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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: January 01, 2019, 11:37:48 AM »

I've also been exploring contemporary psychedelic cumbia from Peru that a friend has been turning me onto.

Such as?

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Music Shit / Re: Songs or bands that were important to you, but now you question

« on: December 25, 2018, 01:00:24 PM »

Great thread. I especially liked the Italian commenting on how the simplicity of hardcore/punk lyrics have backfired and led to Salvini/Five Star. For me, I went the other way - spent my youth seeking out brainy post-rock and minimalist composition-influenced art rock, then came to punk/hardcore slowly. So I've always been able to appreciate it perhaps with a bit of distance, or knowing that it's not the end-all-be-all. Now, though I hope I'm a thoughtful leftie pragmatist cultural Marxist or whatever, I look at the simplistic lyrics that trouble our Italian friend with joy and satisfaction, because I guess I see them just as a starting point, or an escape. Injecting too much nuance into this, perhaps....

This is kinda like the inverse of the 'guilty pleasures' idea, which is something else I've never quite been able to put my finger on. For me it's impossible to separate nostalgia from the time one first heard the music from a critical assessment. For example, J Church: when younger, I was into their early records, maybe the first two and especially the Nostalgic for Nothing compilation (confusing, I guess, since I'm talking about nostalgia itself). I still listen to that frequently and marvel at how powerful and complex some of the lyrics resonate for me now, approaching 40. The thing is, J Church released about ten more records that I never heard back then, and with the power of the Internet I've tried to investigate their later material, and I've been unable to enjoy any of it. Though I'm sure it's every bit as 'good' (if not better) than the stuff I grew up with. It's just, you know, harder now.

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Music Shit / Re: Best Chaotic Dischord albums

« on: August 07, 2018, 11:38:05 AM »

Yeah but what's the best record on the Dischord label of chaotic alignment? I guess the Void side of the Faith/Void split?

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: April 25, 2018, 09:58:46 PM »

Hanging in the Bs lately....

Bingo Trappers - 'Sierra Nevada'
 - I knew of this band as tangentially connected to the Shrimper/Inland empire scene scene (Refrigerator/Mountain Goats) despite being Dutch. In high school I found this LP for $1 and found it odd that it had the exact same cover photo as a Guv'ner single. It's released on Shrimper and Sing, Eunuchs! so that's a perfect combo. Anyway, years later I pull it out all the time, to the point where side 1 is a bit worn down from all the plays. Opening cut 'King in Exile' is an all-time classic and their cover of the Mountain Goats 'Pure Intentions' is astounding. A few years after finding this, I set up a gig for them in Pittsburgh (at the Mr. Roboto project!) but I did a bad job promoting it and hardly anyone turned up and I think they were really bummed out.

Bowie - 'Lodger'
 - a friend once chastised me for saying 'Red Sails' was my favourite Bowie song. I think it still is, despite what he thinks.

Built to Spill - 'Perfect from Now On'
  - I was disappointed when this came out because it wasn't short, concise and clever pop songs like 'There's Nothing Wrong With Love'. Now I think it's a masterpiece; I listen to it once or twice a year, and would do so more if I could find a reasonably priced vinyl copy.

Beat Happenng - '1983-85'
  - Seemingly another throwback to my adolescence, except I never liked Beat Happening or anything connected to C. Johnson. My first band opened up for Dub Narcotic in '96 I think and they were pretty awful. Maybe I was more into second generate twee stuff but I always found Beat Happening too cloying, too creepy, too artificial. Listening to them now with hopefully more objective ears, it's pretty good stuff - as minimal as early Shadow Ring or some other UK DIY stuff but with the whole glee twee tree thing grafted on. I hope I'll always be able to enjoy music that is primitive and accessible. Maybe I should give the Halo Benders a chance.

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: November 19, 2017, 11:29:54 AM »

I want to check out the Hy Maya stuff.

Does anyone know anything about the others in the Platters du Cuyahoga series releases?

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: October 30, 2017, 06:42:38 AM »

Oooh thanks for the heads up on the Fox! Didn't know it got an issue. Now all we need is vinyl of Transit Byzantium and all will be great.

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: September 22, 2017, 01:51:18 AM »

that ornette coleman golden circle set is so good.

yeah he's always been a favorite of mine...love hearing him play violin too. Found it at this used cd store in the suburbs that i have been going to since i was in middle school. They just started to carry a small amount of vinyl and some old industrial person sold all this killer stuff recently. Its great cos no one out there gives a fuck about any of it, so if i leave something behind its always still there when i go back.

Amen! My father gave me volume 1, which was one of his few records from the brief period he tried to get into jazz. It's such a beautiful object, one of my favourite records I own even though it's not the most rare or anything. Somehow this just sounds SOOOO good -- and I think the rhythm section of Moffet/Izenzon is incredible, underrated and it's by far my favourite era of Coleman's music. The design of the cover is classic, too.

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: June 18, 2017, 08:27:17 AM »

That Malignus Youth record is pretty incredible; I was always amazed at the speed and the harmony, and hearing it was mastered too fast somewhat deflates that balloon. But yeah, absolutely singular music and I'd like to hear it again as it's been many years.

Around the same time I heard that, I also heard the Swedish band Raped Teenagers - the only similarity is the speed and melodicism but for some reason I always grouped those two together.

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: June 06, 2017, 01:39:25 PM »

Christopher Hobbs / John Adams / Gavin Bryars - 'Ensemble Pieces'
Sloan - 'One Chord to Another'
Built to Spill - 'Ancient Melodies of the Future'

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: March 04, 2017, 04:20:41 AM »

Is there anywhere worth starting with Leimer? The Savant record? I'm curious but it looks daunting and maybe not the most exciting thing out there to discover....

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Pop Punk / Re: Bands Not Commonly Thought Of As Being Racist, Yet They Have Racist Lyrics

« on: February 12, 2017, 02:12:01 AM »

I remember a later All album having a song called 'Hetero' that seemed to reinforce the idea of Descendents being homophobic (and I think it was Stevenson in particular who wrote that one).

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Music Shit / Re: Great bands thats are a red flag when another band lists as a major influence

« on: January 22, 2017, 07:01:39 AM »

Oh, this has to be the Pixies. Though I don't think they are great, just somewhat good for parts of their career.

Slint, also, though maybe no one jocks them anymore.

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: October 23, 2016, 02:33:46 AM »

AMM - The Crypt
Sugar - Copper Blue, Beaster, & File Under: Easy Listening
Opal -Happy Nightmare Baby
Able Tasmans - A Cuppa Tea

Realisation: I like Sugar better than H?sker D?. Am I crazy? 'Explode and Make-up' has been stuck in my head for two days, it's kinda like a smarter version of Stone Temple Pilots' 'Plush'.

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: October 04, 2016, 02:53:12 AM »

I still love and listen to Bedhead, American Analog Set and Seam (though really just The Problem With Me) so often I sometimes wonder if the last 20 years of music happened. I'm also driving to see AMM in Turku on Saturday. I last saw them around 15 years and and I can't even remember if that was when Rowe was still in the group or not. The fact I can't remember if they were a two piece or a three piece probably says everything. I remember seeing Bedhead in Cleveland in '98 pretty clearly though. It was my 18th birthday.

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Music Shit / Re: What Are You Listening To And What Do You Have To Say About it? PART VI

« on: August 20, 2016, 12:20:24 PM »

Would also love the Chilton material if someone is feeling generous....