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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: June 07, 2010, 10:41:10 AM »

I think a lot of grime dudes use Fruityloops. I think a friend of mine had that for a while and it was "too easy" to use... almost like not really making music 'cuz it's too easy. But that was some years ago.

I use a bust ass Roland MC505 groovebox, famously what MIA weened herself on. I think I got it pretty cheap offa eBay but some of the LCD display doesn't work. Still makes sounds tho' and can be greatly fucked with at speed. Has patches of the ol' 303, 808, Jupiter, all the Rolan' Doldies.

Want to get a Microkorg and Kaoss KP3 sampler thing as well but keep spending all on rekkkkids.

Software hurts my eyes too much... good luck!

edit: Like woah^

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Music Shit / Re: What are you listening to and what do you have to say about it? Part IV

« on: June 07, 2010, 09:11:30 AM »

Re: Airway... I like that "Live at Lace" lp, got the reish a while back, enjoy the inclusion of many a quartersheet promoting gigs gone "bye!". Would like some LAFMS recs if anyone's gottem... also like the "Dennis Duck Goes Disco" 2lp. Funny about that one... first time I played it I was listening from another room. Knew the "deal" behind how it was made and so when a segment kept looping and looping and looping, figured it was part of the whole plantain, fried and saltysweet... eventually the lady was like "is this supposed to be happening" and I said "well, yeah!"... but went to check and saw that I had dropped a fuggin' penny on the platter and the needle was just bouncing and bouncing, locked groove style. Slight shifts in the penny position lead to little soundflux that led me to mistake the matter at hand. Gorsh! Was the wool over my eyes! Still is, too!

np: Punk Ja Yak, disc 4... really, disc 3 of this box of Suomipunk is what duz it for me. Would love to check more Finnish hardcore, wish I had caught that band w/ the superlong name I don't care to look up when they came near... at least I think it already happened?

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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: June 07, 2010, 08:21:47 AM »

^the Numbers label and those that folded into it (Dress 2 Sweat, Wireblock and Stuff) share a sort of unified aesthetic, though there's certainly stylistic variety within the cuts... might be what he's referring to? Kind of a hyperneon sittin'-on-chrome thing, like taking elements of B-More club music, juke, snap and Miami bass type stuff and filtering it through a sorta Euro sensibility... the Numbers stuff I've heard sometimes has more a creeping UK Funky edge as well, I think due to the timing of what's coming up in that vicinity now.

Just guessing, tho'.

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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: June 02, 2010, 10:12:29 AM »

Gave myself a cochlear handjob en route home from work yesterday in the perfect weather via Ben UFO's recent XLR8R podcast mix. Not to echo Damn's championing ad nauseum (though isn't Echo the original "dub-chord" after all?), but this mix does a pretty immaculate job of angling in on my preferred frame of reference for viewing the current UK "bass mutations". Could try saying something about "refracted yet rugged" or "indebted to classic UK Garage, jacking Chicago house, and bassbin rattling dubstep alike while keeping an eye firmly on the future", but you're just as capable of randomly copying/pasting something from a Boomkat review, so I won't. Might be a touch on the "gay" side for some...

http://www.xlr8r.com/podcast/2010/05/ben-ufo

Also of note: Drexciya's "Neptune's Lair" 2lp on Tresor just got repressed. Features one of my favorite song titles of memory (and a banger to boot): Funk Release Valve

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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: May 27, 2010, 09:19:46 AM »

There's really not much of this stuff (dubstep / house / techno) that I listen to at all on an "album" basis. Agree completely that it's all about the mix -- and even at the mix level, I get a little burnt if the mix sticks too wholeheartedly to genre lines. Got truly frustrated snapping up 12"s all over the place and realizing when trying to teach myself to mix how disparate the BPM counts are. Favorite sloww'd edit stuff hovers ~100-110bpm. Lots of good dubbed out stuff at 120bpm, UK Funky and classic house at 130, and dubstep (and some old techno stuff) at 140.

I'm not clever enough to slowly build tempo over a long set or really do much in the way of planning, which is why I'm a shitty DJ, reliant on simply getting drunk and playing overlapping tracks in a footloose and free manner not unlike if Milford Graves replacing the Amen break, occassionaly mustering up a good enough blend to do the annoying thing where the jock bobs their head excitedly on-beat while twisting an EQ knob as if it were possessed of godlike properties.

I remember liking an Appleblim mix, I think for FACT maybe? Remember there being chatter about how, oooo, he threw Alice Coltrane in there -- same fukkin' track I opened sets w/ a couple of times. How SOULFUL of us.

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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: May 26, 2010, 10:10:50 AM »

I was always actually surprised people who are really into punk rock generally aren't more into electronica with the DIY potential of the genre.  I do like some of it quite a lot.

I got a Sheep on Drugs 12" once because I thought the cover looked neat and ended up enjoying it a lot more than I thought because I bothered to give the music a chance.

