did you make your 5k through selling cassette tapes to people born in 1991?
Yes.
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Hm.
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It's hard to knock anyone that puts out a Brian Hermosillo solo record.
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
When I wanna listen to some goddamn music I want it NOW goddammit and not 4 months down the road like with TTT. I will take my Bunnywunny and the Apple Fartpies on cassette (for half the price!) NEXT WEEK, thank you very much. Not thru TTT on a record (for 3 times the price!) after the Mayan calendar has EXPIRED and I am on fire, thank you very much.
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Basically what I also hate about all music "I'll like your band if you like mine" type shit.
agreed. the dude from white load (one of my favorite bands to get get fucked up to this year) dissed the psyched album yesterday in another thread, and even after having spent good money on leather bar releases i don't hold that slam against him and will continue to buy their shit. i just hope my story is straight on who he is.
this is coming with me on my second annual weekend on the chesapeake bay this fall:
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It's hard to knock anyone that puts out a Brian Hermosillo solo record.
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Agreed. I wish someone would put out another one!
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Why don’t label invest 100$ more and put out a tape along every LP they release so Burger won’t be able to "steal" those release from them. Seems like doing tape is no financial risk anyway, no real time consuming and easy money to recap.
I’m no label so i’m just asking but I kinda know the answer: they (labels) don’t give a shit about tape and don’t want to deal with that, which is totally relevant and understandable, you already have enough shit putting out your own vinyl (maybe CD also in some case) so who wants to bother with another useless format right? That is totally fine, then why not letting other people take care of that business.
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I don't have many pie graphs around my place so I can't tell you if Burger Records is "filling a niche". I can't speak to their keen business acumen either because I am a fucking idiot who goes into debt chasing what I love. You will all see a few releases this fall that will have a quality to cost ratio that will blow your God damn minds. This will be the latest example of "what the fuck I'm on about". Burger Records on the other hand, works at Bain Capital, and gave my grandmother cancer. Now, I have to go steal all of In The Red's catalog and press it to 10" because there is a huge NICHE for 10"s of everything ALREADY SELLING ON LP.
Why don’t label invest 100$ more and put out a tape along every LP they release so Burger won’t be able to steal those release from them. Seems like doing tape is no financial risk anyway, no real time consuming and easy money to recap.
I was literally going to do EXACTLY THIS. But then I realized I would be SO FUCKING GAY.
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Now, I have to go steal all of In The Red's catalog and press it to 10" because there is a huge NICHE for 10"s of everything ALREADY SELLING ON LP.
I doubt there is a niche for that, it is the same problem than LP and 45; You can't listen to these at the beach or while swimming at the river.
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^Vehicular g-spot stim.
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In the last 5 years we've made 26 LPs, 4 7"s and 300 some-odd tapes. Out of those we've done debut albums for 150-200 bands. We don't steal other labels bands, those bands WANT to make tapes with us because we work hard, we love music and it shows. LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU AND KEEP BURGER ON THE BRAIN!!!! :-) xoxo
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KLYAM #1
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This whole concept -- tape label, "stealing" bands, etc. -- is amazing. The bad kind of amazing.
Imagine the courtroom the day that lawsuit came into play.
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Expert witness for the defense:
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"You can't handle the truth."
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Goodbye, friends.
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since some have made inquiry, it's real, it's here, 9-3-12
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back to regularly scheduled programming
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Terminal Boredom rules.
Tell your friends.
Give a penny, take a penny.
amirite TTTTTTTTTT???
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yeah why would you care what some guys are doing in fucking Fullerton if you're like an adult anywhere else in the Universe??? Those guys are fine. I have some burger tapes--when my band stayed at their house they just gave us all of them and when we played their store a year or two later they just let us pick out whatever ones we wanted for free. That's cool with me and isn't confusing, because tapes are still cheap to make. and they're cool, ipod boomboxes are quiet and it's stupid to bring an expensive thing with you somewhere like the beach so why not bring a tape player and why not listen to the Quick on it? I don't get the backlash against tapes in general. pretty sure no band i'm ever going to like is ever going to be some "cassette" band (???) and it's not like the people I know with cars have nice cars so why can't I listen to a goddam tape in car? Or in my room, as I am wont to do when cleaning it. It's not like these guys are in any way ripping anyone off at any level and they have a sick record store with good-ass prices. I dunno why but I get really confused when people hate burger, yeah cute shit is dumb but you guys liked the vivian girls for goddsake
agree 100%. I don't know who that makes more uncomfortable.
I don't have anything against Burger or albums on tape in general. I also don't know why anyone would think that it's a good idea to put 200 tapes out in a year but whatever.
When Black Lips was here year or so ago, they had their Burger tapes for sale for like 15 dollars. That was fucking ridiculous.
agreed, and that is ridiculous, but I'd lay that at the Black Lips' feet and not Burger's
and now to the meat of the matter
Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
I wish you were standing in front of me so I could beat the ever loving piss out of you right now. Motherfucker you are one to talk. How about not responding to emails and being a bitch and going back on deals you made with other labels? You are the biggest shithead in the business. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!! You know nothing about Burger records or really anything else. You are a rich kid who got lucky with some releases and that's it.
EAT A FOSSILIZED DINOSAUR DICK!!!!!!!
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yesssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MARK BEEF!
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
Leave California and Faggots out of it.
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The most offensive part about Burger is the fact they are flooding the market with mediocrity and half baked records/bands. I would probably love this record if I didn't, y'know, like good PUNK.
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The most offensive part about Burger is the fact they are flooding the market. I would probably love this record if I didn't, y'know, like good PUNK.
OK. Now I know you are kidding.
HA!
nvr 4get
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but seriously
It's 2012
And I'm HARDCORE
PUNK!
No posing here bro.
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BACKLAST TO THE BACKLASH. THE CIRCLE OF LIFE
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EAT A FOSSILIZED DINOSAUR DICK!!!!!!!
This thread is getting fantastic!
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
I wish you were standing in front of me so I could beat the ever loving piss out of you right now. Motherfucker you are one to talk. How about not responding to emails and being a bitch and going back on deals you made with other labels? You are the biggest shithead in the business. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!! You know nothing about Burger records or really anything else. You are a rich kid who got lucky with some releases and that's it.
EAT A FOSSILIZED DINOSAUR DICK!!!!!!!
I already fucking explained to you before that TODD WENT AHEAD AND PRESSED THAT LENGUAS LARGAS LP WITHOUT TELLING ME and THEN SENT THE BILL. I PAID HIM BACK. WHAT THE FUCKIN HELL. ALSO...get your fucking facts straight. Call my credit card company and ask them how rich I am....a rich kid doesnt have like $15,000 in ALL LABEL RELATED DEBT. But thats how I roll to make shit happen. Ask them how much I owe to them. Ask my wife why I can't ever buy shit because everything I scrimp out of my life goes into putting out quality releases I care about. Ask Todd if I paid him back. THEN COME ON HERE AND REPORT YOUR FINDINGS.
I AM ONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS because they poach a ton of my shit. The same shit I am in debt for producing in the first place, is that shit they make cassettes a dime a dozen of. I know enough about Burger Records to know that bands keep emailing me with the same line of, "hey burger wants to do a tape...." and that when I ask them to TELL BURGER RECORDS TO CONTACT ME ABOUT IT they never do....then...eventually I just say fuck it do it.
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For those of you who are unaware of what is going on here...Mr. BEEF has forced y hand into revealing a bunch of bullshit info to cleAR THE fart air. Mr. Beef is the guitarist of Isaac's band, LENGUAS LARGAS. I contacted Isaac and we did a 7". Then we were slated to do an LP. Then TODD from RECESS RECORDS contacted them and wanted to put it out. We all agreed it would be a cool co-release and then NOTHING REALLY HAPPENED AT ALL....LIKE FOREVER. Suddenly, the bill comes. I thought I'd ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED IN THE PRESSING seeing as YOU KNOW....I AM A LABEL DOOOOOINGGGG ITTTTTT. But no. Just a "hey its out now! Heres the bill!!!"
Needless to say, I DIDNT EXPECT THAT. Since Todd did it on his timeframe, I figured it wasnt too big of a deal if I paid him back on mine. And I DID PAY HIM BACK. For some reason Mark Beef has a massive stick up his ass for me taking a long time to pay back a dude who basically jumped in and took control of it and left me in the dark about things.
