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Terminal Boardumb => Pop Punk => Music Shit => Reatard => Topic started by: ZombieAppetizer on November 20, 2007, 02:06:47 PM
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So, last night at the Doll Hut in Anaheim, some drunk dude was dancing during Jay's set and kind of fell into Jay's guitar, so Jay proceeds to start bashing the guy over the head with it and was kicking the shit out of this guy while he was down. Instead of having the guy thrown out and keep playing, Jay and the rest of the band just pack up and take off. He played a 6 minute set and still got all the door money. He was kind of being a dick and pulling a rockstar attitude with Matty who promoted the show because he kept threatening to not even play before the flying v attack happened. What punk bands have a rider for their shows anyway?? He got nearly all the door money and had a hotel room already paid for and was still bitching about how it was a shitty venue (it is, but what hole in the wall bar isn't?), shitty crowd (they all came to see him, go figure) and how all the opening bands sucked (they didn't). This really sucks because I love the dude's music, but his behavior really rubbed alot of people the wrong way. Has anyone else experienced this??
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Wasn't there a thread on goner a while back about another flying v incident?
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the guy's a douche. case closed
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the guy's a douche. case closed
Cosigned.
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the guy's a douche. case closed
Did anyone ever not think punk rock's premier child star was anything but?
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I sense a storm of shit talking ahead, so do you guys have specific incidences or run-ins with him that back this up?? I didn't start this thread to just bash Jay, I just wanted to say what happened. I guess I'm just naive and assumed he would still be down to earth. The other guys with him (Boston Chinks) were all pretty cool.
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How come this isn't posted in the Jay Reatard section of the board? Oh wait, there is no Jay Reatard section on this board. Someone get on that.
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He's playing the absolute worst fucking bar on the face of the planet on Wednesday in Tucson, so he'd better suck it up.
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I sense a storm of shit talking ahead, so do you guys have specific incidences or run-ins with him that back this up?? I didn't start this thread to just bash Jay, I just wanted to say what happened. I guess I'm just naive and assumed he would still be down to earth. The other guys with him (Boston Chinks) were all pretty cool.
I'm a fan. I'm not picking on the guy or shit-talking, but shitty behaviour is shitty behaviour, and you don't get a pass just because you can write a good song. On the other hand, it doesn't really have nuch to do with liking the guy's music or not.
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Ok to clarify I had no problem with the bar .. I was excited to play such a small place... This is the deal... We showed up at 5 in the afternoon to be greeted by the owner who said there was no show.. We calledo"matty" "promoter" who never answered his calls so we left a message asking if the show was still on . We went back into the bar and begged the bar owner to let the show go on . He asked us who would be playing this show he knew nothing about so we gave him a list of the band names of the bands we knew were confirmed on the bill . At 10:00 with no call back we back to the bar and atleast 2 local bands that were not on the bill jumped on making a total of 6 bands ... I simply said since there was no show booked and we had to beg the owner to let anyone play that we and the strange boys (our support band) should be able to play when we wanted... After asking this... who shows up but drunk ass Matty talking shit and trying to instigate a fight between all the other bands and me.. So I said "fuck this I'm not gonna fucking hang out and be intimidated by a buncha fucking beach brains" Strange boys played while people all around talked about "beating there faggot asses " so yeah I wanted to leave I didn't feel like our gear or our band or van was safe... We decided to play and while loading up had beer dumped on us were called rockstar fags etc....Four songs in a guy who was trying to throw people into us our whole set fell on to my guitar breaking the input jack we kicked him of stage with our feet and he came at me so yeah I fucking gave it back to him 10 fold.. The first 2 bands got payed by the owner of the bar we gave the strange boys over half of our money. Just so you know we lost money this day with gas van etc....
I really regret how this show turned out... I really wanted to play but not in a fucking hostile environment. And when you are on the road for months and months on end is it to much to ask to have a sober responsible promoter who has his shit together run thing smoothly..?
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Jay, you might wanna do some damage control over at this runaway here...
http://board.vivalavinyl.org/?func=topic&id=39564&r=128
These are mostly kids that were obsessed by screamo throughout their teen years and now just got into a bar show for the first time. Some of your newest fans, I'd say.
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Those kids are hilarious! Law under the dictate of MRR! Heh.
They are pissed, though.
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I had a shit experience at that place as well.
Nobody knew the show was happening, drunk owner, promoter etc.
Least you got paid.
We played to a completely packed room and got 40 bucks I think.
If I remember correctly I was called a Yankee fag being from Pittsburgh.
And my wife was called a gook or chink or something being from Japan.
At least that made it worth it.
Hey, did get to watch the fireworks at Disneyland from the highway though.
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Ok to clarify I had no problem with the bar .. I was excited to play such a small place... This is the deal... We showed up at 5 in the afternoon to be greeted by the owner who said there was no show.. We calledo"matty" "promoter" who never answered his calls so we left a message asking if the show was still on . We went back into the bar and begged the bar owner to let the show go on . He asked us who would be playing this show he knew nothing about so we gave him a list of the band names of the bands we knew were confirmed on the bill . At 10:00 with no call back we back to the bar and atleast 2 local bands that were not on the bill jumped on making a total of 6 bands ... I simply said since there was no show booked and we had to beg the owner to let anyone play that we and the strange boys (our support band) should be able to play when we wanted... After asking this... who shows up but drunk ass Matty talking shit and trying to instigate a fight between all the other bands and me.. So I said "fuck this I'm not gonna fucking hang out and be intimidated by a buncha fucking beach brains" Strange boys played while people all around talked about "beating there faggot asses " so yeah I wanted to leave I didn't feel like our gear or our band or van was safe... We decided to play and while loading up had beer dumped on us were called rockstar fags etc....Four songs in a guy who was trying to throw people into us our whole set fell on to my guitar breaking the input jack we kicked him of stage with our feet and he came at me so yeah I fucking gave it back to him 10 fold.. The first 2 bands got payed by the owner of the bar we gave the strange boys over half of our money. Just so you know we lost money this day with gas van etc....
I really regret how this show turned out... I really wanted to play but not in a fucking hostile environment. And when you are on the road for months and months on end is it to much to ask to have a sober responsible promoter who has his shit together run thing smoothly..?
Why didn't you get in contact with Nat at Radiation Records?? It's 5 minutes away from the Doll Hut. Matty wasn't drunk, he had just gotten off work and I think he was just blown away by the 'tude he got and got PISSED (he's the nicest guy in the world, just don't get him mad). Also, most of the posters for the show I had seen had 5 of the 6 bands right there on it, Bad Marriage and the Neon Maniacs shared a set so it was only like 5 bands played anyway. The Pterodacdudes were the guys doing all the shit talking along with some of their friends. I thought everyone liked the Strange Boys (I did). It just sucks because there were still a lot of people (especially me) who were dying to see this show and I just feel cheated. I'll still buy your records, I'll probably still see you live again, but that was a shitty way to go out.
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I had a shit experience at that place as well.
Nobody knew the show was happening, drunk owner, promoter etc.
Least you got paid.
We played to a completely packed room and got 40 bucks I think.
If I remember correctly I was called a Yankee fag being from Pittsburgh.
And my wife was called a gook or chink or something being from Japan.
At least that made it worth it.
Hey, did get to watch the fireworks at Disneyland from the highway though.