I think there's a lot of factors at play, but also a decent overlap more often than you'd think. I feel like I had some peers who "were into punk" and then got into rave culture, ditching punk rock in the process. Sometimes they do so and then talk about how "punk inspired them" but they outgrew it or something. You can talk about the individual "communities" being small and, if considered as independent, then in competition for resources/attention at a scene-level. Both styles have such a completely disparate set of subgenres, etc. that the type of person that likes to dedicate themself to some kind of ownership of the history and family tree of a thing really can't do justice to both. But yeah, there is definitely some space for people not too worried about the stink to linger about the porous boundary-layers, catching wafts of what they can and enjoying the ride while the believers do the legwork of maintaining order on either side.

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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: May 26, 2010, 08:10:33 AM »

^Thanks for the heads up, wasn't sure if the legendary Berghain treatment was the norm or what. Actually been considering a jaunt through some part of Germany as part of our honeymoon, almost exclusively w/ the intention of attending some actual extended dance event.

One of the great things about Williamsburg is that apart from Italo Disco, electronic music seems pretty un-hip

Was curious about this... interested as to how the Italo Disco thing asserts itself. Is that the kind of club nights that actually exist in WBurg? Are we talking like Full Pupp/Linstrom/Prins Thomas cosmic balearic stuff or vintage Italo or all of the above? More curious than anything else, I have to admit some fondness for a few edits done by the likes of the Revenge / Mark E / etc, though there's a total glut of this stuff.

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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: May 26, 2010, 07:42:23 AM »

This thread is making me so fuggin' hard. Termbo is definitely a resource for me in terms of punk/rock related music grottage, but this is actually shit that I feel I can talk a bit about. Untold/Hessle/Hemlock? Andres/most any Detroit house? Echospace? Chain Reaction? Yess plz.

Funny, Damn... here this stuff almost makes me *anti*social, as there's no real club outlets (I mean, Chicago I guess there's some, but no Music Box no mo') for it here, so I just spin it in my living room watch to see what my fiancee can't resist dancing to. Would love to come check out Robert Johnson but the doorman would probably smell yokel on me a mile away...

Funny, when I first came 'cross this site there were some big mixtape swaps going on and I considered signing up and sending people extended dance music mixes to see what happened. If anyone is down I already have some tapes made up and would love to make more poorly mixed cassettes to send out...

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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: May 26, 2010, 07:08:24 AM »

I don't know a great deal about this stuff, but a I heard a couple of compilation CDs from the dubstep label Skull Disco that I was pretty impressed with. There's a free hour-long mix on their website: http://www.skulldisco.com/

Don't think I've heard any other dubstep, is there much as good as/better than this?

Really depends on yr tastes... seems to me that there's an awful lot of thugged out "wobble step", which seems to mean that people like it, but not my thing. Skull Disco, by my experience, is pretty standalone in terms of the sounds and styles on the label. Shackleton sounds like Shackleton, very distinctive and not a lot of other dubstep crosses into it. From a deep outsider's perspective, dubstep kind of started out as a few different core elements with an imperative to try and push that framework in as many different directions as possible, resulting in a lot of different sounds. That said, it seems that a lot of the time, when some experiment landed up success, a lot of imitators immediately cropped up with wildly varying results. This kind of thing is still going on, and I still find it very interesting, though it makes picking tracks to hunt out difficult.

Doesn't really answer your question, but I would ask... what is it you like about the Skull Disco tracks? There's a lot of stuff that took the "Eastern tinged" elements (sorry) and pounded them into the ground. The percussion on those 12"s I think kind of staked it's claim an I haven't heard too much that sounds quite as much like bones gettin' played by other bones gettin' played by yet other bones.

I'm multitaking right now so no time to really think... There is quite a bit of other Shackleton stuff, though, including a triple-12" on Perlon, so maybe check that?

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Music Shit / Re: Electronic/"Dance" music thread

« on: May 26, 2010, 06:54:43 AM »

Aw yeah, thanx for starting this trhead, kev. Let the gush go on.

Gotta say I haven't dug deep into much of the hardcore breakbeat stuff or even that much drum & bass. Wanna check out that DJ Scud stuff you mentioned now, will certainly dig more recommendations as well... been meaning to pick up the Ragga Twins comps on Soul Jazz + the Shut Up And Dance comp for a while now, but still haven't gotten around to it... but as for early rave choons, how does that Sesame Treat thing stack up to "I'm Ravin' I'm Ravin'" or whatever it is?

I kinda wormed into dance stuff via stumbling across Pan Sonic somewhere around a decade ago... guess I started checking on some "minimal" stuff, mostly into the early Sahko and Basic Channel stuff. Had some interest in the Kompakt stuff around that time as well as Villalobos and Berlinette by Ellen Allien. Quickly moved into the dub techno then digging back into actual dub and was fortunate that this was happening right around when DMZ started dropping those effing awesome 12"s by Digital Mystikz, Loefah, etc, and some other dubstep from the time. Through all this started trying to pick back into the o.g. Detroit shit... can't fuckkkkkkin' say how much I love Drexciya.... and then into the old, rawer house stuff (and a bit of the smoother Prescription type stuff, koff)... also into some of the UK Funky stuff dropping nowish. User Damn mentioned Night Slugs in the WAYLT thread, and I back that shit wholeheartedly. Nice ruff sounds but when done propersly enough charm to entice the feminine wiles.