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booooooooooooooooooorrrr riiiiiiiiiiiingggggggggg ggg
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yesssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally!!! Not that I would be buying that tape, but at least I don't have to keep calling KLYAM a fagget (I am man of my words)
KYLAM #1
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I went to a Sxsw showcase of Burger Bands to drink free booze and do free drugs. All provided for by these people who when offering me a button got told off by me. Dude just rolled with it like a champ and offered me another beer. That's all I pretty much care about. The bands suck,buying tapes is ridiculous unless they are to make your own,and complaining about this label is like bitching about YouthAttack.
Also Recess records is still around?
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KYLAM #1
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Terminal Boredom rules.
Tell your friends.
Give a penny, take a penny.
amirite TTTTTTTTTT???
More like give a penny, take a penny, give back two pennies. In every stack of "late orders" there are a bunch of people who filed some kind of Paypal claim and got their money back already thinking I was never gonna send it or something (even tho people usually know im slow as shit). I don't really check who those people are and I just send all the shit like I wuz gonna anyways. It's kinda whatever. You'd be amazed how many internet bitches dont make a peep when they get a boatload of free records in the mail. Or contact the label wanting to pay me for the shit they stole from me basically (which is what that essentially boils down to). I'm just sayin, yall can think you know what the fuck is up....but you dont know shit.
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That's not what I was referring to, but yr response still speaks volumes.
I couldn't care less about any of this shit honestly. Not that I think yr points aren't valid. They are.
But really, in the end, this thread has just made me hungry. Who wants to get some sliders?
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also
sick post
The most offensive part about Burger is the fact they are flooding the market. I would probably love this record if I didn't, y'know, like good PUNK.
OK. Now I know you are kidding.
HA!
nvr 4get
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yeah why would you care what some guys are doing in fucking Fullerton if you're like an adult anywhere else in the Universe??? Those guys are fine. I have some burger tapes--when my band stayed at their house they just gave us all of them and when we played their store a year or two later they just let us pick out whatever ones we wanted for free. That's cool with me and isn't confusing, because tapes are still cheap to make. and they're cool, ipod boomboxes are quiet and it's stupid to bring an expensive thing with you somewhere like the beach so why not bring a tape player and why not listen to the Quick on it? I don't get the backlash against tapes in general. pretty sure no band i'm ever going to like is ever going to be some "cassette" band (???) and it's not like the people I know with cars have nice cars so why can't I listen to a goddam tape in car? Or in my room, as I am wont to do when cleaning it. It's not like these guys are in any way ripping anyone off at any level and they have a sick record store with good-ass prices. I dunno why but I get really confused when people hate burger, yeah cute shit is dumb but you guys liked the vivian girls for goddsake
you are totally correct about ipod boom boxes and old cars, and obviously i support and profit from the tape resurgence to some extent, just wanted to add that a tape adapter is available at discount stores for $5 to connect any mp3 player to any cassette deck.
fuck buying an mp3 boombox, i went to the thrift store and got an 80s cassette boombox for $3, nobody would steal it, who cares if it breaks? been using it all summer, bringing it all over with me, loud as hell.
same goes for a car stereo. why would i buy a new radio when i can rock the one it came with from the factory 20 years ago and crank my mp3s through those factory speakers via cassette adapter???
best of both worlds, and i still make comp tapes off vinyl and buy new and used tapes regularly.
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I don't hate Burger, that's just some silly shit for kidz. It's just goofy that peepl like tapes now, 'cos they were never any good in the first place. It'z LOLz to me IMHOMO that the market for "indie" tapez is ten times bigger now than it was twenty years ago, when tapes actually existed and normal human beings with normal lives played 'em 'cos they couldn't afford CDs or CD playaz in they carz, and musicians couldn't afford to make CDs for cheep. That's what tapes was in 1992, FYU.
or 2002 if you were me or any of my friends. first time i could afford a computer and get on the internet was 2004...
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
that does sound like some bullshit. also, considering their volume of releases its almost undefensible that they are 100% LACKING in Officer Brad X...
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Tape War!
i'm starting a fucking 8-track cassette label any interest?
bands get in touch...
Not funny for a lot of reasons, including just not very funny (sorry) but especially because it's been done a number of times already.
one of the reasons is the same joke has been made every time this conversation arises. another reason is that 8 tracks flat out suck. cant rewind, are prone to breakage, etc. its a dead format because it sucks. cant say the same for cassette. they are durable and versatile, players are still everywhere and most of them still work.
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
I wish you were standing in front of me so I could beat the ever loving piss out of you right now. Motherfucker you are one to talk. How about not responding to emails and being a bitch and going back on deals you made with other labels? You are the biggest shithead in the business. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!! You know nothing about Burger records or really anything else. You are a rich kid who got lucky with some releases and that's it.
EAT A FOSSILIZED DINOSAUR DICK!!!!!!!
I already fucking explained to you before that TODD WENT AHEAD AND PRESSED THAT LENGUAS LARGAS LP WITHOUT TELLING ME and THEN SENT THE BILL. I PAID HIM BACK. WHAT THE FUCKIN HELL. ALSO...get your fucking facts straight. Call my credit card company and ask them how rich I am....a rich kid doesnt have like $15,000 in ALL LABEL RELATED DEBT. But thats how I roll to make shit happen. Ask them how much I owe to them. Ask my wife why I can't ever buy shit because everything I scrimp out of my life goes into putting out quality releases I care about. Ask Todd if I paid him back. THEN COME ON HERE AND REPORT YOUR FINDINGS.
I AM ONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS because they poach a ton of my shit. The same shit I am in debt for producing in the first place, is that shit they make cassettes a dime a dozen of. I know enough about Burger Records to know that bands keep emailing me with the same line of, "hey burger wants to do a tape...." and that when I ask them to TELL BURGER RECORDS TO CONTACT ME ABOUT IT they never do....then...eventually I just say fuck it do it.
todd has already told us over and over how you NEVER GAVE HIM A CENT and kept the records, and then FINALLY sent him the records back after months of hounding. Just so customers don't feel like you only do that to them.
do you own the recordings? you didn't own the lenguas recordings and never have given us any money for them or even for the records you have sold. Burger is a label run by excellent dudes, you are a shitmouth. They do more by booking FREE shows at their store and PAYING THE TOURING BANDS THAT PLAY THEM, then you do with all your releases that you will make until after you are dead and gone. Burger put out vinyl way before they ever put out tapes, and continue to and put out tons of bands that no one else does
PLASTIC BAG BABY IT UP MATT YOU FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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although I could give a flying fuck about 99.1% of the bands they release and I'm not down with the blowjobs and lollipops super happytime fun time hotdog pizza party garage vibe that scene gives off....honestly I don't get why people take to rag on Burger. People still play tapes. Hell my old car only had a tape player. I would blast Funhouse on tape every night and it still sounded great. So I get that there is a market for tapes, they're cheap, portable and sound relatively decent.
The whole culture of being snarky and ragging on everything is getting kinda old. Or maybe I'm just getting soft in my not-so-old age.
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For those of you who are unaware of what is going on here...Mr. BEEF has forced y hand into revealing a bunch of bullshit info to cleAR THE fart air. Mr. Beef is the guitarist of Isaac's band, LENGUAS LARGAS. I contacted Isaac and we did a 7". Then we were slated to do an LP. Then TODD from RECESS RECORDS contacted them and wanted to put it out. We all agreed it would be a cool co-release and then NOTHING REALLY HAPPENED AT ALL....LIKE FOREVER. Suddenly, the bill comes. I thought I'd ACTUALLY BE INVOLVED IN THE PRESSING seeing as YOU KNOW....I AM A LABEL DOOOOOINGGGG ITTTTTT. But no. Just a "hey its out now! Heres the bill!!!"
Needless to say, I DIDNT EXPECT THAT. Since Todd did it on his timeframe, I figured it wasnt too big of a deal if I paid him back on mine. And I DID PAY HIM BACK. For some reason Mark Beef has a massive stick up his ass for me taking a long time to pay back a dude who basically jumped in and took control of it and left me in the dark about things.
"nothing happened at all like forever"...does all the dinosaur dick you chug give you alzheimers? we, and todd, and you were all involved in the emails (you were a cc) about pressing the record, if you had no response or gave no input that's on you. if you have paid him back then you paid him within the last month or two and good for you if you did, somehow I doubt that though. public front. you were not in the dark about shit, THE BAND MADE THE DECISIONS ABOUT ARTWORK TRACKS RECORDINGS ETC. SORRY PHIL SPECTOR!!!!!!!!