It's gone through 5 owners in nearly as many years. Matty is the one trying to resurrect the place into a functioning venue (I guess he's got a lot of work ahead).
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there is some really funny shit being posted on that board...
this sounds like some '88-era dwarves shit! too bad they didn't have message boards back then.
the pterodacdudes????
p.s. i'm not really making fun of the situation, i'd be pissed if i saw something like that (assuming it happened like that) too.
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Jay, you might wanna do some damage control over at this runaway here...
http://board.vivalavinyl.org/?func=topic&id=39564&r=128
These are mostly kids that were obsessed by screamo throughout their teen years and now just got into a bar show for the first time. Some of your newest fans, I'd say.
Sure they're pissed off, but those accounts of what happened are pretty dead on.
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best thing i read on there so far:
"I was reading a pretty good essay not too far back about how the ICP and goth crowds are a fuckload more "punk" than the "punk" kids these days given social contexts and hierarchies, etc"
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the guy's a douche. case closed
i don't think it's fair to say something like that when you don't really know someone. jay is a good guy....so are all the chinks.
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I cant count on one hand how many people on this board know me beyond hear say....
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jay is a good guy....so are all the chinks.
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He's always been nice to me.
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I never had a problem with Jay until he threw his micstand into the audience at Southpaw and busted Arturo across the nose with it. It was just a really careless and stupid thing to do that showed a lack of regard for the audience. As for this latest thing, the only excuse to bash someone over the head with a guitar is if you fear for your safety.
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That show sounds alot better than the no show in Bellingham we drove down from Vancouver for.
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I never had a problem with Jay until he threw his micstand into the audience at Southpaw and busted Arturo across the nose with it. It was just a really careless and stupid thing to do that showed a lack of regard for the audience.
did you think you were at a celine dion concert or something? it's a punk show....shit happens....i doubt he tried to hurt arturo on purpose.
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yeah, doesnt really have anything to do w/ jay, but i dont see anything so bad bout a flying mic stand. its a punk rock show, shit happens. just look at that dwarves thread, all the stories bout their best shows include some sort of violence and/or chaos. maybe i just have a weird perspective from going to shows in cleveland.
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I never had a problem with Jay until he threw his micstand into the audience at Southpaw and busted Arturo across the nose with it. It was just a really careless and stupid thing to do that showed a lack of regard for the audience.
did you think you were at a celine dion concert or something? it's a punk show....shit happens....i doubt he tried to hurt arturo on purpose.
Yes, and I was thoroughly pissed that the Reatards didn't do her song from the "Beauty and the Beast" soundtrack.
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jay is a good guy....so are all the chinks.
tee hee hee
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I think Jay is a stand up guy.
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I never had a problem with Jay until he threw his micstand into the audience at Southpaw and busted Arturo across the nose with it. It was just a really careless and stupid thing to do that showed a lack of regard for the audience.
did you think you were at a celine dion concert or something? it's a punk show....shit happens....i doubt he tried to hurt arturo on purpose.
Yes, and I was thoroughly pissed that the Reatards didn't do her song from the "Beauty and the Beast" soundtrack.
i think youre thinking of angela lansbury. who is also unpunk.
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my favorite line
"the people I knew at the show all drove at least 30 - 45 minutes [to go to the show...]" ha!
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haha yeah i thought that was pretty funny too. where i grew up i had to drive a minimum of 90 miles to get to a show, and i did it all the time.
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my favorite line
Where is the "U" in favourite? Colour? Demure? You said there'd be more "U"sage. Like sausage. Like sausage? Like sausage!
Casey
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jay is a good guy....so are all the chinks.
I agree.
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Fuck!! You wimps complaining about Jay smashing his guitar on some mall punks' head are pussies. As far as I'm concerned, Jay has already paid his dues in this "so-called punk" scene. All of his bands have been GREAT and then some. Fuck, how much torch carrying can a guy do?!?!? If you fux dont like it, start a band yourselves. If you dig him, then good on you.
By the way, I just saw him tonight and he killed it! He ripped thru a fantastic, energetic set in about 20 min (tops). No stops between songs. No set list. Just punk rock n roll, PERIOD.
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i don't think it's fair to say something like that when you don't really know someone. jay is a good guy....so are all the chinks.
the chinks are the best...guys come to scandinavia to tour with only t-shirts on, no jackets etc..."i thought it would be warmer"...just gotta love them
and ill bet jay reatard aint the only "douche" here, hes probably just the only "douche" here people care enough to talk shit about
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Come on Steve, flying mic stands and incidental audience maiming happens, shit yer buddy RFA over the years smacked me with everything from mic stands to ladders to a flaming pumpkin across the face.
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JAY REATARD
DEAD
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Fuck!! You wimps complaining about Jay smashing his guitar on some mall punks' head are pussies. As far as I'm concerned, Jay has already paid his dues in this "so-called punk" scene.
cosigned
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I've seen the Cro Mags twice.
Once at CB's.
Stop being such pussies.
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Please describe seeing the Cro-Mags at CBGB's.
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Please describe seeing the Cro-Mags at CBGB's.
It was a benefit show in 99 or 2000 for Freddy from Madball (who was also doing Security at Southpaw during Radio Heartbeat for those keeping score at home) when he was going to Rikers.
It was the first time John Joseph and Harley were on stage together in like 15+ years. To say that they made every band I've ever seen seem like total pussies would be an understatement. I saw em a few years later with Bad Brains at Irving Plaza and they blew em outta the place...but then again I saw Murphey's Law blow the Bad Brains away too for what its worth.
Point being: If something/someone doesn;t get broken it's probably not a great show. No one was ever worse for the wear for having a few bumpsd and bruises. And I've seen Jay play probably 10 or more times and he always plays a 15 minute set. Anything more than that would seem like masturbation.
UP THE PUNX!!!!
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it woulda been fun to see it all happen. i love that shit. when jay played madison everyone stood around like zombies. next time you come to central wisconsin jay, play milwaukee so we can all beat your ass down :) hopefully steve will be around
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Please describe seeing the Cro-Mags at CBGB's.
I saw the Mags in the '80's, as well as numerous Agnostic Front, DRI, Suicidal etc gigs that ended with blood on the floor (I'm thinking of the pools of it after the AF/Verbal ssault gig at the Apocalypse, or the number of fucked-up kids after Suicidal at the Siboney), and I can't say it's something I miss or would like to see a return to.
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so some screamo kid got beat up at the big bad punk show.
wahhhhh wahhh cry me a fucking river.
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$20 on beer? what are ya a lightweight?
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JAY REATARD
DEAD
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If everyone was so distraught why didn't anyone stop him from smacking the kid? If someone hit my friend over the head with a guitar I'll guaranfuckingtee that said guitar wielder would have weights attached to his limbs to ensure that their bones mended properly. This does remind one of all those light in the loafers types that used to whine about the Dwarves(who I had a wonderful time getting loaded with when my band played with them). Get some splints to stiffen up those limp wrists. I think he needs to hit more people with his guitar.
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When did punk become safe?
JAY REATARD
DEAD
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IM GONNA FIGHT JAY REATARD
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When it quit being punk!
When did punk become safe?
JAY REATARD
DEAD
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When it quit being punk!When did punk become safe?
JAY REATARD
DEAD
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i'd rather go to a show where someone (not me) gets beat up than a show full of high-fives and bro jobs. save that shit for san francisco, please.
