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Title: US hate
Post by: kevin on April 08, 2018, 07:28:10 AM
Fuck the USPS United States and all who ride with it.

Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: frankie teardrop on April 08, 2018, 07:42:32 AM
Postal is the new Police.

B/W

Which Civil Service do you ride for? Medicare/Medicaid? Social Security? USDA?
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: vedicardi on April 08, 2018, 05:20:34 PM
the police are fuckin g rad
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: Spacecase Records on April 09, 2018, 08:19:03 AM
USPS rules. $3.50 to ship a record from one coast to the other via Media Mail. They're propping up the record game. Yes, I've had my issues with them. But without USPS I'd just shut the label down. Record sales are already dismal. Try doubling shipping costs domestically with a private courier. Ending net neutrality will be another destructive change.
USPS is getting screwed by a Bush-era pension funding scheme. It's largely why international postage has skyrocketed.
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: Adamyk on April 09, 2018, 08:56:24 AM
Fuck UPS, more like it. Rotten fuckers of the highest order. Fake duty/customs fees, shittiest service, insanely expensive and they force employees to wear those ridiculous uniforms, man!

International postage is a nightmare. From a Canadian that used to mailorder a TON of records, I can confirm, this has definitely hurt the industry. Postage is almost always more than the cost of the LP for a Canadian order now. Even our local post office is expensive - it costs less for me to order an LP from Germany than one mailed to me from my own city.
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: kevin on April 09, 2018, 09:08:43 AM
I just want my mail delivered and the mail I send out to reach it?s recipients. The neighborhood in which A person lives, and I?d wager, it?s racial demographics and property taxes, seem to effect ones perception of the usps?s reliability.
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: meanbean on April 09, 2018, 09:16:43 AM
Fuck UPS, more like it. Rotten fuckers of the highest order. Fake duty/customs fees, shittiest service, insanely expensive and they force employees to wear those ridiculous uniforms, man!

International postage is a nightmare. From a Canadian that used to mailorder a TON of records, I can confirm, this has definitely hurt the industry. Postage is almost always more than the cost of the LP for a Canadian order now. Even our local post office is expensive - it costs less for me to order an LP from Germany than one mailed to me from my own city.

1.Germany has become by far the place where i order the most.
2.Ordering a single LP from the USA has become almost impossible.
3. Why can't we have something like media mail in Canada too?
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: nick_ on April 09, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
USPS rules. $3.50 to ship a record from one coast to the other via Media Mail. They're propping up the record game. Yes, I've had my issues with them. But without USPS I'd just shut the label down. Record sales are already dismal. Try doubling shipping costs domestically with a private courier. Ending net neutrality will be another destructive change.
USPS is getting screwed by a Bush-era pension funding scheme. It's largely why international postage has skyrocketed.

10000x this. The privatization of the USPS was so fucking criminal, the pension scheme was just sadistic. The worst of all was probably the 90s rebranding though
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: Spacecase Records on April 09, 2018, 11:10:50 AM
If you don't want something to work, be it an organization, social good (social security) or service, defund it. That's what the Bush Administration did to USPS. I don't have the numbers handy, but the "Postal Accountability Act" forced USPS to fund something like 80% of their benefits for the next 75 years in a breakneck amount of time. It was totally unreasonable; no large private-sector employer does anything remotely similar. Observers believe it was done to break the USPS' labor union and to give privatized couriers a leg up. I think they're right. Anyhow, the plan is working perfectly as USPS branches are closing (including the venerable one in my hometown) and rates have been going up. Disaffection with USPS is probably at an all-time high. My friend works at USPS and it took him several years to transition from temp to USPS employee. They just don't have the resources anymore to hire on like they used to. Working for USPS was notoriously stress inducing, but it was a good job with benefits for people with a high school education and being a public-sector job (with budgetary controls beyond their grasp), had an employee diversity most private-sector employers lacked. 

I don't blame folks for not wanting to order internationally from the US. Rates are now obscene, although I'm willing to bet USPS is still cheaper than a private courier option. But that's what it is now. Labels on my level are now losing even more money -- $2 to $3k per year should be expected. I can take it or leave it most days.

My friends in NZ and AU have mentioned the return of 7"s due to lower shipping rates and less damage. That makes sense.

Congress has realized the Bush Act has backfired and are starting to come to terms with it, including forcing USPS to maintain delivery days for mail they've proposed ending. It's like health coverage in the US. They want a neoliberal/market-based option, but they can't come up with a viable one no matter how hard they try. The irony is USPS was profitable before the Postal Accountability Act. Again, I've had records crunched, one or two gone missing, but even a hindered USPS is better than the rest.
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: meanbean on April 09, 2018, 11:24:24 AM
My friends in NZ and AU have mentioned the return of 7"s due to lower shipping rates and less damage. That makes sense.