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plenty of quality cassettes here, folks: http://www.discogs.com/seller/Heir_ick
GOD BLESS AMERICA
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TTT drove me from being a lazy lurker back into being a brazened hussy. BLAME HIM!!!!!
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
I wish you were standing in front of me so I could beat the ever loving piss out of you right now. Motherfucker you are one to talk. How about not responding to emails and being a bitch and going back on deals you made with other labels? You are the biggest shithead in the business. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!! You know nothing about Burger records or really anything else. You are a rich kid who got lucky with some releases and that's it.
EAT A FOSSILIZED DINOSAUR DICK!!!!!!!
I already fucking explained to you before that TODD WENT AHEAD AND PRESSED THAT LENGUAS LARGAS LP WITHOUT TELLING ME and THEN SENT THE BILL. I PAID HIM BACK. WHAT THE FUCKIN HELL. ALSO...get your fucking facts straight. Call my credit card company and ask them how rich I am....a rich kid doesnt have like $15,000 in ALL LABEL RELATED DEBT. But thats how I roll to make shit happen. Ask them how much I owe to them. Ask my wife why I can't ever buy shit because everything I scrimp out of my life goes into putting out quality releases I care about. Ask Todd if I paid him back. THEN COME ON HERE AND REPORT YOUR FINDINGS.
I AM ONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS because they poach a ton of my shit. The same shit I am in debt for producing in the first place, is that shit they make cassettes a dime a dozen of. I know enough about Burger Records to know that bands keep emailing me with the same line of, "hey burger wants to do a tape...." and that when I ask them to TELL BURGER RECORDS TO CONTACT ME ABOUT IT they never do....then...eventually I just say fuck it do it.
todd has already told us over and over how you NEVER GAVE HIM A CENT and kept the records, and then FINALLY sent him the records back after months of hounding. Just so customers don't feel like you only do that to them.
do you own the recordings? you didn't own the lenguas recordings and never have given us any money for them or even for the records you have sold. Burger is a label run by excellent dudes, you are a shitmouth. They do more by booking FREE shows at their store and PAYING THE TOURING BANDS THAT PLAY THEM, then you do with all your releases that you will make until after you are dead and gone. Burger put out vinyl way before they ever put out tapes, and continue to and put out tons of bands that no one else does
PLASTIC BAG BABY IT UP MATT YOU FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WRONG. I sent a PORTION of the records back WITH PAYMENT. Stop bending the facts and go ask Todd again cuz you don't know what's what clearly. First it was "he's a rich kid" who is debt up to his ears (admit you're wrong yet on that one Mark? NOPE), and now THIS is what story you come up with after everything resolves? I RESOLVED IT WITH TODD. You have NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
We did a simple split of copies btw. What makes you think I owe you any money for the records "I have sold"? Isaac got his cut. Todd got paid, and got records. I don't get why this all upsets you so much. And I never implied or sad that I owned the recordings. I SAID TODD CAME INTO THE PICTURE LAST MINUTE AND WANTED IN ON SOMETHING LL ALREADY COMMITTED TO WITH TTT. I WAS OK WITH THAT. EVEN IF ITS A LITTLE WEIRD. That doesnt imply "TTT owns shit". It STATES that having another label come in last minute is sorta...a little bullshit in some ways.
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I still love LL despite all this inflated balloon animal weirdness you are creating. The band has always been sick, and why wouldn't I still like LL... I was the first person to give a shit.
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
I wish you were standing in front of me so I could beat the ever loving piss out of you right now. Motherfucker you are one to talk. How about not responding to emails and being a bitch and going back on deals you made with other labels? You are the biggest shithead in the business. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!! You know nothing about Burger records or really anything else. You are a rich kid who got lucky with some releases and that's it.
EAT A FOSSILIZED DINOSAUR DICK!!!!!!!
I already fucking explained to you before that TODD WENT AHEAD AND PRESSED THAT LENGUAS LARGAS LP WITHOUT TELLING ME and THEN SENT THE BILL. I PAID HIM BACK. WHAT THE FUCKIN HELL. ALSO...get your fucking facts straight. Call my credit card company and ask them how rich I am....a rich kid doesnt have like $15,000 in ALL LABEL RELATED DEBT. But thats how I roll to make shit happen. Ask them how much I owe to them. Ask my wife why I can't ever buy shit because everything I scrimp out of my life goes into putting out quality releases I care about. Ask Todd if I paid him back. THEN COME ON HERE AND REPORT YOUR FINDINGS.
I AM ONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS because they poach a ton of my shit. The same shit I am in debt for producing in the first place, is that shit they make cassettes a dime a dozen of. I know enough about Burger Records to know that bands keep emailing me with the same line of, "hey burger wants to do a tape...." and that when I ask them to TELL BURGER RECORDS TO CONTACT ME ABOUT IT they never do....then...eventually I just say fuck it do it.
todd has already told us over and over how you NEVER GAVE HIM A CENT and kept the records, and then FINALLY sent him the records back after months of hounding. Just so customers don't feel like you only do that to them.
do you own the recordings? you didn't own the lenguas recordings and never have given us any money for them or even for the records you have sold. Burger is a label run by excellent dudes, you are a shitmouth. They do more by booking FREE shows at their store and PAYING THE TOURING BANDS THAT PLAY THEM, then you do with all your releases that you will make until after you are dead and gone. Burger put out vinyl way before they ever put out tapes, and continue to and put out tons of bands that no one else does
PLASTIC BAG BABY IT UP MATT YOU FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WRONG. I sent a PORTION of the records back WITH PAYMENT. Stop bending the facts and go ask Todd again cuz you don't know what's what clearly. First it was "he's a rich kid" who is debt up to his ears (admit you're wrong yet on that one Mark? NOPE), and now THIS is what story you come up with after everything resolves? I RESOLVED IT WITH TODD. You have NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
We did a simple split of copies btw. What makes you think I owe you any money for the records "I have sold"? Isaac got his cut. Todd got paid, and got records. I don't get why this all upsets you so much. And I never implied or sad that I owned the recordings. I SAID TODD CAME INTO THE PICTURE LAST MINUTE AND WANTED IN ON SOMETHING LL ALREADY COMMITTED TO WITH TTT. I WAS OK WITH THAT. EVEN IF ITS A LITTLE WEIRD. That doesnt imply "TTT owns shit". It STATES that having another label come in last minute is sorta...a little bullshit in some ways.
it was only in regards to Burger owing you something for putting out our tape. If you aren't laying claim to our album and having a problem with Burger putting it out on tape then I have no problem with you not owing us money. If however you are saying Burger owes you somehow for putting that tape out, WHICH IS CLEARLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT SOME BAND WHO'S RECORDINGS YOU PUT OUT, then yes I have a problem with your thinking and am calling you out on it. Todd did not come into the picture last minute. All this shit will get forwarded to Todd and Isaac and I'll post their responses soon. They both have left me with the impression that you are a dick and want nothing to do with you though
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Is there a dick in my brain or is everyone missing the obvious? Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too. I can also release a zillion cassettes a year for $100 for 100 copies. WHOA MAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THAT $$$$$ BACK?!!! They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
I wish you were standing in front of me so I could beat the ever loving piss out of you right now. Motherfucker you are one to talk. How about not responding to emails and being a bitch and going back on deals you made with other labels? You are the biggest shithead in the business. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!! You know nothing about Burger records or really anything else. You are a rich kid who got lucky with some releases and that's it.
EAT A FOSSILIZED DINOSAUR DICK!!!!!!!
I already fucking explained to you before that TODD WENT AHEAD AND PRESSED THAT LENGUAS LARGAS LP WITHOUT TELLING ME and THEN SENT THE BILL. I PAID HIM BACK. WHAT THE FUCKIN HELL. ALSO...get your fucking facts straight. Call my credit card company and ask them how rich I am....a rich kid doesnt have like $15,000 in ALL LABEL RELATED DEBT. But thats how I roll to make shit happen. Ask them how much I owe to them. Ask my wife why I can't ever buy shit because everything I scrimp out of my life goes into putting out quality releases I care about. Ask Todd if I paid him back. THEN COME ON HERE AND REPORT YOUR FINDINGS.