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When did punk become safe?
the day Rot Shit broke up.
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Please describe seeing the Cro-Mags at CBGB's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FoJaKwklRs
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Please describe seeing the Cro-Mags at CBGB's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FoJaKwklRs
jesus, what a bunch of pussies we are these days
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Come on Steve, flying mic stands and incidental audience maiming happens, shit yer buddy RFA over the years smacked me with everything from mic stands to ladders to a flaming pumpkin across the face.
You forgot about him slapping his nuts on your chin.
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When did punk become safe?
the day Rot Shit broke up.
ROT SHIT IS FUCKING BACK, RUSS! SEE YA IN CLEVELAND ON THE 18TH OF JANUARY TO BLOW A LOAD ON YER FACE
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If everyone was so distraught why didn't anyone stop him from smacking the kid? If someone hit my friend over the head with a guitar I'll guaranfuckingtee that said guitar wielder would have weights attached to his limbs to ensure that their bones mended properly. This does remind one of all those light in the loafers types that used to whine about the Dwarves(who I had a wonderful time getting loaded with when my band played with them). Get some splints to stiffen up those limp wrists. I think he needs to hit more people with his guitar.
yeah, theres a point right there
"lets not defend our friend...lets cry about it in the internet"
some people deserve to get beaten up
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where the hell are you guys playin in cleveland!?!
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Please describe seeing the Cro-Mags at CBGB's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FoJaKwklRs
jesus, what a bunch of pussies we are these days
you can keep your weird punks and stripey shirts and limited edition 300 press records.
Age of Quarrel blows that shit outta the fuckin park.
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where the hell are you guys playin in cleveland!?!
We jumped on the show at Now That's Class. Andy told me that they're noise bands, I've never heard any of them. Gonna be wacky.
info at: www.myspace.com/rotshit if you really wanna know.
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Wow, I just listened to all the bands we're playing with. People are gonna be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay bummed.
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IF THE AIDS DON'T GET YA THAN THE WARHEADS WILL
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hahaha, that is going to be a fucking disaster w/ a very bummed out crowd.
cant wait!
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i'd rather go to a show where someone (not me) gets beat up than a show full of high-fives and bro jobs. save that shit for san francisco, please.
AA, we'll show you a real good time. I think you'll dig The Eagle. come an' get it.
Jay and the Chinks are good people. Shit happens at shows. Bob from Hank IV just tore up ligament on stage. I cracked my forehead right open at a show in LA a few months ago. Dodgy's girlfriend cracked open her forehead with a fallen mike stand...at least the venue here in San Francisco paid her medical bills though...I had to pay out of my own fucking pocket and still paying for it. Anyhoo, yeah, it sucks that the set was cut short.
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$20 on beer? what are ya a lightweight?
Nope, just broke. Pabst tall cans are $4 a piece and since I didn't tip the Motley Crue lovin' tweeker bartender I was able to snag 5, and I don't exactly like driving an hour home in the fog at 2am while shitfaced. Once again: I DID NOT START THIS THREAD SO PEOPLE WOULD JUST MINDLESSLY TALK SHIT! The bottom line was a 5 minute set is bullshit, nothing more nothing less. I didn't know who the guy who got clobbered was and I was not about to step in and take a beating for some stranger. Chaos and a little violence at a punk show is understandable, but this just seemed way over the top.
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IM GONNA FIGHT JAY REATARD
Dasha, I'd pay $5 plus beer surcharge to viddy this.
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$20 on beer? what are ya a lightweight?
Nope, just broke. Pabst tall cans are $4 a piece and since I didn't tip the Motley Crue lovin' tweeker bartender I was able to snag 5, and I don't exactly like driving an hour home in the fog at 2am while shitfaced. Once again: I DID NOT START THIS THREAD SO PEOPLE WOULD JUST MINDLESSLY TALK SHIT! The bottom line was a 5 minute set is bullshit, nothing more nothing less. I didn't know who the guy who got clobbered was and I was not about to step in and take a beating for some stranger. Chaos and a little violence at a punk show is understandable, but this just seemed way over the top.
yeah, hope he plays longer the next time, without stupid shit, if youre still into going to see him. i saw him last summer & would have been bummed if it had been only 5 minutes, considering i traveled to the show for 30+ hours.
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all you hippies better face reality...
(http://www.cro-mags.com/images/harley_waldrock2000.gif)
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AA, we'll show you a real good time. I think you'll dig The Eagle. come an' get it.
only if you absolutely promise that it'll be a gayer experience than visiting crepes a-go-go.
age of quarrel < age of quarrel demos 10"
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all you hippies better face reality...
(http://www.cro-mags.com/images/harley_waldrock2000.gif)
hey thats THE STIMULATORS guy!!!
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The looked like skeletons when they played the NY Waste anniversary show. Kraut were pretty fucking good though. Total dope fiends, but good.
Harley played drums for Stimulators and it was pretty solid.
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MORE TALK ABOUT JOHN JOSEPH PLEASE.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XxmN6jJW6A4
(http://www.cro-mags.com/images/jj_h_milano.gif)
(Please note Billy Milano standing in background)
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AA, we'll show you a real good time. I think you'll dig The Eagle. come an' get it.
only if you absolutely promise that it'll be a gayer experience than visiting crepes a-go-go.
age of quarrel < age of quarrel demos 10"
you better put on your best leather chaps. Bears will luv u.
http://www.sfeagle.com/ (http://www.sfeagle.com/)
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Deep Thoughts with Vinnie Stigma
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIYUEI-ps
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seems equally gay--albeit on varying levels of hirsuteness.
http://www.shopinberkeley.com/c/crepesagogo/index.php
i'm like teddy ruxpin w/ a 12 pack of pre-recorded d-90s.
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MORE STIGMA!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=w0w5t_g_43Y
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age of quarrel < age of quarrel demos 10"
Agreed for the most part. Sequencing of songs on the cd version is A LOT better, but that drum sound is fucked. Still much better played than the album.
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Deep Thoughts with Vinnie Stigma
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIYUEI-ps
that is the best video on youtube i've ever seen. i totally LOL'd
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=igfoVyTnz0g&feature=related
when new york was new fucking yawk.
girl on the left is a babe!
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Deep Thoughts with Vinnie Stigma
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIYUEI-ps
now you did it...showed us whos the real reatard.
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I like how this is morphed from Jay Reatard into NYHC vidz. Not long before the naysayers chime in, though...
Oh and I need the 12" by these guys. Somebody trade me:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vTLnLew4s1g&feature=related
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No stops between songs. No set list.
quess what? because there were no stops between songs means it was a strict set list. just sayin'.
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I like how this is morphed from Jay Reatard into NYHC vidz. Not long before the naysayers chime in, though...
Oh and I need the 12" by these guys. Somebody trade me:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vTLnLew4s1g&feature=related
If you think Fucked Up and Career Suicide are good and don't like the Cro Mags you're a fucking pussy.
Case fucking closed.
On a related note: those dudes in Jay's band look like they could do some damage if push comes to shove.
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I like how this is morphed from Jay Reatard into NYHC vidz. Not long before the naysayers chime in, though...
Oh and I need the 12" by these guys. Somebody trade me:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vTLnLew4s1g&feature=related
If you think Fucked Up and Career Suicide are good and don't like the Cro Mags you're a fucking pussy.
