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Pop Punk / Re: boat shoes
« on: September 30, 2010, 05:33:43 PM »
When are water shoes gonna catch on?  That's what I'm waiting for


right now.  i wore these shits to a termbo wedding reception this month:



they are apparently fully nate lowman endorsed
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Non-Music Shit / Re: shipping internationally
« on: September 21, 2010, 07:15:48 AM »
the real problem is canada, their postal system is on some third world shit and the canucks think they're entitled to cheap trackable postage.

Nonsense.  The day a Canadian city has postal issues to rival Chicago or the NYC hilarity detailed here, you might begin to have a point.  But yeah, shit's expensive here because your population is 300 million and ours is 33 million, yet our country is significantly bigger and they're obliged to provide the same service to the five or six people living up north as they do to Vancouver or Toronto.

i'll stand by my observation - i've had several problems shipping into canada that resulted in chargeback claims being filed - mostly manifesting as 6-8 week delays in shipping from just outside NYC to (mostly) Toronto.  my sample size shipping everywhere is big enough, so i think it is fair.  only one claim was followed through so i'm assuming the recipients were acting in good faith.

btw from my experience the worst post offices are the ones operating where local government is particularly corrupt - meaning hudson and cook counties.  this is from a level of service on the delivery side, not from a customer service perspective btw
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Music Shit / Re: Japrocksampler
« on: September 20, 2010, 07:25:12 PM »
I felt like Cope only reviewed records that had been reissued in the previous 5 or 6 years to the book's publication. No new info for anybody who's old enough. Plus, he gave a lousy review to Mizutani's 'A Path Through Haze', which pretty much permanently put him on my shit list.

I think GS is just grand. Carnabeats, Spiders, Jaguars, Bunnys, Dynamites, Tigers, Out Cast, Sharp Hawks, Swing West, Tempters, Blue Comets, D'Swooners, Beavers. Aren't the Mops tuff enuf for termbros? Whatever, more for me then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp64_s1WFkk

right, but can any of those bands hold a candle to the jacks?  ergo the problem.


johan wellens was working on a book to set the record straight vis a vis the japanese independent music book fiasco (this is before copey's), not sure whatever happened with it tho

what fiasco is that, that the book wasn't very good?

It worked alright for this layman. Although something without his "flare" would've been nice as a precursor to the Copespeak.

I just remember that Japanese Independent Music book having discographies that looked like they were written off the top of people's heads and some of the band bios seemed to have been written by people who had been assigned certain bands regardless of whether they had any interest in them.

yeah. pretty much that
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Non-Music Shit / Re: shipping internationally
« on: September 20, 2010, 11:25:13 AM »
never had any problems with shipping to greece but in this age of ebay scammers and paypal chargebacks i always insist on registered mail if the record exceeds a certain value. simon, you're a brave man.

reg mail is a good idea - most of my transactions to russia / greece were volume from discogs so i just sunk the cost of reg into the total and they didn't seem to care.

the real problem is canada, their postal system is on some third world shit and the canucks think they're entitled to cheap trackable postage.
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Pop Punk / Re: PRINCELY JEWELS FROM THE CREVASSE OF POST ROCK
« on: September 20, 2010, 11:22:16 AM »
I don't think he's a dick just pretentious and don't know shit about rock music. Def. talented, and, as previously mentioned, I'm a fan of Brise-Glace, Gastr del Sol, and some of the stuff he prodouched at the time, like Melt-Banana's Scratch or Stitch. Just got sick of seeing his pudgy face in every "alterna" mag for awhile. Wish he woulda stuck "avant" tho and not tried to bare his soul.  bleccch

hmmmmm so he doesn't know shit about rock music but you're a fan of his rock music?  btw if you didn't read alterna mags, you wouldn't have this problem
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Pop Punk / Re: PRINCELY JEWELS FROM THE CREVASSE OF POST ROCK
« on: September 20, 2010, 10:41:13 AM »
That part is true. Yes, Great Shows, but the bands weren't from Chicago. And having Gasto de sol open for every fucking band from 92-94 was bullshit.