Too much shit to unpack, but that's what this thread is for... dunno why I'm trying to list all this stuff in such a jumbled-ass fashion... time to slow down 'n breath.

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Music Shit / Re: What are you listening to and what do you have to say about it? Part IV

« on: May 21, 2010, 01:36:15 PM »

Yeah, I think there's kind of a wave of people (myself mos definitely included) digging into older stuff that was probably considered "cheesy" for a long-ass time. And a ton definitely still is/always was, but I didn't really know much about the whole fundamental shit like Trax until relatively recently, a lot of which can be found for pretty cheap. Lots of reissues as well. When I finally read Last Night a DJ Saved My Life a huge piece fell into place re: how DIY a lot of the stuff was. Growing up "production" and "DJing" were things I were intensely interested in but had no idea how they were actually done. I remember wanting this toy keyboard that had a "scratch pad" disc thing on it that could be manipulated to make a "wikki-wikki" sound. Thought that was actually how shit was done.

Good luck putting some underground shitt together -- I hope it's easier there in NYC than for my unmotivated ass here in Wisco. Funny, there was an absolutely horrid (par for the course) article on local DJs in the Madison alt-weekly this week. I forget about all the things that kept me offa dance music for years, the whole thing in my mind basically encapsulated by grotesque comp CDs availabel at Barnes & Noble with ridiculous sexxxy-meets-Now! That's What I Call Music graphic dsign, the stuff you'd hear piped from shitty mall shops when yr Mom dragged you there to help pick out Christmas presents, blah blah. The entire genre "trance". It seems like a lot of that is kinda a foundation of how this burg things of the "DJ" and "club music" in general. I would guess that in other places a good chunk of this is repped as well, but every reassertion of it here makes me wanna -- just -- er, stay at home.

I think I heard some Drop the Lime remixes. Kinda super fucked bass ragga type jawns? Did he do some shit w/ /rupture and/or the Dutty Arts people? Don't have a huge awareness of dance stuff in NYC, but I think Levon Vincent is from there? Had some good shit come out last year, though more on a weird/sexxxy "heroin-house(?)" tip than the aggressive breakcore stuff you wanna rep for.

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Music Shit / Re: What are you listening to and what do you have to say about it? Part IV

« on: May 21, 2010, 01:09:15 PM »

since weeks i thought about starting a kyle hall thread on here thinkin that if some would be into recent house/e-dance-stuff he might be the man.

I love this stuff. Dude is "raw". I would contribute to a house/dance thred, even if I had to venture into the pop-punk board to do so.

Waiting on that new Moodymann 12" to arrive w/ the archival releases and shit... also some Oni Ayhun. Did a nice rmx for a Jason Fine track, another dude who like Kyle has released shit on FXHE -- man that scene. My dream is to find a fuckin' basement in Madison that I can DJ a set of this kind of shit for a night. Want it to be a real smalllll basement, too.

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Music Shit / Re: Zola Jesus video

« on: May 17, 2010, 06:52:54 AM »

^ I'm in. I'll play powerpad. Or that glove thing. Throw down the Gauntlet. Red Elf Needs Food Badly.

Not like I'm gonna put any order to the marble madness up in this thread, and wanted to put a couple cents in... starting writing up some thoughts based on the interactions I've had w/ her, Luke, etc... but my thoughts tend to be a morass of ever-shifting contradictory opinion-granules and, as odd as this might seem on Termbo, I'm just not comfortable trying to tease out all kindsa meaning from any personal face-to-face interactions for all to see on the internet. That being said, I think I'm with the camp here that is of the opinion that:

1) Really dug her first few fuzzcicles

2) Can still roll w/ the current output, but I personally would prefer to spin (tenuous  and likely insulting moodylady connection) the Skin album Blood, Women, Roses most of the time. I will continue to check in though, as this may be a "transitional" period into something more ornate and fully, er, fleshed.

3) Can't really hang in the slightest w/ her Rory Kane collabo stuff (nobody else has mentioned this that I can recall)

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Non-Music Shit / Re: post pictures of what is keeping you fat

« on: May 14, 2010, 01:31:44 PM »

Man I'm gonna be in Green Bay this weekend but my parents always cook so much damn food (which is awesome) that I don't get to sample the cuisine often enough. It's been so long since I've had Kroll's and I've never tasted Jake's... but maybe this is the weekend for it...

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Upcoming Shows/Tours/Events / Re: Home Blitz tour of the Midwest

« on: May 14, 2010, 01:12:42 PM »

I AM SICK OF PEOPLE POINTING OUT MY MISUSED LATIN AD NAUSEUM (E.G. MY MISUSE OF I.E.)!

Thanks. My modus operendi will be to show up to this show, though it may be terra incognita and as ad hoc as the preparations may be. I offer a hearty "Salvete!" to all the new friends yet unmade in the great city of Milwaukee. Dues ex machina, gloria dei. Not all Madisonians care only for extended bluegrass pickin' and 4th gen "backpacker conscious lyrics". Some also like "social bro drones".

I will try to bring nugs as an offering of peace.