Case fucking closed.
On a related note: those dudes in Jay's band look like they could do some damage if push comes to shove.
Old Aaron is back!
When ya gonna wear the athletic gear again?
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Yeah Mike. I'm back.
for real son. I have some XXXL New Jersey Nets sweatshirts and a Tiki Barber Starter jersey at my place if ya wanna come over for some after hours moshing.
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Yeah Mike. I'm back.
for real son. I have some XXXL New Jersey Nets sweatshirts and a Tiki Barber Starter jersey at my place if ya wanna come over for some after hours moshing.
Wanna go see that Coen Bros. shit? Call the store.
Aaron loves violence and hate.
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good. maybe know he'll shove me instead of asking if i wanna buy $2 "northern" singles and tell me he loves me over and over.
i'm wise to your tricks, Erin!!!
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ah the pissy jay reatard discussion. its been heard before.
i have a scar on my right leg from the reatards gonerfest 2 show where jay smashed a beer bottle on the stage and it slide straight towards me and cut pretty deep. guy has a rep for being a dick, but anyone will be a dick when confronted by dicks. the scar on my leg was an accident. could have happened to anyone , so i'm not mad at that, why would i be?
the problem i have with him is,... guy sure can make great records. so if you recorded a song at one tempo and it sounds amazing, (ie, "don't let him come back") why butcher it by playing it blitzkrieg style live? that just kills it for me. its like the instant he steps up on stage, he can't wait to get off. stupid.
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im with reatard on this one, some dumb motherfucker broke his guitar he deserved to get beat on for awhile. if anyone there had a problem with it they shoulda jumped in and kicked some "rock star" ass, if he really was being such a pretentious doucheball youd think the kids would be dying to score some punk points by beating reatard stupid...
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Yeah, a lot of these new fans since "Blood Visions" who have never heard his previous stuff comment about being disappointed by the speedy punked-up renditions of their new favorite songs. I heard a few comments after the Davis show about that.
Personally, I don't mind. It's a great album to listen to in the car or cleaning house. It would probably be great live if he played it straight. But it is a different kinda great to see the songs played breakneck. More of a thrill, probably.
When Jay said in his rebuttal here that he "[gave] it back to the guy 10fold," that 10fold part was probably his big mistake. I've seen Jay single out a lone asshole or a couple assholes at a show without punishing the rest of the audience too much....or even at all. And certainly many bands face a disappointment with the club owners and promoters and shitty local bands hopping at the last minute, and while that stuff can understandably affect your mood after long drives on tour, I don't think there's really any reason to make an entire crowd of fans feel like they've been punished.
That said, I was really happy with the Davis show, and at least 90% of everyone else there was, too. People at last night's AIDS Wolf/XBXRX show were still talking about it like "I can't believe it!"
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Tricknee,
RFA > Jay Reatard
Deal with it.
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RFA > Jay Reatard
RFA? "shoot the pope"?
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I suspect that when the dude's up there playing, he's getting the brunt of every bonehead's toughguy punk rock fantasy and has to put up with unreasonable bullshit almost every time he plays.
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about gonerfest 2... after finally getting the dvd and watching it over and over again i noticed that when jay finished his set, he was on his knees with his back facing the crowd and lunged a beer bottle over his shoulder. it hit me right in the head. i didnt give a shit, i was having a blast. after the video cuts out to outside, the first guy on the next shot is talking about how a beer bottle hit his head and he states that he was really pissed off at first but then realized that he had just seen one of the best punk shows ever!
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I know about "no harm, no foul" from my streetballin' exploits, but "no harm, no fun"......How do you guys decide that you enjoy anything at all? Does lunch suck if it doesn't make you have a stomach ache or a ruthless duke? Does drinking with the fellas suck unless you are puking hours later? Is going to the dentist your favorite thing ever?
I enjoy most shows I go to immensely, but I rarely leave with bruises.
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Word on the street is their is video of the incident....
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how bad was this dude hurt if he was repeatedly bashed over the head with a guitar? is he dead? coma? complete memory loss?
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He probably hit him with same limp wrist as those who were whining about him getting hit. 10 times to the head? Look what a less lethal object like a steel chair did to Cactus Jack.Myself, I think I'll be packin a hammer stapler in my guitar case. The assaulted will be thinking about his actions the next day as he or she digs staples outta their forehead.
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I'll be packin a hammer stapler
thats awesome!
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c'mon Cyrus... put the gun away! Get back in your TransAm and get out of Sunnyville!
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still, these people had to drive 30 minutes to see him. that should account for something.
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Don't forget, they had to drive 30 minutes home too.
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That's 60 minutes.
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Only a real fan would drive 60 minutes round trip.
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Don't forget, they had to drive 30 minutes home too.
It's LA.. .going to the grocery store is a 30 minute drive.
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Seriously....these SoCal people have a warped concept of time and space when they get into a car. 30 minutes drive is the least of the reasons these kids wanted satisfaction.
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Don't forget, they had to drive 30 minutes home too.
It's LA.. .going to the grocery store is a 30 minute drive.
I'm making fun of them.
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jesus, if i had to walk more than two blocks to see any good bands in milwaukee id just stay home and wish i was there
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He probably hit him with same limp wrist as those who were whining about him getting hit. 10 times to the head? Look what a less lethal object like a steel chair did to Cactus Jack.Myself, I think I'll be packin a hammer stapler in my guitar case. The assaulted will be thinking about his actions the next day as he or she digs staples outta their forehead.
To clarify, he hit the dude maybe 3 times. I have no clue who said it was 10, that's just ridiculous. I was standing 2 feet away when this happened.
Guy falls into Jay, Jay then el kanbong's the guy 3 times, kicks him in the head once or twice, they spill into the audience trying to punch each other and then it's over. It was maybe done with in60 seconds not this epic brawl. I was just pissed the set was cut short.
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Also I do live an hour away, I don't exist on douchebag LA time. I proudly live in the meth and bro infested Inland Empire. The freeways don't tend to be bumper to bumber at 2am. Know 'm sayin'?
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Your letter should go to:
MAXIMUMROCKNROLL
PO Box 460760
San Francisco, CA 94146-0760
USA
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He probably hit him with same limp wrist as those who were whining about him getting hit. 10 times to the head? Look what a less lethal object like a steel chair did to Cactus Jack.Myself, I think I'll be packin a hammer stapler in my guitar case. The assaulted will be thinking about his actions the next day as he or she digs staples outta their forehead.
To clarify, he hit the dude maybe 3 times. I have no clue who said it was 10, that's just ridiculous. I was standing 2 feet away when this happened.
Jay wrote in his post to this thread that he came back "10fold." Which is not to say he hit him 10 times, but it may explain Cyrus' confusion.
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Your letter should go to:
MAXIMUMROCKNROLL
PO Box 460760
San Francisco, CA 94146-0760
USA
HI-LARIOUS!
Seriously, I did not mean to unleash this monster.
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Im with DAvid,
I wish he would play the songs at the right tempo. It bothered me with angry angles too
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if i hit someone with my cock they'd be mitch cardwell.
come to think of it, this thread is boring. if jay beat someone up with his dick than it would be worth talking about but some band dude getting pissed and hitting some kid with a guitar is old hat. dude didnt even go to the hospital so who the fuck cares.
jay, please, next time give us something to talk about. it is embarrassing that we all sound like old women fretting about your antics. ream the next fucker with the guitar stock. i really mean ream as in insert head stock into anus. or at least poke a fucking eye out.