Suck it because some of the folks I was friends with drank will that Slint/Tortoise (and Liz Phair) kool-aid. Yeap, thanks for selling me all those great records for a buck a piece.

half those bands would have skipped chicago if it weren't for gastr.  there were decent chicago bands at the time - seam, sabalon, toulouse, 11th dream day, etc (incl liz phair).  not to mention the raft of active jazz musicians that any city would kill to have around.  in any case it's not chicago's fault that the ones that were plucked out by the alterna-press for international fame were basically doing boring rock interpretations of interesting music.

Although Loy's umad @ Dave Grubbs is funny (and maybe true), but jesus christ like Jim O'Rourke isn't the biggest tool in the AVANT toolbox? Did you ever read those reviews he wrote for Your Flesh? or perhaps about his love for Van Dyke Parks? or remember when he joined Whet Bull's fave band, Sonic Youth? What a plumpkin....

all i will say about this scenario is that it's far more acceptable for someone to be a dick when they're younger and mellow out later, then the opposite.  actually, jim's writing in the early 90s was a weird adopted persona so i question whether he was problematic to begin with...
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Music Shit / Re: Japrocksampler
« on: September 20, 2010, 10:23:50 AM »
there's some good GS stuff out there, but it's not really a genre that yields gem after gem.

once you get past the mops / cups / tigers / spiders  it can be pretty rough (sharp 5 = novelty band).  and 1/2 of even those bands did their best stuff in a sort of post-GS / proto new rock vibe.  outcast is ok but not awesome.

johan wellens was working on a book to set the record straight vis a vis the japanese independent music book fiasco (this is before copey's), not sure whatever happened with it tho
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Used Records For Sale/Auctions/Wantlists / Re: WTB: Feedtime LPs
« on: September 20, 2010, 10:12:00 AM »

i had all of them at one point or another but the only one i held onto was cooper-s...  can't keep them all

That's the one that most people would get rid of, isn't it?I am still trying to get into it.

probably, but i'm not most people.
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Used Records For Sale/Auctions/Wantlists / Re: WTB: Feedtime LPs
« on: September 17, 2010, 03:07:21 PM »
hmmmm i went to check which edition i had of the first and looks like i sold it...  it's probably one of those records that if you randomly found it in person would be about 10% the ebay price.  in my case it was $5.

i had all of them at one point or another but the only one i held onto was cooper-s...  can't keep them all
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Pop Punk / Re: PRINCELY JEWELS FROM THE CREVASSE OF POST ROCK
« on: September 15, 2010, 11:38:35 AM »
That name: Sabalon Glitz (or whatever) is right on the edge of my memory. Who dat?

They did one album of Stereolab-ish drone meets Chicago-hipster-pants shit that was actually okay that I accidentally bought because of a review that described them in more cryptic terms than that...

i don't get the stereolab comparison, but they were kind of on the forefront of the "space rock" thing before there was a "there" there.  one 7" on trixie, the aforementioned CD EP, a 12" on organico and a track on the assassins of silence hawkwind tribute.  chris holmes later did yum yum, ashtar command and is from what i hear is now plugged into the hollywood music machine.  a lot of the press around sabalon probably derived from chris' hosting of a UFO-related talk show on WHPK (some of this is included as a bonus track on the CD)


This topic brings back some bad memories.  And reminds me why Chicago mostly sucks.

True. Being in Chicago that time suck. Tortoise was the sound of paint drying. That shit was over hyped.

yeah i guess if seeing great shows and buying from an avalanche of cheap, awesome records funneling through reckless meant chicago sucked, then it really sucked.  i had no problem seeing gastr open if it meant i got to see voice crack at the bottle, for instance.
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Music Shit / Re: Most Bizarre Major Label Records
« on: September 15, 2010, 11:15:48 AM »
Well, in the case of Tom Leonard we're talking about one of the nicest guys ever.  He also had the good sense to jump off of the St. Johnny ship asap.  Records returning more than they ship in an accounting period is extremely common for big indies and majors.  You put a lot of records out there (this used to be a lot easier than it is today) and often you are putting them into a void, except this void coughs them back up after 60 or 90 days.
My favorite quote about the Pat Metheny record came from Jimmy Johnson at Forced Exposure where he wondered if it was "some sort of hurt ego joke" or something like that.  Can't remember if it was in the magazine or in one of the early store distro mailings.