I don't know if its really the case, but i can say i have pretty much stopped ordering LPs from US or Overseas, unless i REALLY want it and focused only on singles since the last few years...
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: Spacecase Records on April 09, 2018, 11:34:54 AM
My friends in NZ and AU have mentioned the return of 7"s due to lower shipping rates and less damage. That makes sense.

I don't know if its really the case, but i can say i have pretty much stopped ordering LPs from US or Overseas, unless i REALLY want it and focused only on singles since the last few years...

Neither do I. It was just their own observations/gut feelings. 
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: kevin on April 09, 2018, 11:42:46 AM
This is another topic completely,  but how are 7"s going to come back when you can't make a profit on them even if you get cheaper shipping on 'em.

Right now it appears that USPS has lost a large mailing of about twenty orders. We go days without any mail service in our whole neighborhood. We get non-parcel mail undelivered and forever lost with no resolution from the USPS. Packages get lost too, sometimes they end up delivered weeks late, other times they are lost forever and the USPS can't seem to track them, which is insane considering all the tracking of chain of custody.

Maybe I'd feel better if I hadn't talked to many employees there, ones I know from talking to them on the clock, and the ones I know in my personal life. I know a record collector who is now a private contractor for the USPS and his big complaint is people using the service to send packages. Our local carriers big complaint is that when the mail doesn't get delivered for days to our neighborhood that they have too much mail to deliver. Boo fuckin' hoo.
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: kevin on April 09, 2018, 11:46:43 AM
I mean, Fuck the records. They lose time sensitive shit from the state and insurance and bills etc and that has significantly negative effect on people?s lives.


Don?t get me started on the recycling contractors.

It appears the cities just don?t care about poor neighborhoods.
Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: Spacecase Records on April 09, 2018, 11:49:32 AM
It's not a matter of making profits, Kevin. It's a matter of curtailing losses. 

The genesis of USPS can be found at the founding of this country. It will continue in one way or another. If privatized couriers were the only option, you'd really know shit service. That's why they piggyback off of USPS for rural deliveries. It's indirectly why USPS is running into major problems.

Title: Re: USPS hate
Post by: Spacecase Records on April 09, 2018, 11:54:32 AM
If you're interested in improving USPS' delivery service, Kevin, there are petitions floating around to ease the burden of their pension funding scheme. I've signed'em in the past. It's a lot more productive than posting your grievances on the Termbo board.
Title: Re: US hate
Post by: kevin on April 09, 2018, 12:07:53 PM
If you're interested in improving USPS' delivery service, Kevin, there are petitions floating around to ease the burden of their pension funding scheme. I've signed'em in the past. It's a lot more productive than posting your grievances on the Termbo board.

I wish I believed that signing petitions online would help improve conditions in the inner city, but I've signed those same petitions and here we are. I tried deleting my original post within' minutes, but the board don't allow it anymore. 
Title: Re: US hate
Post by: androo on April 09, 2018, 01:22:24 PM
...can i just add, fuck australia post and everything it stands for.
Title: Re: US hate
Post by: nuggetsvolume1 on April 09, 2018, 08:36:42 PM
"We go days without any mail service in our whole neighborhood"

Nuts! And yeah, what about bills, time sensitive paperwork that needs to be sent out, etc? Crazy.
Title: Re: US hate
Post by: pdxpaul on April 09, 2018, 09:34:58 PM
So how has Germany remained so reasonable? I've nearly given up ordering any new releases from the UK. The postage exceeds the cost of the record. I just mailed an LP to Canada today and it was 16$ which was shocking to me
Title: Re: US hate
Post by: suitor on April 12, 2018, 03:17:59 AM
US supports street art tho! I mean van-dal-izm  ;) I hate their prices. I don't give a fuck though. I just go in the place and take like 300 stickers and clear the bitch out and get the fuck outta there. I LOVE VANDALS!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: US hate
Post by: suitor on April 12, 2018, 03:24:08 AM
WE ONLY USE THE MAIL SYSTEM FOR STICKERS!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S ALL FUCKING FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! The purpose of the post office is to support fucking graff and artists. Fuck vinyl and business shit. I ain't into that. I'm into fucking damage! We got shit on practically every fucking pole, sign, etc around. Fuck you! Front/back. DON'T FUCKING CARE!!! BEST SPOT?? HIT IT!!! FUCK ALL AUTHORITY + FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!! x 1 MILLION!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: US hate
Post by: suitor on April 12, 2018, 04:07:08 AM
P.S. I don't know why but PDX (where I'm at at least) locks their doors up at night. I'm used to Vancouver Washington where they are open 24/7. Go anytime you like. But all I'm really saying is that there used to be a homeless (houseless) fellow who used to go to the library (600 NE 136th Ave, Vancouver, WA 98684) and then sleep on the bench inside the post office (304 SE Hearthwood Blvd, Vancouver, WA 98684) at night when it was winter / cold weather.