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We need to start that band names thread again so "Ruthless Duke" can be at the top of the list. It would also be a great wrestler name. "In this corner, the Ruthless DUUUKKKKE!"
I still have scars from the first time I saw the Reatards, when "Grown Up, Fucked Up" came out. It was the same show where Jay beat up Derek from the Plastic Letters. At the end of the show, Jay broke a light bulb with a pint glass and Ryan threw the drum set into the crowd, right on me, and I still have the scar. It was fucking awesome.
That same tour he drank ass wine at Stinky's Peep Show. Does anybody know the story behind that?
Aleks told me that "Jay Reatard" is a character for Jay, which I could believe. (I hear Ryan is the really crazy one.) He's pretty amicable off stage but on stage he freaks the fuck out and people like it. But it's not like his violent persona is a mystery; people can go online and find a thousand different articles about his shows. Sounds like Anaheim is one dramatic scene... One more reason not to live in SoCal I say.
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Aleks told me that "Jay Reatard" is a character for Jay, which I could believe.
cue my different bands-different personalities research circa the last blackout
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back to nyhc
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worst thread ever
talk about siege or john lee hooker
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AA, we'll show you a real good time. I think you'll dig The Eagle. come an' get it.
only if you absolutely promise that it'll be a gayer experience than visiting crepes a-go-go.
age of quarrel < age of quarrel demos 10"
Cosigned.
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I suspect that when the dude's up there playing, he's getting the brunt of every bonehead's toughguy punk rock fantasy and has to put up with unreasonable bullshit almost every time he plays.
Jay Reatard, 21st Century Rollins '83.
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Aleks told me that "Jay Reatard" is a character for Jay, which I could believe.
cue my different bands-different personalities research circa the last blackout
I'm a subscriber to this theory as well.
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I subscribe to TV Guide. Member since '57.
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jay the reatard
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still, these people had to drive 30 minutes to see him. that should account for something.
Shit, we drove up from San Diego but I had shit to do up in Orange County anyways so it was a combo trip. I thought that was the Melvins as his backing band? or maybe just the girth of Poison Idea? Lethal! It was somewhat like an old Dwarves show but less blood. I wasn't really disappointed, had a good time and didn't make it to bed that night and still drove back to SD. Speaking of the Cro-Mags....probably the most brutal show I've even been to was when they were touring with Motorhead. Alot of metalheads getting the short end of the stick when I saw 'em. That movie clip someone posted is from that movie "The Beat"....I say make the Jay Reatard shows into modern day gladiator battles? 100 men enter, one man leaves!
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that man is jay the reatard
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=igfoVyTnz0g&feature=related
when new york was new fucking yawk.
girl on the left is a babe!
i have the whole episode on video tape somewhere. i ran into danny lilker (sp?) in europe and mentioned his appearance and semi quoted his part about not being able to find a job. dude was bummed on it. nice dude though.
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an old roomate of mine (a skin) told me that Harley Flannegan is "not allowed" to come back to tour the west coast or he's looking at a severe beatdown, or worse. go figure!
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i'd say harley is safe if he keeps at least a 30 minute drive away from his enemies
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an old roomate of mine (a skin) told me that Harley Flannegan is "not allowed" to come back to tour the west coast or he's looking at a severe beatdown, or worse. go figure!
Such a re(a)tarded scene. It was impossible to see Integrity on th east coast for the longest time because Dwid had similar friendship issues, although I did once see them in Rochester.
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Dwid can't even come into the US anymore, can he? Integrity sucks.
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Dwid can't even come into the US anymore, can he? Integrity sucks.
I think he's still hiding out in Ohio beating off to Death In June and going to dance clubs.
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"there's gonna be a lotta blood"
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I think he's living in Belgium now....Why isn't he allowed back in the states, never heard that before.
The beef Malt was talking about eventully led to him getting beatdown pretty badly by Skarhead and their pals....
Integrity were amazing until Dwid kicked out the Melnicks, the later lps all sucked bad. I remember hearing a rumor recently, that he was considering forming another band under the integ name, which was gonna be the pulling teeth guys backing him.
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beef malt?
that sounds really thick and flavorful.
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The beef Malt was talking about eventully led to him getting beatdown pretty badly by Skarhead and their pals....
It wasn't a bunch of guys, just Ezec.
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The beef Malt was talking about eventully led to him getting beatdown pretty badly by Skarhead and their pals....
It wasn't a bunch of guys, just Ezec.
How about the Lord Ezac/Phantom Surfers alleged beatdown???
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Mike Lucas can't be seen on the east coast
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That's nothing. I can't be seen in Deer Park after I made fun of it onstage in Sugar land.
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Mike Lucas can't be seen within 30 minutes of John's of Bleeker Street.
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I'm just sticking my head in here quickly hoping that Jay is still reading this thread.
I heard recently from someone here in NZ that they were trying to get Jay down here for a show but were having a hard time getting in touch or the rep was a pain or some shit. Either way, Jay you should come play New Zealand. And soon. It's summer here dude, come down, get some rays, have a few beers then play a show or two. Chances are you won't make money but you should break even. people would be hyped for this shit. And all the people unfamiliar with you will then go out and buy many records.
Regards
Someone from the other side of the planet.
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i tend to keep my shout and enjoy punk rock records and shows, but this topic gets me. jay reatard has either been in or had something to do with a shit ton of excellent bands in the last few years. his live shows have always been unpredictable and mostly great. catch him on a bad night... fuck it see him the next time he rolls through your town. the guy writes and tours all the time. he and the chinks crashed at my house in seattle and put up with my drunkin' shit talkin behaviour like perfect gentlemen.
josh
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im sorry i forgot to mention... they rocked in seattle and rocked even harder in portland. jay and the chinks are giving punk rock away at a small price. 6 mins of a 20 minute set aint so bad.
josh
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I punched a dude in the face tonight after we played, felt nice.
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I punch every dude, all the time.
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i dont have a guitar to almost decapitate people with, but if dustburn or any body else wants to come fist fight, pm me. you will lose, but it will be fun and i have band aids, tons of records and booze.
josh
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I punch every dude, all the time.
and girl. OUCH TONY.
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The beef Malt was talking about eventully led to him getting beatdown pretty badly by Skarhead and their pals....
It wasn't a bunch of guys, just Ezec.
How about the Lord Ezac/Phantom Surfers alleged beatdown???
Never heard a peep of this. Wha'ppen?
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jay's coming to australia in march so there's no reason he shouldn't be able to stop by new zealand. get a flight on nz air, they'll probably make him stop in auckland whether he wants to or not.
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He probably hit him with same limp wrist as those who were whining about him getting hit. 10 times to the head? Look what a less lethal object like a steel chair did to Cactus Jack.Myself, I think I'll be packin a hammer stapler in my guitar case. The assaulted will be thinking about his actions the next day as he or she digs staples outta their forehead.
To clarify, he hit the dude maybe 3 times. I have no clue who said it was 10, that's just ridiculous. I was standing 2 feet away when this happened.
Jay wrote in his post to this thread that he came back "10fold." Which is not to say he hit him 10 times, but it may explain Cyrus' confusion.
I'm a graduate of the Evelyn Woodhead speed reading course,and I drink alot.