I AM ONE TO TALK ABOUT THIS because they poach a ton of my shit. The same shit I am in debt for producing in the first place, is that shit they make cassettes a dime a dozen of. I know enough about Burger Records to know that bands keep emailing me with the same line of, "hey burger wants to do a tape...." and that when I ask them to TELL BURGER RECORDS TO CONTACT ME ABOUT IT they never do....then...eventually I just say fuck it do it.
todd has already told us over and over how you NEVER GAVE HIM A CENT and kept the records, and then FINALLY sent him the records back after months of hounding. Just so customers don't feel like you only do that to them.
do you own the recordings? you didn't own the lenguas recordings and never have given us any money for them or even for the records you have sold. Burger is a label run by excellent dudes, you are a shitmouth. They do more by booking FREE shows at their store and PAYING THE TOURING BANDS THAT PLAY THEM, then you do with all your releases that you will make until after you are dead and gone. Burger put out vinyl way before they ever put out tapes, and continue to and put out tons of bands that no one else does
PLASTIC BAG BABY IT UP MATT YOU FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WRONG. I sent a PORTION of the records back WITH PAYMENT. Stop bending the facts and go ask Todd again cuz you don't know what's what clearly. First it was "he's a rich kid" who is debt up to his ears (admit you're wrong yet on that one Mark? NOPE), and now THIS is what story you come up with after everything resolves? I RESOLVED IT WITH TODD. You have NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
We did a simple split of copies btw. What makes you think I owe you any money for the records "I have sold"? Isaac got his cut. Todd got paid, and got records. I don't get why this all upsets you so much. And I never implied or sad that I owned the recordings. I SAID TODD CAME INTO THE PICTURE LAST MINUTE AND WANTED IN ON SOMETHING LL ALREADY COMMITTED TO WITH TTT. I WAS OK WITH THAT. EVEN IF ITS A LITTLE WEIRD. That doesnt imply "TTT owns shit". It STATES that having another label come in last minute is sorta...a little bullshit in some ways.
it was only in regards to Burger owing you something for putting out our tape. If you aren't laying claim to our album and having a problem with Burger putting it out on tape then I have no problem with you not owing us money. If however you are saying Burger owes you somehow for putting that tape out, WHICH IS CLEARLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT SOME BAND WHO'S RECORDINGS YOU PUT OUT, then yes I have a problem with your thinking and am calling you out on it. Todd did not come into the picture last minute. All this shit will get forwarded to Todd and Isaac and I'll post their responses soon. They both have left me with the impression that you are a dick and want nothing to do with you though
MOTHERFUCKER! I NEVER SAID BURGER OWED ME SHIT! God damn. I DIDNT EVEN KNOW BURGER WAS PUTTING OUT YOUR GOD DAMN TAPE. AND I DONT GIVE A FUCK. My issue was with the idea IN GENERAL about Burger swooping in on shit making tapes FROM A LABELS PERSPECTIVE. I am not asking for MONEY from BURGER or ANYBODY. Its NOT at all CLEARLY what Im SAYING because guess what IM NOT FUCKING SAYING IT. Im saying that in A HUMAN SENSE...A BASIC ETHICAL SENSE....BETWEEN LABELS....WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER ABOUT THE STRUGGLES OF MAKING BACK INVESTED $$$ ON VINYL RECORDS....THAT ITS KIND OF SHITTY TO SWOOP IN AND RE-RELEASE SHIT WITHOUT EVEN THE COMMON DECENCY TO DROP ME A LINE.
Thats also weird that you are so out of touch with your boys. Isaac was cool as fuck to me last time we talked as SXSW and was trying to get me high as fuck. Todd is also satisfied with the PAYMENT and the RECORDS I RETURNED.
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dude you are high as shit...that was years ago when you saw him at sxsw. in fact it was right after our album came out. since I saw todd last a couple months ago and Isaac 4 days ago their perspective of you has changed. hate to be the bearer of bad news
and yeah i realize you have no idea what you are typing and are just bv kxvlxsb;blsdhvkdsvkxdsbl s;n s;'njhblsdvgxdvxj xjnj;bhdlhglfhlfblhcvbhcvblfh bcdflkbcdflkhjbvfcklbcvl kcbv;hjkxdnjkbdflhbcdfc;jkblx;dbjh
to be an internet warrior
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we see them beedy little eyes maTTT
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My issue was with the idea IN GENERAL about Burger swooping in on shit making tapes FROM A LABELS PERSPECTIVE.
so lets be clear
a label who doesn't pay for the recordings, or give money to the bands for the records sold but simply pays(maybe as long as it wasn't a co-release and the other label paid for it all) for the records and covers to be made and then gives some of the records to the band is entitled to somehow have a say in another label putting said record out on a completely different format that the first label was not interested in doing at all. They should be able to get involved between Burger and said band? Or you just needed an ego massage of "hey man cool record. We talked to XYZ and they want to put it out on cassette as well so we're gonna do it"
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we see them beedy little eyes maTTT
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Why can no one get this quote right?
You forgot...
HUSTLER
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oh wait I get it cause people who buy a $5 cassette won't buy a $12 record. right! or they will save up to buy a $25 collectible tape on ebay instead of buying the vinyl version, and then you'll be sitting with a closet full of crap.
yeah FUCK BURGER RECORDS, WHO DO THOSE DUDES THINK THEY ARE WHEN YOU HAVE STRUGGLED TIRELESSLY FINDING ALL THIS HIP TALENT NO ONE ELSE KNEW ABOUT. seriously dude if I ever see you again you are getting straight up punched
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First of all, check your fucking self. I'm not taking issue with you, and you're putting words in my mouth. You're starting to piss me the fuck off dude. I never took issue with Lenguas Largas, or with you. And I never said SHIT about Burger paying me for your LL tape.
I never said shit about cassettes stealing record money from me. My issue with BURGER overall was about them simply RECYCLING. They don't release very much (if any) original releases. To me that just seems cheap. It doubles as an annoyance for me personally because I am somebody who ties a lot of money into new records for people. But now that u mention it...when somebody starts selling $5 tapes of it right away, it does feel sort of cheap. I'm sure from your perspective it will be good because you get free tapes out of the deal. If you invested a shit ton of $$$ into a few records and then saw some fucking label churning them out too, you'd probably be a little bit like ,"what the fuck man?!!"
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By the way I will be playing Goner Fest!!! I will see you there and you can act real tough and I can go "what the fuck ever I dont give a fuck" and then we can both type about it later.
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prepare yourself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUdfLl0zc7A)
and I hope this means you are in party bat, RICH KID!!!!!!!!
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Dude whatever. I'm not fighting anyone. You might be pissed off at the moment, but go back and re-read the shit I wrote. It makes sense. Why the fuck you are pissed at me right now is impossible for me to understand.
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http://www.burgerrecords.org/discog.htm
oh you'll be fighting or you'll be dreaming about a world where faggot californians aren't ripping you off
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MaTTT is in a band? Is it Party Bat? That LL full length is pretty ok too. Carry on.
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http://www.burgerrecords.org/discog.htm
oh you'll be fighting or you'll be dreaming about a world where faggot californians aren't ripping you off
does that even make sense? translate that shit.
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you will either be fighting me and standing your ground or you will be un fucking concious
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Why do you have an issue with me today?
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GOD LESS AMERICA
hey mark, i didn't know you were in lengua tacos. you got some fans in my shitty little town.
you also still never told me whether or not you're down with shark pants. i kinda like that shit!
and negative approach is playing in my shitty little town on friday. i should go, yeah?
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because you said a bunch of stupid shit about good guys and good friends of mine, you fucked other good friends of mine over in regards to deals and money and you have yet to apologize or act like anything but a fucking rich kid internet shithead
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A+ thread! Would read again!
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yes joe you should go
I'm not in lenguas tacos its my older uglier twin brother, and no I hate shark pants. Isaac Reyes who is in Shark Pants from Tucson (as well as used to be Swing ding Amigos)is no relation to the Isaac Reyes who is also in the band I'm not in mentioned previously also from Tucson where I don't live
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ok then, but if i go to see NA based on your "recommendation" and they rule i'm gonna beat the fuck out of you with matt's pinky toe in scottsdale new africa where i'll be vacationing last week.
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because you said a bunch of stupid shit about good guys and good friends of mine, you fucked other good friends of mine over in regards to deals and money and you have yet to apologize or act like anything but a fucking rich kid internet shithead
DUDE. I told you to TALK TO TODD. Everything I've read you say is basically you WORKING YOURSELF UP about some imaginary stuff I never even said....then ending sentences with "AH! IM GONNA PUNCH YOU!"
