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Music Shit / Re: The Stylistic Parameters of "CLOWNING ON BITCHES"
« on: March 26, 2008, 02:38:21 PM »
what am I doing talking about China, holy crap
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Music Shit / Re: The Stylistic Parameters of "CLOWNING ON BITCHES"
« on: March 26, 2008, 02:36:40 PM »
Some people actually listen to good music too, but they just get too comfortable. They think "what can I do to prolong this success?" But, I don't think that's an issue with a lot of the bands being discussed. I might end up eating my words, who knows. I mean, I know some people who definitely look at this shit like a job, I look at it more like a lifestyle myself. As long as we're able to keep our senses of humor I don't see what there is to worry about really.

Yeah, I mean I certainly hope you're right.

I think there's a bit of difficulty in music, the same there used to be in communist China. Mao realized at a certain point that in order to maintain a national, communist identity, that they had to have revolutions every so often. So you had the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, both attempts to revolutionize China, to "change" it without really changing it.

Music evolves along those same lines I think. It starts out actually invigorating and new, but grows old with time. Forged revolutions, like emo or mainstream pop punk or whatever, are really just changing their appearances without changing their art.

You can look at stuff like CLOWNING ON BITCHES and sense it's actually different; it's built on the backs of underground bands that came before it, but a lot of the bands we're discussing have been seizing DIY rock and bringing it to the poorest levels possible. This stuff actually feels different from anything else I could listen to right now. That's why I do listen to it: It sounds raw, powerful, and invigorating.

As long as I keep hearing music like that, I'm good.
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Music Shit / Re: The Stylistic Parameters of "CLOWNING ON BITCHES"
« on: March 26, 2008, 02:27:57 PM »
I think every band that thinks itself CLOWNING ON BITCHES should have every member poop on stage and then stare at it while playing.

Now we'll find out if Yeasayer are really CLOWNING ON BITCHES or not.
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Music Shit / Re: Termbo traffic
« on: March 26, 2008, 02:18:33 PM »
I truly feel for the intern they're making wade through page after page of retarded arguments about shitty bands just to find the latest CLOWNING ON BITCHES sensation.

see, while we're all thinking they're gonna call this music CLOWNING ON BITCHES, it's actually gonna be called manitowoc.
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Music Shit / Re: The Stylistic Parameters of "CLOWNING ON BITCHES"
« on: March 26, 2008, 02:14:02 PM »
Kevin, I definitely agree with your final point there. I've agreed with everything basically, but I think that one is really worth pinpointing. there are some bands / people out there who are "waiting for the opportunity to play into what they think the audience wants to hear."

I was friends with a dude like that in college. Guy started out in a hardcore band that was pretty nifty, had killer all-ages shows that were played in classrooms. I still have a bumper sticker of theirs on my computer monitor. Then he got in some dumb band I don't even remember, and now he's in a worse band that is aping My Chemical Romance.

All along, he listened to bands like Hey Mercedes. He never really liked hardcore music, I think he just did it because they wanted him. When he found something that had a broader appeal, he jumped at the chance, never looked back.

I don't think a 'tag' being placed on the music is the indicator of the "end of the fun." It's rock and roll, it doesn't live on forever. It's going to end eventually. The people making it -- as Kevin has pointed out -- won't stop, but what they're specifically doing now will end, unless randomly TV Ghost is the next Sonic Youth.

When this ends, we'll all find something else that we think is the rock and listen to it. Or we'll stop listening to new music.
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Music Shit / Re: Termbo traffic
« on: March 26, 2008, 01:11:17 PM »
76 / 36 now.

maybe they all check it as they're leaving work.
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Music Shit / Re: The Stylistic Parameters of "CLOWNING ON BITCHES"
« on: March 26, 2008, 12:37:38 PM »
CLOWNING ON BITCHES is just yesterday's weird punk

signed
emperor of yesterdays fad

true,

but. Rick's desire to claim it / understand it for ourselves rather than let MTV/NME do so is not ill-conceived, although perhaps quixotic. there will always be the people who write intelligently about something, and then the people who read the intelligent writing and love the way it's romanticized will make bands and etc., as people here have already said.

injecting our voices into that cycle isn't a bad call I don't think, but should be done knowingly.

this probably isn't very punk, but take a look at the French New Wave directors: rather than let others try to figure out their groundbreaking films, they developed ways to analyze & dissect them, they employed a taxonomy. someone will write the book of weird punk / CLOWNING ON BITCHES / whatever the shit, and if we have a choice we might want to think about how that book is written.

classification, genres, nomenclature, is inherently useless: distilling music into language is like eating taco bell and believing you're eating Mexican food. still, sometimes you do it because it's all you got. There's nothing wrong with discourse about music; the only mistake you can make is rejecting something before hearing it.
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Non-Music Shit / Re: New Turntable
« on: March 25, 2008, 01:05:49 PM »
I'm going to read this thread when I'm next in the market for a turntable. Until then, my generic Numark ttusb will suffice.
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Music Shit / Re: What is everybody listening to? Part III
« on: March 25, 2008, 12:56:33 PM »
ohhh I've been hitting the generally dumb indie rock music blogs today. it's been a couple weeks, so I've waded through a lot of crap to find out that: M83 has a new album coming out soon. time well spent? only you can decide.

when I'm not at work, I can't stop listening to that T Funk LP, Blank Dogs LP & daggerman 7", Gentleman Jesse / Plunket split.
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Hey Todd, do you guys send out confirmation emails for preorder stuff? Just curious!
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Reatard / Re: Join the Jay Reatard Singles Club!
« on: March 25, 2008, 08:29:28 AM »
Hey.

Gorilla vs. Bear has posted a track from Jay's third (June) single. It's here.

It's all right. Nothing special, I don't think.
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good to know, I'm pretty excited for XYX
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Non-Music Shit / Re: Grinning his way to the gas chamber
« on: March 14, 2008, 11:54:19 AM »
shit
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Non-Music Shit / Re: Grinning his way to the gas chamber
« on: March 14, 2008, 11:47:52 AM »
Hey Clint, did you go to VT? I went to GMU, but as I'm from NoVA, I know a bunch of people who went to Tech, most of whom would have graduated around 2006.
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Music Shit / Re: Good news for people who like to steal
« on: March 13, 2008, 04:56:19 AM »
I stole a tiny toy helicopter from a toy store when I was 5. My mom made me return it and apologize. Unlike Mike Sniper though, this experience did not scar me. When the pathways to stealing music on the internet were shown to me, I could not traverse them fast enough.
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