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reatard is Last Sons of Kypton.
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termbo shocker!
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chakra
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The beef Malt was talking about eventully led to him getting beatdown pretty badly by Skarhead and their pals....
It wasn't a bunch of guys, just Ezec.
Here's Ezac's version of the story:
http://www.viceland.com/nl/v1n6/htdocs/rock2_nl.php?country=nl
Dude's a "rapper" now, some pretty funny shit:
www.myspace.com/dannydiablo
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oh man did you see the shit on the first page of that thing?
"Agnostic Front were on tour and they were due to play in my town, whose name I'm not going to tell you because I'm scared of the guy that's in this story. Apparently their guitarist Vinnie Stigma isn't exactly a rocket scientist and he woke up in the van headed to the show freaking out. He thought he slept way too late. So he yelled at Steve Martin, who was driving at the time, "What fucking time is it? When is the show?" and Steve goes, "Relax Vinnie, we don't go on until nine." That's when Vinnie totally loses it and screams, "IT'S 8:99 YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. IT'S 8:99!!!"
The radio was on 89.9 FM."
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oh man did you see the shit on the first page of that thing?
"Agnostic Front were on tour and they were due to play in my town, whose name I'm not going to tell you because I'm scared of the guy that's in this story. Apparently their guitarist Vinnie Stigma isn't exactly a rocket scientist and he woke up in the van headed to the show freaking out. He thought he slept way too late. So he yelled at Steve Martin, who was driving at the time, "What fucking time is it? When is the show?" and Steve goes, "Relax Vinnie, we don't go on until nine." That's when Vinnie totally loses it and screams, "IT'S 8:99 YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. IT'S 8:99!!!"
The radio was on 89.9 FM."
To officially clusterfuckify this thread. Vinny Stigma is up for an Oscar:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CUKjd0_aVxM
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CALM DOWN THERE, MR ARTISTIC!!!!
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oh man did you see the shit on the first page of that thing?
"Agnostic Front were on tour and they were due to play in my town, whose name I'm not going to tell you because I'm scared of the guy that's in this story. Apparently their guitarist Vinnie Stigma isn't exactly a rocket scientist and he woke up in the van headed to the show freaking out. He thought he slept way too late. So he yelled at Steve Martin, who was driving at the time, "What fucking time is it? When is the show?" and Steve goes, "Relax Vinnie, we don't go on until nine." That's when Vinnie totally loses it and screams, "IT'S 8:99 YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. IT'S 8:99!!!"
The radio was on 89.9 FM."
To officially clusterfuckify this thread. Vinny Stigma is up for an Oscar:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CUKjd0_aVxM
Holy fuck. I don't even know what to say.
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But I already punched you always...
Can't we just N-JOY your rekkids and booze?
i dont have a guitar to almost decapitate people with, but if dustburn or any body else wants to come fist fight, pm me. you will lose, but it will be fun and i have band aids, tons of records and booze.
josh
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Ok to clarify I had no problem with the bar .. I was excited to play such a small place... This is the deal... We showed up at 5 in the afternoon to be greeted by the owner who said there was no show.. We calledo"matty" "promoter" who never answered his calls so we left a message asking if the show was still on . We went back into the bar and begged the bar owner to let the show go on . He asked us who would be playing this show he knew nothing about so we gave him a list of the band names of the bands we knew were confirmed on the bill . At 10:00 with no call back we back to the bar and atleast 2 local bands that were not on the bill jumped on making a total of 6 bands ... I simply said since there was no show booked and we had to beg the owner to let anyone play that we and the strange boys (our support band) should be able to play when we wanted... After asking this... who shows up but drunk ass Matty talking shit and trying to instigate a fight between all the other bands and me.. So I said "fuck this I'm not gonna fucking hang out and be intimidated by a buncha fucking beach brains" Strange boys played while people all around talked about "beating there faggot asses " so yeah I wanted to leave I didn't feel like our gear or our band or van was safe... We decided to play and while loading up had beer dumped on us were called rockstar fags etc....Four songs in a guy who was trying to throw people into us our whole set fell on to my guitar breaking the input jack we kicked him of stage with our feet and he came at me so yeah I fucking gave it back to him 10 fold.. The first 2 bands got payed by the owner of the bar we gave the strange boys over half of our money. Just so you know we lost money this day with gas van etc....
I really regret how this show turned out... I really wanted to play but not in a fucking hostile environment. And when you are on the road for months and months on end is it to much to ask to have a sober responsible promoter who has his shit together run thing smoothly..?
i smell bullshit. to get this straight, i'd really have to have some patience or real interest as the bloggers of the world unite to talk shit, kiss ass and gloat about shit that i much less rather hear spoken let alone read on the fucking internet. but to put it simply jay reatard has waisted enough of my time already. matty is a good dude, does quite a bit for the scene, but like many of the pitfalls that comes along with fans of punk rock he has his vices... so i picked up the slack and booked this show two & half weeks ahead of time, as i've done a many times before and to be honest my only cause for concern and motivation was to make sure there was a show for the touring band (Jay Reatard).
i emailed the club, they confirmed and said they were listing it on their page. they did, and there it remained up until the day of the show which i double checked periodically through the weeks to make sure. i emailed matty, he took over (i guess there were contracts and tour riders, i dunno, and i really dont care). strange boys got added, and neon maniacs added bad parents (they share a drummer, and played a 25 min set combined). i dont know why the owner was confused, it's possible that him and the booker didn't communicate well. who the fuck knows? check the dude out, it's obviously his first time running a music venue. i dont think he got the memo, or step by step playbook of rules and regulations of how to run a venue. neither have I for that matter, and i'm okay with that. also i got the calls regarding them getting to the club and the guy turning away possible show goers. i was on it the whole time, calling the club, calling my bandmates to go down there and check. we covered our asses to the best of our ability and there was phone contact with a reatard's guitar player...who called me around 9:30-9:45ish while they were checkin' into their hotel. i told you we'd be there at 8pm, we were and you weren't. double check that party of yer story.
the truth is we do diy shows all the time... for both fair sized touring bands, and totally small, independent & poor touring bands. we've done the circuit ourselves quite a few times and come back broke every single time. even when we went japan, little to no merch sold, and no pay at any of the venues. i am in no way complaining, i'd do it again in a heartbeat. quit the job, and come back thousands of dollars in debt sounds stupid right? probably is but it works for me and i dont care. so the last thing i ever expected to hear, was this arrogant asshole sit there a complain about the most trivial of events. things weren't perfect yes you're right, but they still could have been fun. and you would of been paid just the same. i wanted to hook up the one other out of town band (Killer Dreamer) with $20 bucks for gas, which seems pretty fair and then rest of the door was your's. we never wanted a cent.
i was looking forward to jay that night, i had heard good things ring in from around the country about him. sad to say, I and many others were shocked, apalled and totally bummed by what transpired. who the hell attacks the kids there to see your band? i ran into the kids outside, i had never seen these people around but they came out to anaheim to see you. not anyone else, just you. and you attack them with yer guitar or kick them with yer feet or however you put it...
i dont know when and where it happens, but i guess the almighty dollar eventually prevails.
bummer.
lots of love,
xoxo,
Mike G. of the Pterodacdudes and citizen of Anaheim, CA.