And I mentioned my issues about the concept of a label recycling other labels stuff on the regular. It's pretty lame man. Whether they are your good friends or not, I am entitled to an opinion on that. It's not the end of the world. And it has nothing to do with you. It's an opinion on TB.
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no, you really should go to NA and then scream EASY ACTION all set long
be prepared for lots of dumb new school little kid hardcore badasses though
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i saw the hookers in the same club with what is sure to be the same crowd a few months ago and the new breeds were fuckin nuts. big up to the punk rock hillbilly set.
but i was still the raddest dude in the pit.
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because you said a bunch of stupid shit about good guys and good friends of mine, you fucked other good friends of mine over in regards to deals and money and you have yet to apologize or act like anything but a fucking rich kid internet shithead
DUDE. I told you to TALK TO TODD. Everything I've read you say is basically you WORKING YOURSELF UP about some imaginary stuff I never even said....then ending sentences with "AH! IM GONNA PUNCH YOU!"
And I mentioned my issues about the concept of a label recycling other labels stuff on the regular. It's pretty lame man. Whether they are your good friends or not, I am entitled to an opinion on that. It's not the end of the world. And it has nothing to do with you. It's an opinion on TB.
nope reread your original comment in this thread that i replied to
then go take a gander at Burgers discography, then repeat your WRONG opinion ad infinitum and toughen up your jaw muscles
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big up to matt. i thought i was gonna hafta fight mark for years until he came along and diverted the spew.
matt k. shrugg lp > apple brains casette
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we can still fight. show up to gonerfest. the more the merrier, shitbreath
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buy me a plane ticket or fill my gas tank.punks ain't rich.
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because you said a bunch of stupid shit about good guys and good friends of mine, you fucked other good friends of mine over in regards to deals and money and you have yet to apologize or act like anything but a fucking rich kid internet shithead
DUDE. I told you to TALK TO TODD. Everything I've read you say is basically you WORKING YOURSELF UP about some imaginary stuff I never even said....then ending sentences with "AH! IM GONNA PUNCH YOU!"
And I mentioned my issues about the concept of a label recycling other labels stuff on the regular. It's pretty lame man. Whether they are your good friends or not, I am entitled to an opinion on that. It's not the end of the world. And it has nothing to do with you. It's an opinion on TB.
nope reread your original comment in this thread that i replied to
then go take a gander at Burgers discography, then repeat your WRONG opinion ad infinitum and toughen up your jaw muscles
I didn't say Burger repressed the entire TTT catalog though dude. That's the difference.
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I'll mail you a carboard sign saying" Memphis or Bust! GOOD ROAD HEAD!!!" and an adequate outfit
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also
sick post
The most offensive part about Burger is the fact they are flooding the market. I would probably love this record if I didn't, y'know, like good PUNK.
OK. Now I know you are kidding.
HA!
nvr 4get
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I don't get what this has to do with me? I only post on behalf of VD because he was banned.
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because you said a bunch of stupid shit about good guys and good friends of mine, you fucked other good friends of mine over in regards to deals and money and you have yet to apologize or act like anything but a fucking rich kid internet shithead
DUDE. I told you to TALK TO TODD. Everything I've read you say is basically you WORKING YOURSELF UP about some imaginary stuff I never even said....then ending sentences with "AH! IM GONNA PUNCH YOU!"
And I mentioned my issues about the concept of a label recycling other labels stuff on the regular. It's pretty lame man. Whether they are your good friends or not, I am entitled to an opinion on that. It's not the end of the world. And it has nothing to do with you. It's an opinion on TB.
nope reread your original comment in this thread that i replied to
then go take a gander at Burgers discography, then repeat your WRONG opinion ad infinitum and toughen up your jaw muscles
I didn't say Burger repressed the entire TTT catalog though dude. That's the difference.
who's putting words in who's mouth now?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diFDBNNmnnU
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because you said a bunch of stupid shit about good guys and good friends of mine, you fucked other good friends of mine over in regards to deals and money and you have yet to apologize or act like anything but a fucking rich kid internet shithead
DUDE. I told you to TALK TO TODD. Everything I've read you say is basically you WORKING YOURSELF UP about some imaginary stuff I never even said....then ending sentences with "AH! IM GONNA PUNCH YOU!"
And I mentioned my issues about the concept of a label recycling other labels stuff on the regular. It's pretty lame man. Whether they are your good friends or not, I am entitled to an opinion on that. It's not the end of the world. And it has nothing to do with you. It's an opinion on TB.
nope reread your original comment in this thread that i replied to
then go take a gander at Burgers discography, then repeat your WRONG opinion ad infinitum and toughen up your jaw muscles
I didn't say Burger repressed the entire TTT catalog though dude. That's the difference.
who's putting words in who's mouth now?
Oh, I thought you were pissed off at some kinda weird insinuation that they might have repressed a ton of my shit. My bad on that. Looks like there has been a LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING ON BOTH OF OUR PARTS to say the least Mark.
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No, you are high and dumb as shit, I understood your bullshit completely it's just unfounded and delusional and you know PUNCHABLE OFFENSES in my eyes
DID YOU FUCKING GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm talking about VINYL releases though up there. My opinion of their label's hype level as compared to their level of vinyl churned out is iffy. That's my point. I don;t know why you are so incredibly in love with Burger Records that you can't deal with a simple opinion like that about them without goign "hey! we're gonna fuckin fight man!!"
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Burger Records is something worth bitching about for the plain and simple reason that they are STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING. Wow, they put on SHOWS. BIG DEAL DUMBASSES. I can PUT ON A SHOW for free too.....They bank on labels like me putting out good shit on ACTUAL VINYL and ACTUALLY GIVING A FUCK...ACTUALLY TAKING A RISK...and then they go behind my back (and tons of other labels' backs too) and just swoop in AFTER A BAND GETS POPULAR and asks them directly if THEY WANNA DO A TAPE VERSION ON BURGER. It's a lame move because it makes the entire substance of "Burger Records" basically being some retarded glorified TAPE COLLECTOR who collects OTHER PEOPLES RELEASES onto a few tapes and then calls themselves a fucking label. Give me a break. They MIGHT be changing their "business model" now....now that they've sold 2,500 KING TUFF REISSUED TAPES....but this model I described is pretty much the ESSENCE and the CORE of what the fuck BURGER "RECORDS" (HOLY FUCK, CAN I GET EXTRA QUOTES WITH THAT>>???????!!!) actually was. I really don't care that someone releases a ton of tapes...but that;s not what this is. This is straight up taking credit for everyone elses good taste/sense of what the fuck is going on...then paying some measly investment and treating EVERYTHING like a minor task to get done with NO LOVE FOR IT. Its like a race to get tapes done....like they are little scene cred points. "Oh cool, got another point for being on top of that trend now!" TAPES ARE FINE. JUST FIND YOUR OWN BANDS, RECORD NEW MUSIC, MAKE NEW ART, AND PROMOTE IT YOUR GOD DAMN SELF YOU FUCKING CA FAGGOT LEECHES.
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If you just add one line about how they HAVE ALSO RELEASED MANY ORIGINAL CASSETTES TOO...I don;t see where any of the core facts of that post are WAY OFF BASE. I have explained all this shit in later posts. These are reasonable issues man.
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98% of the people posting in this thread need to get a fucking grip. Maybe take a year off from "collecting" or releasing music. RELAX. Realize how much of your life you spend worrying about what other people do(that's not hurting ANYBODY).
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you are a fucking idiot Matt. its ok, but you will get to get punched for being an idiot. quit worrying it will be over in seconds and will hardly scar your male model looks. you will still be able to make tens of dollars at the greyhound station chugging dinosaur cock.
yes Burger has never put out vinyl, Im pretty sure they didn't even know what that was until recently. also all those bands on their discography page has been put out by other better labels who are actually IN LOVE WITH THE SCENE AND NOT JUST POACHERS
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See Mark....everyone takes huge dumps on labels. Look at Sprague. Motherfucker has been busting my chops for years.
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keep typing, I'll keep punching. Sprague if you send me $20 US I will mail you a lenguas largas album with a special MaTTT blood splattered cover
for real 100%
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See Mark....everyone takes huge dumps on labels. Look at Sprague. Motherfucker has been busting my chops for years.
i guess it's better than being ignored.
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Lively Saturday Afternoon in Memphis!