hmmm, i think i forgot to mention that during that period they had shipped zero st johnny records so it was all returns - this came from a guy who released a modern vending LP, so you'd have to assume his ability to sniff out a total dog was pretty well honed.

oh yeah FE carrying the metheny was the piece de resistance.  i think that made the last printed catalog (dirty three cover), unfortunately my friend loaned it to a chick with whom he shortly thereafter ceased being on speaking terms.
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Music Shit / Re: Most Bizarre Major Label Records
« on: September 15, 2010, 10:59:43 AM »
yeh...that pat metheny is the one thats just guitar noise.....was a bit strange geffn put that out!

Geffen??? I would've just assumed Nonesuch or something similar. So that was P.M's "Trans" then???

More like his Arc or MMM.  I am not a Methany fan. I think he is pretty boring, but this record, Song X and one he did at the same time with Ornette's quartet are worth listening to. I don't know if they are Bizarre in the context of what jazz musicians release on Major labels. I mean none of those PM records are more fucked up than Ornette's Science Fiction (on Columbia) or Miles' Evil Live, to name two. The fact that Arista devoted an imprint to free jazz and Casablanca released that Wildflowers series of NY late 70s free jazz along side Donna Summer, KISS, and the Village People is pretty shocking. It must have been the cocaine making decisions on that one.


the metheny is weird on two levels - first of all it's a total vanity project unrelated to his main body of work, which probably nobody at the label thought was listenable... and to cap it off it was the 90s at a point where the contempo jazz section was not exactly a hotbed of sales so what pictures did metheny have of geffen to get this made? secondly, it basically sounds like metheny went into the studio egged on by thurston with a point of proving how hip and noisy he could be.
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Music Shit / Re: Most Bizarre Major Label Records
« on: September 15, 2010, 10:23:18 AM »
yeh...that pat metheny is the one thats just guitar noise.....was a bit strange geffn put that out!

Geffen??? I would've just assumed Nonesuch or something similar. So that was P.M's "Trans" then???

it was more like his metal machine music...  why do people think trans is such an unusual record?  anyway i haven't heard the metheny since it came out but it struck me as being not dissimilar to some of keiji haino's solo stuff.  anyway, you can check it out here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnN7RX1RHes

perhaps individual labels keep info on pressing vs returns but no chance would they make that public.  also i sincerely doubt they have that info going back far enough to be useful.  there was a great story about how the st johnny on dgc returned more than it shipped in one reporting period, netting to a negative sales.
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Music Shit / Re: Most Bizarre Major Label Records
« on: September 15, 2010, 08:55:33 AM »
For the second time today I namecheck Neil Young - 'Trans'.

that isn't even the weirdest record in his catalog - arc is, by a country mile.

in any case i see all your nominations and raise you pat metheny - zero tolerance for silence.

anyway, the problem with candidates from the 60s/early 70s like mad river and the hampton grease band is that it was totally normal for majors to be signing bands like that.  sort of like it isn't that strange that bands like st. johnny were being signed in the 90s.
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Music Shit / Re: Critical Listening
« on: September 14, 2010, 09:08:42 AM »
I assume Rick was thinking of Smile as the first Ride LP, which is not unreasonable as it's thirty minutes and eight songs long, even if it's two EPs put together. 

A lot of people liked Alan Moulder's work, Rob.  When you say you find it funny, do you mean "peculiar"?  Or are you actually sitting there laughing at the notion: "Ha ha ha, someone holds Alan Moulder out as an exemplar of production.  P'shaw!" 

right, on the other hand it doesn't make it any more correct or appropriate to do so...

i should have been more specific re: moulder.  i really disliked his commercial approach to early ride - if you compare the early records to the live versions they're really tame, esp with respect to the guitars.  on the balance i wasn't a big fan of his but yeah GBA and his stuff with the boos was pretty good.  but that's not what dj rick was saying, is it?
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