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Ok to clarify I had no problem with the bar .. I was excited to play such a small place... This is the deal... We showed up at 5 in the afternoon to be greeted by the owner who said there was no show.. We calledo"matty" "promoter" who never answered his calls so we left a message asking if the show was still on . We went back into the bar and begged the bar owner to let the show go on . He asked us who would be playing this show he knew nothing about so we gave him a list of the band names of the bands we knew were confirmed on the bill . At 10:00 with no call back we back to the bar and atleast 2 local bands that were not on the bill jumped on making a total of 6 bands ... I simply said since there was no show booked and we had to beg the owner to let anyone play that we and the strange boys (our support band) should be able to play when we wanted... After asking this... who shows up but drunk ass Matty talking shit and trying to instigate a fight between all the other bands and me.. So I said "fuck this I'm not gonna fucking hang out and be intimidated by a buncha fucking beach brains" Strange boys played while people all around talked about "beating there faggot asses " so yeah I wanted to leave I didn't feel like our gear or our band or van was safe... We decided to play and while loading up had beer dumped on us were called rockstar fags etc....Four songs in a guy who was trying to throw people into us our whole set fell on to my guitar breaking the input jack we kicked him of stage with our feet and he came at me so yeah I fucking gave it back to him 10 fold.. The first 2 bands got payed by the owner of the bar we gave the strange boys over half of our money. Just so you know we lost money this day with gas van etc....
I really regret how this show turned out... I really wanted to play but not in a fucking hostile environment. And when you are on the road for months and months on end is it to much to ask to have a sober responsible promoter who has his shit together run thing smoothly..?
i smell bullshit. to get this straight, i'd really have to have some patience or real interest as the bloggers of the world unite to talk shit, kiss ass and gloat about shit that i much less rather hear spoken let alone read on the fucking internet. but to put it simply jay reatard has waisted enough of my time already. matty is a good dude, does quite a bit for the scene, but like many of the pitfalls that comes along with fans of punk rock he has his vices... so i picked up the slack and booked this show two & half weeks ahead of time, as i've done a many times before and to be honest my only cause for concern and motivation was to make sure there was a show for the touring band (Jay Reatard).
i emailed the club, they confirmed and said they were listing it on their page. they did, and there it remained up until the day of the show which i double checked periodically through the weeks to make sure. i emailed matty, he took over (i guess there were contracts and tour riders, i dunno, and i really dont care). strange boys got added, and neon maniacs added bad parents (they share a drummer, and played a 25 min set combined). i dont know why the owner was confused, it's possible that him and the booker didn't communicate well. who the fuck knows? check the dude out, it's obviously his first time running a music venue. i dont think he got the memo, or step by step playbook of rules and regulations of how to run a venue. neither have I for that matter, and i'm okay with that. also i got the calls regarding them getting to the club and the guy turning away possible show goers. i was on it the whole time, calling the club, calling my bandmates to go down there and check. we covered our asses to the best of our ability and there was phone contact with a reatard's guitar player...who called me around 9:30-9:45ish while they were checkin' into their hotel. i told you we'd be there at 8pm, we were and you weren't. double check that party of yer story.
the truth is we do diy shows all the time... for both fair sized touring bands, and totally small, independent & poor touring bands. we've done the circuit ourselves quite a few times and come back broke every single time. even when we went japan, little to no merch sold, and no pay at any of the venues. i am in no way complaining, i'd do it again in a heartbeat. quit the job, and come back thousands of dollars in debt sounds stupid right? probably is but it works for me and i dont care. so the last thing i ever expected to hear, was this arrogant asshole sit there a complain about the most trivial of events. things weren't perfect yes you're right, but they still could have been fun. and you would of been paid just the same. i wanted to hook up the one other out of town band (Killer Dreamer) with $20 bucks for gas, which seems pretty fair and then rest of the door was your's. we never wanted a cent.
i was looking forward to jay that night, i had heard good things ring in from around the country about him. sad to say, I and many others were shocked, apalled and totally bummed by what transpired. who the hell attacks the kids there to see your band? i ran into the kids outside, i had never seen these people around but they came out to anaheim to see you. not anyone else, just you. and you attack them with yer guitar or kick them with yer feet or however you put it...
i dont know when and where it happens, but i guess the almighty dollar eventually prevails.
bummer.
lots of love,
xoxo,
Mike G. of the Pterodacdudes and citizen of Anaheim, CA.
Fuckwad,
You need to write
MAXIMUMROCKNROLL
PO Box 460760
San Francisco, CA 94146-0760
USA
They really care about this stuff. We've moved on to Vinny Stigma.
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(http://www.geocities.com/SidSludge/Dave-AF/A-F-Dave-Rock-Hotel.jpg)
This picture is not a racist picture, it's the goddamn fucking truth!
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But I already punched you always...
Can't we just N-JOY your rekkids and booze?
damn dustburn, you are right... im tired of getting punched always.
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what if you woke up and stigma was on the today show wreckin people
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I once introduced my girlfriend to Vinnie Stigma at a bar.
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once I went to a book party with my parents and my mom had a conversation with a guy from the Nihilistics
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Daniel, what's a book party?
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once I went to a book party with my parents and my mom had a conversation with a guy from the Nihilistics
Some time in the '80's my dad was on business in New England and came back asking 16 year old me if I knew of Jerry's Kids. I guess he'd had to take one of their brothers out to lunch.
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Daniel, what's a book party?
It was the release party for a book written by a friend of my dad. It was at horrible NYC punk club the Continental, so I guess my story isn't as weird as Simon's.
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Some one from the Nihilistics (possibly the same guy???) read a piece from that new Best of LCD book that Dave The Spazz compiled at the book party a few weeks ago.
And Daniel, the Continental was like the 7th circle of Hell.
Not a tear was shed the day they stopped having bands and converted that place into a frat bar.
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I used to sell a good number of records to a guy from the Nihilistics. He sent me Nihilistics records, meh. But he seemed like a good dude.
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when i was 13 i got arrested by a dyke cop for a buncha bullshit in the city and there was a nihilistics sticker on the door of the precinct.
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First Nihilistics 7" and LP are classics....later stuff can be enjoyable in a way, tho its pretty corny.
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What about Roger Miret? Nobody ever talks about him. Found out not too long ago he was Cuban... me too!
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Remember when Agnostic Front and Madball had to end because everyone got arrested for running drugs and guns to Cuba?
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It was at horrible NYC punk club the Continental
i'd been there a few times...during my year long stint living in that town. never had fun there, either. best thing about it was the pizza next door. best pizza i had in the city...except for Koronet, of course.
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It was at horrible NYC punk club the Continental
i'd been there a few times...during my year long stint living in that town. never had fun there, either. best thing about it was the pizza next door. best pizza i had in the city...except for Koronet, of course.
i was only there for happy hour once. st. marks pizza ruled! now it's a restaurant called "chickpea." sounds dirty. too bad, cuz it was the only really good pizza on the block.
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NYHC Tatoo Shop Crucial BBQ with Jimmy Gestapo. Absolutely crucial Vinnie Stigma footage begins at about the 3:50 mark:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=73fdAS6AUdQ
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any true vinnie stigma fan knows that his most brilliant musings are found in this clip;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIYUEI-ps
- james
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hey guys its me, james, again. just thought you guys might want to check out this sweet acting by Mr. Stigma, in this brand new movie that will probably open up soon all over the country in major theaters:
http://youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=w0w5t_g_43Y
its called New York Bllod and is probably up there with some of Altmans best work.