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get adny kauffman in the ring!
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hells yes...this will be even better than the octopus dunk tank
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That Swing Ding Amigos LP is rad.
huh?
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"The story is as old as Gangbang Gordon himself: after several discussions with major labels (you'll be the face of the '10s outsider rock revival', 'can you make an organic hip-hop beats record,' 'we'll front you mad bills for a studio re-recorded triple album) musician X inks a deal with the subsidiary label of an international underground behemoth. So the story goes with Gangbang Gordon...I'm Not A Musicianwill definitely scare some folks, but it might just charm a few in its 'one-man-has-fun-with-more-instruments-than-chords-he-actually-knows' glory"
Access To The Gangbang: $10, one-time fee
The Gangbang
, a premium club that will receive Gangbang Gordon songs, vinyl, merchandise, and other treats from time to time"
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Dude whatever. Im not pissed at Mark in the first place, and he's 400 pounds. WHAT A TOUGH GUY. Im not gonna fight a motherfucker for no reason who could obviously kick my ass
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64iXiecloDM
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and I HAIL FROM LANDS UNKNOWN
off to practice to whip up a new ditty called "Matt Clark Chugs Cock In The Dark". I mean to watch my brother write that.
smoooches, TTT
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This thread reminds me of the old wild west Termbo.
And No I will not stop chiming in, melvin.
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both swingdings albums are great, so is the shark pants lp and 7"s and alot of the stuff on TTT and Burger
VIOLENCE IS THE BEST THOUGH
blood and feces
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Access To The Gangbang: $10, one-time fee
The Gangbang
Can't wait!!!
Is this on the Wiener Tape?!?!?!
http://youtu.be/4JU9EhknuY0 (http://youtu.be/4JU9EhknuY0)
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BR@DXX tapes on demand should hook-up w/ Burger
http://blip.tv/getdrunkplayrecords/mc-monkey-and-ape-with-attitude-3239392 (http://blip.tv/getdrunkplayrecords/mc-monkey-and-ape-with-attitude-3239392)
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Dolby Crash - tape punk sensations. Raw Maxell fury.
Cassette is called Lose Your Mind and Rewind.
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you really should, Officer Officer Brad
DOLBY CRASH - highpoint...lock thread
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Currently deep in the analog trenches trying to broker a deal between the moguls at BURGER and the taste-makers at Tic Tac Totally.
Dolby Crash wants to make sure their art is presented exactly how they want it.
Look out for the cassingle "I've Only Got 60 Minutes (To Love You)" b/w "Don't Break My Tapeover Thing (slight return."
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fuck buying an mp3 boombox, i went to the thrift store and got an 80s cassette boombox for $3, nobody would steal it, who cares if it breaks? been using it all summer, bringing it all over with me, loud as hell.
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Tape War!
i'm starting a fucking 8-track cassette label any interest?
bands get in touch...
Not funny for a lot of reasons, including just not very funny (sorry) but especially because it's been done a number of times already.
one of the reasons is the same joke has been made every time this conversation arises. another reason is that 8 tracks flat out suck. cant rewind, are prone to breakage, etc. its a dead format because it sucks. cant say the same for cassette. they are durable and versatile, players are still everywhere and most of them still work.
I still have mixtapes I made in fucking 8th grade that I listen to.
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The Gangbang
Can't wait!!!
Is this on the Wiener Tape?!?!?!
http://youtu.be/4JU9EhknuY0 (http://youtu.be/4JU9EhknuY0)
You betcha ! Song # 4
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THEE MAKEOUT PARTY was thee best band when they were active!
This show is where I head over heels fell in love with them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjPiOpR3jYw&feature=share&list=UUitdeajP2N8IPWlbyevU5Bg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjPiOpR3jYw&feature=share&list=UUitdeajP2N8IPWlbyevU5Bg)
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Kinda pissed there's not a song called "KLYAM #1" to be honest.
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THEE MAKEOUT PARTY was thee best band when they were active!
This show is where I head over heels fell in love with them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjPiOpR3jYw&feature=share&list=UUitdeajP2N8IPWlbyevU5Bg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjPiOpR3jYw&feature=share&list=UUitdeajP2N8IPWlbyevU5Bg)
Holy shit, I heard "mask on" in that.
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Country AND Western
http://youtu.be/dsNkLET6BGg?t=6s (http://youtu.be/dsNkLET6BGg?t=6s)
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And to think I've only been getting on here recently to look at the breaking bad thread and rub a few out on the big butt thread...
Mark's twin brother has records?
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Will somebody put out Box of Feelings on cassette?
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He's got a bunch of records. He's got the Grease, Saturday Night Fever and Urban Cowboy sndtrks. He's got the Led Zeppelins and the Bostons records. He has some weird punk shit like Fabulous Poodles and the Swimming Pool Qs. He's got tons of stuff none of you ever heard of like Jandek and Zamfir.
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Swimming Pool Qs! "Rat Bait!"
No DOLBY CRASH but a cool song
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BR@DXX tapes on demand should hook-up w/ Burger
http://blip.tv/getdrunkplayrecords/mc-monkey-and-ape-with-attitude-3239392 (http://blip.tv/getdrunkplayrecords/mc-monkey-and-ape-with-attitude-3239392)
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i am going to come to gonerfest this year and beat you ALL up.... you had better get in line.
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I'll be the one wearing MaTTT's face as a mask and using bazooka joe's arms to beat you senseless. Bring it you Fucking vegetable.
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i am going to make myself into a tape cassette bowling ball and there is going to be garage rock/punk personalities flying everywhere like vinyl skittles.
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Of course you want there to be a Fucking multi colored vinyl rainbow for you to taste, freakjob.
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also
sick post
The most offensive part about Burger is the fact they are flooding the market. I would probably love this record if I didn't, y'know, like good PUNK.
OK. Now I know you are kidding.
HA!
nvr 4get
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I don't get what this has to do with me? I only post on behalf of VD because he was banned.
I think he's just trying to make the point that Francis Harold and the Holograms were a shitty band.
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Oh, and TheKLYAM is dead to me.
Fuck that guy.
Who wants to make an I HATE THEKLYAM t-shirt?
"Musta been some bad clams."
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While we are talking about sending records, my buddies Ville and Mikko are still waiting for their TTT packages dude! (or refunds..) :P
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anyone who needs packages from TTT tell me and I will be going to dude's house and collecting. I will be in Chicago for a day besides Gonerfest
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Just for the record. I am not staking any claim to Marks music, or Lenguas Largas' music. Never have. If I did think that I owned Marks music, you know what I would have said? I would have said, "I own Marks music....they should PAY ME MONEY". But you didn't hear that. You know why you didn't hear that? Because I didn't say that. Because I never meant that. Didn't even know you were doing a tape of it Mark. I was taking a short internet piss about Burger for a second, and yeah, it got pretty heavy on the TB-typical slams. Nothing to do with Mark, or his band, or his music, or his tape (???? is there a tape? Hey, go for it man, IT'S YOUR MUSIC).
When I took a shit, I was referring to the handling of reissues of the Moonhearts, So Cow, and Useless Eaters material, because by the third time it happened, it just felt kind of shitty. Nobody there had cared enough to consider the original label in the equation (NOT finaicially! This is where you misunderstood what I meant!). I do NOT want a cut of anything...I DO NOT WANT ANY MONEY!!! I don't even want an ego massage of "hey massa, can we do dis?!! PLEEEZ MASSA?!!!?". No man, I don't OWN it, and I don't ultimately care what the bands do with their recordings. What I meant, and what I later clarified is...I thought it would be a basic gesture of respect...something nice to see, but not necessary I guess. To just go ask the original label if you can press it on tape. It isn't something crucial. It's just nice after the third time or so...when I spend all my time promoting records and paying for all the manufacturing and ads and shit, plus countless hours of writing descriptions, doing artwork for lots of folks, and just generally giving a fuck. Maybe I can like....know what is going on?!
I WILL give you this though....I was out of line on saying booking shows is easy and/or something to scoff at. That is something to commend anyone for doing to help any bands. Even tape labels who my general opinion of is very low for a variety of other reasons.
All this stuff about Todd not being paid back...I guess I can't blame you for being mad. It's not your fault because you didn't know I guess. You are just misinformed and late to the party not knowing what happened is all. I emailed both Todd and Isaac last night. Hopefully Todd will let you know that I paid him back for the LL LP co-release. It evened out with payments made in yes, both ACTUAL MONEY and some remaining copies too. Seriously, go ask Todd about that...PLEASE! I think you might settle your nerves a little by finding out some of this information. I tried to explain this to you last time it came up on TB too.
