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Terminal Boardumb => Non-Music Shit => Topic started by: satanisrealagain on May 09, 2018, 10:43:04 AM
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I don't expect coherent answers on this. My answer would be NO! And moral relativism seems to drive terrorism in all aspects.
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Whenever they ask the Fat Man/Train question, I always think: this guy has already had a tough life, he's rotund. The two girls on the track are probably rich and beautiful...hasn't this man had enough pain?
On the serious tip: no. Hatred does not cease with hatred. I'm sure others will disagree. I would personally only kill another human in self-defense. Morality is pretty relative...but this is kind of a hardline. Define "terrorism", though: a brick through a window? Or actually killing people? One definition is the use of "violence or intimidation". Intimidation doesn't sound too, too bad.
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I feel like 'terrorism' is completely incompatible with any humane society or system.
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I would agree, I just want a working definition of "terrorism". Like:
Killing 12 people at a concert for your religious beliefs = no.
Hardline vegan kid throws rock through McDonald's window at 4 a.m. = meh.
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ter·ror·ism
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noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
my bold, i dont think violence against an abstract entity like a corporation is terrorism. probably, most definitely unlawful though.
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I would put my question into the context of socio-political terrorism, I suppose the endpoint of artistic or ideological terrorism would be when a life is lost. I have been wracking my brain trying to consolidate marxism and existentialism(Sartre was trying to do the same in Critique of Dialetical Reason, I would say he failed pretty miserably).
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I would agree, I just want a working definition of "terrorism". Like:
Killing 12 people at a concert for your religious beliefs = no.
Hardline vegan kid throws rock through McDonald's window at 4 a.m. = meh.
Yeah. Would agree.
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Yes, of course.
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I feel like 'terrorism' is completely incompatible with any humane society or system.
Show me a humane society or system.
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Fight back! When your minds on the rack and they're breaking your back. Fight back!
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Fight back! When your minds on the rack and they're breaking your backe. Fight back!
Yeah. No offense but I would say that type of thinking leads to social darwinist tendencies. I'm no right winger but I kinda can't buy into the sloganisms anymore.
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Hardline vegan kid throws rock through McDonald's window at 4 a.m. = meh.
yeah, but thats not terrorism, its vandalism. which can of course be political too. i went to court for it at age 12 it was definitely political statement.
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Hardline vegan kid throws rock through McDonald's window at 4 a.m. = meh.
yeah, but thats not terrorism, its vandalism. which can of course be political too. i went to court for it at age 12 it was definitely political statement.
Yeah I did the cliche "meat is murder" thing on the side of a McDonalds when I was 14. I was pretty damn into the classic "vegan hardcore" bands, Statement, RAID, Abnegation etc and took that Rudimentary Peni song "Pigs In A Blanket" reeeaallly fucking seriously. Too damn seriously.
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Hardline vegan kid throws rock through McDonald's window at 4 a.m. = meh.
yeah, but thats not terrorism, its vandalism. which can of course be political too. i went to court for it at age 12 it was definitely political statement.
Yeah I did the cliche "meat is murder" thing on the side of a McDonalds when I was 14. I was pretty damn into the classic "vegan hardcore" bands, Statement, RAID, Abnegation etc and took that Rudimentary Peni song "Pigs In A Blanket" reeeaallly fucking seriously. Too damn seriously.
yeah pretty much the same...'cept it was '74, vegans were most likely all 7th day adventist and even then probably only vegetarians. the only thing rudimentary was our dress sense and alvin stardust's 'my coo ca choo' whilst being a catchy tune, was difficult to take seriously.
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this thread really makes me think about karma and stuff man
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this thread really makes me think about karma and stuff man
Prefer to use the term eternal recurrence but yeah.
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I prefer the term Social Physics. Terrorism also happens to be proof of such a concept.
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Fight back! When your minds on the rack and they're breaking your backe. Fight back!
Yeah. No offense but I would say that type of thinking leads to social darwinist tendencies. I'm no right winger but I kinda can't buy into the sloganisms anymore.
Most of you are white middle-class, now it's time to preach to your ass...
https://youtu.be/NHfArgf4nAI?t=2m45s (https://youtu.be/NHfArgf4nAI?t=2m45s)
Watch, study, learn, repeat...
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I think it depends whether you're for or against the political aims of said terrorism. Most terrorism these days is done by angry religious racist right-wing white dudes, which always makes me think those guys are bigger, stupider assholes than I already do. However, if some militant group with a progressive political agenda were to start picking off corrupt politicians one by one, I'd think that was pretty fucking cool. In fact, I believe something along those lines will be necessary for the current paradigm in American politics/economics to change. Shit ain't gonna change until a few of these motherfuckers are "made an example of".
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Domestic terrorism lends itself to being co-opted and used by the secret service and the government to influence the public opinion and the political outcome can be horrible. The Years of Lead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)) were very bad for Italian politics, we're still suffering the consequences (also some of the right-wing terrorists from that era are still in positions of power right now).
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Domestic terrorism lends itself to being co-opted and used by the secret service and the government to influence the public opinion and the political outcome can be horrible. The Years of Lead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)) were very bad for Italian politics, we're still suffering the consequences (also some of the right-wing terrorists from that era are still in positions of power right now).
At the risk of being deeply offensively trite, much the same could be said about rock music.
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The west used rock music, including punk, to destabilize state socialism in Eastern Europe and Russia. No matter what your views are on communism or life in these countries during those times, it?s an unarguable fact that in the wake of the fall was epic bloodshed and social unrest, even genocide. Many rock and punk musicians in these countries have said that it was easier to be an artist before the fall of communism and many musicians became radical nationalists whose greatest enemy is the west.