- James, just kidding, james, its me jon
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Once upon a time (early-mid 90s) there actually were occasional good shows there. I recall a Crypt Records showcase for CMJ where the New Bomb Turks were having the set of their career, but had the plug pulled on them becuase Jonathan Fire*Eater (why he was tacked on to the end of this show I'll never understand) had to go one before midnight or 1 AM or something. I also saw the Fells there. I think it was a Sunday night, no cover, and there were maybe 5 other people in the club. There were definitely some others. Joey Ramone used to hang out front all the time, as he lived across the street and up one block (a friend of mine had an apartment in the building and had stories about helping him put quarters in the laundry machines as he could never figure out how to do it himself.)
I do miss that pizza place. But it was kind of ridiculous where they'd pile on a huge amount of a toping, then even more cheese on top. It was hard to finish one piece. Chickpea is pretty decent though. The place I really miss is Munchie's around the corner which was junkie city, but they baked their own bagels fresh all night long.
It was at horrible NYC punk club the Continental
i'd been there a few times...during my year long stint living in that town. never had fun there, either. best thing about it was the pizza next door. best pizza i had in the city...except for Koronet, of course.
i was only there for happy hour once. st. marks pizza ruled! now it's a restaurant called "chickpea." sounds dirty. too bad, cuz it was the only really good pizza on the block.
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any true vinnie stigma fan knows that his most brilliant musings are found in this clip;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NKpIYUEI-ps
- james
Thanks James. We discussed these clips about eight pages ago. C'mon man, you're HRPSman, you should know better.
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Hey Richie...pretty much every post under this account for the last couple of weeks has been from my asshole roommate Jon Sewell...even the ones he has signed my name to. I'm logging off and switching the password. Sorry.
You can see him perform live at Ground Zero fest in Texas with his brilliant band Cheap Time.
- The Real James
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I met him when they played here in Buffalo. Nice fella. He seemed shocked I knew about the Episode 7" and liked it. Cheap Time might be the best bands I saw all year, that LP is going to be soooooo good.
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hahahaha. arent we having a laugh. so, anywho, this is Jon, why would I post under James' name when I have my own account? I mean, come on, sooo ridiculous, right?
and Cheap Time is just a side project so dont get your hopes up or anything man.
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Everybody needs to just fight and get it over with.
RIGHT NOW! I mean it!
Serously!
This isn't a game!
Wait, what?
I don't even know.
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hey guys its me, james, again. just thought you guys might want to check out this sweet acting by Mr. Stigma, in this brand new movie that will probably open up soon all over the country in major theaters:
http://youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=w0w5t_g_43Y
its called New York Bllod and is probably up there with some of Altmans best work.
- James, just kidding, james, its me jon
Stigma and the rest of AF and a bunch of assorted spikey haired drunk punk kids that hang around are all in a scene in Matthew Barney's Cremaster Cycle if anyone caught that when it was running.
Crucial High Art.
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Has anyone here actually ever sat through a whole Cremaster film? They all played here a few years ago, but somehow the fun of seeing a 4 hour long silent movie of clips was lost on me.
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kinda surprised to hear people canning the continental. i went/played there a couple of times and had a great time. noel ford the booker was a real friendly and helpful guy too. alberto used to get the guys at st marks pizza to give him milkshake cups full of their napoli sauce to take home for his girl to make pasta. and it was good!
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I once introduced my girlfriend to Vinnie Stigma at a bar.
Did you gave him a chair to stand on so they could have eye contact? But seriously I talked to him once, friendly bloke, but very tiny as most Yankee hardcore icons are.
Anywayz, Jay is innocent!
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STIGMA bought me a couple of beers at manitobas one night
dude was like the nicest dude ever - which was totally unexpected
this was probably my favorite rock star encounter ever
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The only time I was at The Continental was with Fuzzhead. Went to town on the Jagermeister shot deal and smoked a shitload of has and KBs in the basement. Met Byron Coley, who didn't smoke anything and was wearing sandals.
Also, it was a weird double bill where Fuzzhead played w/ Suntanama and then the B-Movie Rats and some terrible bands of that ilk played. No wonder I puked later.
But it was really juts a warm-up for the No Neck, Sunburned Hand, Fuzzhead, LSD debacle the next day upstate at New Paltz.
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Let's discuss how Stigma is more of a Steelers fan than 85% of Pittsburgh.
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The other 15% have Steelers tattoos, but not on their neck.
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STIGMA bought me a couple of beers at manitobas one night
dude was like the nicest dude ever - which was totally unexpected
this was probably my favorite rock star encounter ever
Yeah very nice fella. Paul Collins is probably the friendliest I've met.
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oh man did you see the shit on the first page of that thing?
"Agnostic Front were on tour and they were due to play in my town, whose name I'm not going to tell you because I'm scared of the guy that's in this story. Apparently their guitarist Vinnie Stigma isn't exactly a rocket scientist and he woke up in the van headed to the show freaking out. He thought he slept way too late. So he yelled at Steve Martin, who was driving at the time, "What fucking time is it? When is the show?" and Steve goes, "Relax Vinnie, we don't go on until nine." That's when Vinnie totally loses it and screams, "IT'S 8:99 YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. IT'S 8:99!!!"
The radio was on 89.9 FM."
To officially clusterfuckify this thread. Vinny Stigma is up for an Oscar:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CUKjd0_aVxM
Holy fuck. I don't even know what to say.
HOLY FUCK INDEED. "cant wait".
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First Nihilistics 7" and LP are classics....later stuff can be enjoyable in a way, tho its pretty corny.
i like the songs on NEW YORK THRASH tape the most. are they songs from the 7"?
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uh, yeah, continental was the best nyc venue for oblivs... show with dead moon & oblivians w/quintron (and US Maple opened) was tough! noel was awesome, calmed fred cole down on his first trip to nyc ever. the night before he'd spent 6 hours driving in the city trying to get to irving plaza and was seriously frazzled.
and pizza next door was great.
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In the Northwest, driving in NYC sounds just crazy. It's like the biggest city ever! You know that's going to be some seriously bad driving.
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hey guys its me, james, again. just thought you guys might want to check out this sweet acting by Mr. Stigma, in this brand new movie that will probably open up soon all over the country in major theaters:
http://youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=w0w5t_g_43Y
its called New York Bllod and is probably up there with some of Altmans best work.
- James, just kidding, james, its me jon
Stigma and the rest of AF and a bunch of assorted spikey haired drunk punk kids that hang around are all in a scene in Matthew Barney's Cremaster Cycle if anyone caught that when it was running.
Crucial High Art.
Nothing to do with Jay Reatard, admission or beer, but I just saw this Cremaster movie yesterday and it surprised the shit out of me. I really, really didn't expect Agnostic Front in an art movie. The whole movie was a sort of elaborate fantastical dream sequence and i thought they worked really well in it.
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Yeah, Matthew Barney is briefly in the American Hardcore movie. Real deal into NYHC. That movie with Stigma looks budget but I will probably watch it. I watched the shitty movie with the Cro-Mags in it.
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I really, really didn't expect Agnostic Front in an art movie.
the youtube preview i saw for NEW YORK BLOOD (featuring vinnie stigma) definitely made it look like a work of art.
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ART!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RID9uXEPI64