That is by far, the single most fucked up release I have ever been involved with by the way...in terms of production. The release is great, but the whole assembly was NOT my norm. I hate co-releases because I never have a good enough knowledge of what anyone is doing and I'm a disorganized guy always drowning in a sea of shit to do for the label. Sure I admit there are aspects of communication I should have handled better after all is said and done. But that doesn't mean I didn't resolve the issue already with Todd and figure it out though. I did. If you still don;t believe any of this, there is literally a third party mediator who was involved who can verify everything that happened just like I said it happened Mark. In light of all of this, for some reason you claim that I somehow "fucked over your friends" which is so not true. The fact is I haven't done anything except moan on TB about Burger. You come at it from this integrity integrity integrity, stand up and be a man stance, but if anything, you have put more words into my mouth, and made more false claims about what I am supposedly thinking without knowing any of the facts straight first. That's fine though, and I chalk it up to basic internet bullshit. I just wanted to set the record straight on all of the shit you mentioned because it's not the case for most of it.
And look, I'm not very good at management, business acumen, etc etc, I just consider myself a fan of great music and I have tried to push as much quality stuff out as I could help at any given time to do (probably just like BURGER RECORDS even Mark...you know...the ones you are defending so hard). That?s my mindset. I know I have my faults (shipping sucks). But this is way overboard and from a single bitchy post.
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Pop-punk'd.
Harsh.
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This thread reminds me of the old wild west Termbo.
Speaking of which, I heard that Mark Beef got shot at a show once, and the guy who shot him is dead now. Confirm, Beef?
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This thread reminds me of the old wild west Termbo.
Speaking of which, I heard that Mark Beef got shot at a show once, and the guy who shot him is dead now. Confirm, Beef?
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sssssshhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
loose lips, bro
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from todd c(who doesn't know anything about this thread) "yea we "settled". It took forever and was the worst collecting of money that i've ever had to deal with. and i've dealt with some shady ass distributors in my life. its kinda a long story (i told isaac) but i knocked a few hundred bucks off and all the sudden he paid me. total bullshit but i just got to a point where i felt that he was never going to pay me so anything was good."
I apologize for making it seem like you hadn't FINALLY settled, Matt, but my sentiment is still there. YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO TYPE OR TALK IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM LIKE THE ARBITER OF GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICES FOR RECORD LABELS!
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from todd c(who doesn't know anything about this thread) "yea we "settled". It took forever and was the worst collecting of money that i've ever had to deal with. and i've dealt with some shady ass distributors in my life. its kinda a long story (i told isaac) but i knocked a few hundred bucks off and all the sudden he paid me. total bullshit but i just got to a point where i felt that he was never going to pay me so anything was good."
I apologize for making it seem like you hadn't FINALLY settled, Matt, but my sentiment is still there. YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO TYPE OR TALK IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM LIKE THE ARBITER OF GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICES FOR RECORD LABELS!
Ok now THAT LAST PART is fair. And if that's what you meant the whole time then yeah I apologize for being a shit about that definitely. It just sounded like you were saying I never paid Todd
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I just consider myself a fan of great music and I have tried to push as much quality stuff out as I could help at any given time to do (probably just like BURGER RECORDS even Mark...you know...the ones you are defending so hard).
oh but wait...Burger records aren't fans of music, in fact they have no love for it at all. They are just, what was it, oh yeah " STYLE/SUBSTANCE POACHERS. They invest NOTHING into ANYTHING."
keep backtracin' guy. I got the cyber police on the case.
and no Todd hadn't told me that you had paid him back so I was pissed about that AS WELL AS you being a shitlord and acting like you somehow had ground to stand on and tell anybody about integrity or honesty or anything else when it came to running a record label. Like I said Im glad you did pay him back (although he says right there that he had to knock off a couple hundred dollars so not all of it, huh?) but you took forever and were shitty about it and still suck.
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Todd contacted his lawyer to suggest me paying him back something like $500 instead of $700. It was Todd who made the offer to do that, and I also gave him copies to sell. This whole Burger thing is a simple opinion about tape releases that's it.
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sorry Mr Weasel the sentence has been passed
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It WAS completely stupid of me to talk about Burgers contributions to music. As Mark pointed out they do release plenty of original cassette releases too. But i think my main apology owed is to everyone reading this shit because I certainly dont have the room to talk about another labels business side either. Sometimes I am way too close to my own fucking self to see the problem. Mark does make a good point: I have no room to talk shit and so I apologize for slamming the business ethics and contributions to music that Burger has made.
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WOOOOO LAST MINUTE REPRIEVE FROM THE GOVERNOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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contributions to music that Burger has made.
Right up there with Stravinsky, or Miles Davis.
Does John Cage have a tape on Burger?
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pharcyde does....FUCK YOU!!!
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That's pretty dope.
They should do all the Freestyle Fellowship records.
After all, the only thing that sounds better coming out of a boombox than hardcore is hip-hop.
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They're also doing the Pussy Riot cassingle. And Pet Sounds.
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pharcyde does....FUCK YOU!!!
two pharcyde tapes, even. i've got bizarre ride ii and just ordered the other yesterday, based on the strength of this thread.
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Nothing worse than a fucking bully.
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Nothing worse than a fucking bully.
unless it's a WOOLY BULLY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHF558u6Q_8)
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I have no room to talk shit and so I apologize for slamming the business ethics and contributions to music that Burger has made.
Apology accepted! xoxo
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Just for the record. I am not staking any claim to Marks music, or Lenguas Largas' music. Never have. If I did think that I owned Marks music, you know what I would have said? I would have said, "I own Marks music....they should PAY ME MONEY". But you didn't hear that. You know why you didn't hear that? Because I didn't say that. Because I never meant that. Didn't even know you were doing a tape of it Mark. I was taking a short internet piss about Burger for a second, and yeah, it got pretty heavy on the TB-typical slams. Nothing to do with Mark, or his band, or his music, or his tape (???? is there a tape? Hey, go for it man, IT'S YOUR MUSIC).
MARK BEEF PLEASE DON'T HIT ME
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hahahahahahahaha
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just to be clear this was never about "my music". it was about someone talking shit beyond "I think so and so band sucks or that label is no good cause they release crap" and more a direct attack on the motives and attitudes of some guys who actually are some of the sweetest people you will meet.
call me a bully, call me an internet tuff guy, call me a loudmouthed fool but that kind of shit coming from someone who's own shit is questionable does not make me happy
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some guys who actually are some of the sweetest people you will meet.
there's no better description of the burger boys. nothing but love.
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I'm fucking Ricky Linderman in My Bodyguard
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oh you'll be fighting or you'll be dreaming about a world where faggot californians aren't ripping you off
Come on dude! Faggots and Californians have nothing to do with it!
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was just using TTT's words. I apologize sam from claremont
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Obviously people who live in California or happen to be homosexual aren't bad people for that. So yeah, sorry about that language. My whole post was over the top.
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Will you just take a punch from Beef already and stop back tracking. Fuck he will probably be so outta breath just putting down Gus's Chicken it won't even phase your scrawny little ass
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Love me some burger boys
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Obviously people who live in California or happen to be homosexual aren't bad people for that. So yeah, sorry about that language. My whole post was over the top.
Your posts are enjoyable BECAUSE they're over the top. Or inspired. Or something like that. Put anyone under a microscope and it turns out they're full of shit in some way. Fuhgettaboutit.
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I would be a giant hypocrite if I were to have a problem with TTT's posts because they were "over the top". I had a problem with this particular one cause it was a smear and not true.
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Obviously people who live in California or happen to be homosexual aren't bad people for that. So yeah, sorry about that language. My whole post was over the top.
Your posts are enjoyable BECAUSE they're over the top. Or inspired. Or something like that. Put anyone under a microscope and it turns out they're full of shit in some way. Fuhgettaboutit.
It's true that my original post was out of line. Over the top delivery is fine, but I didn't KNOW the Burger folks and their intent. I actually do thank Mark for checking me on my bullshit in that way by literally forcing me to look at his point long enough for me to get it.
Also, there's something heavier tugging at me that makes me feel way differently about life in general. I am not the same dude I used to be and this has taught me a good lesson. I just had a daughter and I love her more than anything in the world, and when I think about her daddy being a dipshit on TB it actually just makes me sad, and makes me want to change my fucking life man. Last night I was ignoring her to type responses on a messageboard to this thread....that's terrible. That makes me feel like an idiot more than anything, as if all this wasn;t enough evidence that sometimes I should just check my own ass. So it WAS a learning experience. Talk all the shit you want about back-tracking.
My main goal in the next two months or so is to just wrap up some great releases I have in the pipe, send off the last orders (I actually shipped a SHITLOAD this week btw) and then maybe just go on indefinite hiatus with TTT. This shit is too stressful, and I would seriously rather be with my little girl just handling my life. In general, I'm tired, fed up, not willing to really continue making records until I'm fucking 90...shit man. That stuff is for some people....but not for me. Or maybe I'm just bummed about all of this drama. Well, I know I'm bummed about that shit....but it is deeper than that. The strange thing is that right now I have the best releases I have been fortunate enough to handle in the pipe at this exact moment...so I will finish it out, and I went to the post office three times this week so hey. But by and large, this shit is just not meshing with my mindset on life anymore, and its breaking my attitude down. This fall will hold some excellent shit, and then I'll just probably keep some things in print and function in that capacity if at all. In case anyone cared.
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while all that bs has been said; burger has been nice to me. they let me come to their store and drink beer while watching bands play for free (which is a rarity in southern california). they have some decent records for sale that are moderately priced. plus all the guys who work there are genuinely nice, and i'm assuming most people who post here haven't even met them. i'm going to check out bands and shop there indefinitely.
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Obviously people who live in California or happen to be homosexual aren't bad people for that. So yeah, sorry about that language. My whole post was over the top.
Your posts are enjoyable BECAUSE they're over the top. Or inspired. Or something like that. Put anyone under a microscope and it turns out they're full of shit in some way. Fuhgettaboutit.
It's true that my original post was out of line. Over the top delivery is fine, but I didn't KNOW the Burger folks and their intent. I actually do thank Mark for checking me on my bullshit in that way by literally forcing me to look at his point long enough for me to get it.
Also, there's something heavier tugging at me that makes me feel way differently about life in general. I am not the same dude I used to be and this has taught me a good lesson. I just had a daughter and I love her more than anything in the world, and when I think about her daddy being a dipshit on TB it actually just makes me sad, and makes me want to change my fucking life man. Last night I was ignoring her to type responses on a messageboard to this thread....that's terrible. That makes me feel like an idiot more than anything, as if all this wasn;t enough evidence that sometimes I should just check my own ass. So it WAS a learning experience. Talk all the shit you want about back-tracking.
My main goal in the next two months or so is to just wrap up some great releases I have in the pipe, send off the last orders (I actually shipped a SHITLOAD this week btw) and then maybe just go on indefinite hiatus with TTT. This shit is too stressful, and I would seriously rather be with my little girl just handling my life. In general, I'm tired, fed up, not willing to really continue making records until I'm fucking 90...shit man. That stuff is for some people....but not for me. Or maybe I'm just bummed about all of this drama. Well, I know I'm bummed about that shit....but it is deeper than that. The strange thing is that right now I have the best releases I have been fortunate enough to handle in the pipe at this exact moment...so I will finish it out, and I went to the post office three times this week so hey. But by and large, this shit is just not meshing with my mindset on life anymore, and its breaking my attitude down. This fall will hold some excellent shit, and then I'll just probably keep some things in print and function in that capacity if at all. In case anyone cared.
Dude...Matt, don't let the drama BS get to you that much. In the grand scheme of things it's not THAT big of a deal. When you're 40 you'll look back and laugh(hopefully sooner). Focus on raising and spending quality time with your little girl. That's what matters now.
Maybe take a break with the label if you feel the need. You obviously have a love for it. Is there anybody in your life who could help you with the label? A friend? Wife/gf? Relative?
You may regret saying what you did about the Burger Crew, but I don't think anybody truly thinks you're a bad guy. Also, you apologized and the apology was accepted. I personally respect the fact that you haven't given up(yet?) under all the pressure and negativity. A break though might be a smart choice, considering you're in debt what, $15grand did you say?? With a new baby you definitely don't need that, but I'm sure you're aware of that already.
Keep yer chin up.
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^yeah, agreed!
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^yeah, agreed!
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I enjoyed your posts, Matt. Don't beat yourself up over nothing. Being a dad should push one to be a better man, and it sounds like that's what's happened. But this isn't something worth berating yourself about.
As far as the whole music / TB / punkrawk thing... I've had the same thoughts: "this shit doesn't matter," etc. But it DOES! Music is important, and your kids will benefit from their dad doing something creative in his life, not just work a day job.
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^yeah, agreed!
Disagree. The older you get the MADDER you get over the pettiest of shits. I am so pissed at Loy right now for pretending to like INXS, I couldn't begin to explain . . .
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Obviously people who live in California or happen to be homosexual aren't bad people for that. So yeah, sorry about that language. My whole post was over the top.
Hey I was just kidding, just trying add some humor to an intense thread. Those Burger dudes are the shit, super friendly with a great selection and a cat for my kid too play with while I flip through the stacks.
On another killer note, that OBN III's record you released is one of the all-time great albums in my book, an instant classic. Job well done. And congrats on your daughter, just had one myself. Well my wife did, I paid the bill.
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^yeah, agreed!
Disagree. The older you get the MADDER you get over the pettiest of shits. I am so pissed at Loy right now for pretending to like INXS, I couldn't begin to explain . . .
Don't man hate -- mansturbate!
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I DEMAND THAT YOU PUNCH YOURSELF FOR LIKING SIMPLE MINDS RIGHT NOW, LOY!!!
and not one of those wimpy punches that you would have hit one of your friends with for hogging the Dragon's Lair game at the Funspot back in the day either, a REAL HE MAN PUNCH IN THE FACE
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I DEMAND THAT YOU PUNCH YOURSELF FOR LIKING SIMPLE MINDS RIGHT NOW, LOY!!!
and not one of those wimpy punches that you would have hit one of your friends with for hogging the Dragon's Lair game at the Funspot back in the day either, a REAL HE MAN PUNCH IN THE FACE
Endorsed and don't stop there.
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Funspot, holy shit.
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i would love to go there
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WORST LABEL EVER
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Sez the record flipper
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WORST LABEL EVER
Wow, great point. Thanks for your 2 cents.
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yes joe you should go
I'm not in lenguas tacos its my older uglier twin brother, and no I hate shark pants. Isaac Reyes who is in Shark Pants from Tucson (as well as used to be Swing ding Amigos)is no relation to the Isaac Reyes who is also in the band I'm not in mentioned previously also from Tucson where I don't live
Shark Pants is quite RAD
As is Lego Lardass.
As are cassettes.
POSI
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yes joe you should go
I'm not in lenguas tacos its my older uglier twin brother, and no I hate shark pants. Isaac Reyes who is in Shark Pants from Tucson (as well as used to be Swing ding Amigos)is no relation to the Isaac Reyes who is also in the band I'm not in mentioned previously also from Tucson where I don't live
Shark Pants is quite RAD
As is Lego Lardass.
As are cassettes.
POSI ASSHAT
fixed
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The first Simple Minds LP is good.
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http://www.hammacher.com/Product/82549
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The first Simple Minds LP is good.
Yes. And the second, Empires and Dance, is even better. They got better and better* with each successive record.
Settle a bet: I maintain that it is redundant and therefore incorrect to say, "increasingly more + (modifier)." Some disagree. What say you?
*I'm aware.
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I'm gonna punch the shit out of all of you
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Settle a bet: I maintain that it is redundant and therefore incorrect to say, "increasingly more + (modifier)." Some disagree. What say you?
I agree, but I'm sure I say such things anyway.
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The first Simple Minds LP is not good. Frank Holly and the Fullertones cassette is good.
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Johnny and the Self Abusers is decent. Whatever you lot are going on about deserves punches
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I've never heard of Frank Holly and the Fullertones, but how about Holly Johnson's second single post-Big In Japan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5mCZxfyCnk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5mCZxfyCnk)
I mean, what does "good" really mean anymore, anyway?
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Johnny and the Self Abusers is decent. Whatever you lot are going on about deserves punches
That 45 is better than "decent." I'd punch someone to it.
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saints and sinners is great, not sure about the other one. my wrist gets a little limp to that side
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i used to have a boot of that single never shoulda sold it!!!