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Music Shit / Re: Lo-Fi

« on: January 15, 2009, 03:56:04 PM »

Fuck all production.  Songsmith is all I need:

http://music.metafilter.com/2943/Runnin-With-The-Songsmith

(In all seriousness, I feel like there's some seriously fucked-up stuff to be mined out of that program)

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Music Shit / Re: I wonder how much the Dead Boys sold?

« on: January 15, 2009, 12:28:23 PM »

It's just depressing, to me. I talk this same shit to my friends when I see the same shit with them. Not everyone's gotta share my opinion, and I don't expect them too, but I'm still gonna say what the fuck I think and feel.

I don't know the kid, like I said, I imagine he's a total sweetheart, most people are when you get to know them. It's not gonna change the fact that I believe there is a way to go about making music and a big part of it is spending a lot of time struggling to get people to pay attention to you, and working hard playing for nothing, scrounging for change for dollar menu burgers to stop the pain in your belly and touring around in a beat up piece of shit with people you may not even like but end up brothers with in the end. That to me is what rock 'n roll is all about.

The way things are today thanks to the internet, I think it's bullshit. I think it's fucking vacant. It's empty. It sucks. I think it's reflected in the music too. Shit is disposable. Eat it up if that's what you like. I don't.

First of all, that last bit ("eat it up") is really fucking condescending for what I think is a pretty productive discussion.  Secondly, you're saying it's impossible to make an emotionally honest record alone with a four-track?  Or any gear, for that matter?  Criticize the music all you want for being emotionally vacant, that's totally fine and debatable.  But saying what happens after you make the music (when you're trying to get it noticed by people) is more important, or even as important, as what kind of experiences went into making the music in the first place?  I think that's just not true, and a little illogical!  Think about it, would we be having this discussion if after this kid made the record he spent a year and a half touring his ass off and THEN got noticed?  And it's the same record either way!

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Music Shit / Re: I wonder how much the Dead Boys sold?

« on: January 15, 2009, 11:27:40 AM »

Oh, and on the wavves thing . . . does anybody actually know the kid?  I understand where Kevin's coming from re:"authenticity" but I feel like if his personality isn't documented the way GG Allin or whoever's was (and from what I can see, it really isn't, most of the people on this board are taking shots in the dark) then it's kind of pointless to be talking about dues and stuff.  If the kid walks around like his shit doesn't stink, and came in totally expecting huge success and acting like a douchebag, it would probably affect my enjoyment of the music.  If he's been blindsided by it all (which honestly seems more likely to me, it doesn't really sound like he was aiming at the charts, although who knows) then who gives a shit?  He's just dealing.  We all just deal.  If you got offered the kind of success he's seen and turned it down, well, okay, good for you.

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Music Shit / Re: I wonder how much the Dead Boys sold?

« on: January 15, 2009, 11:21:33 AM »

This is where labels fuck up when they do not see the benefit of catalog sales and
just market their crap for a quick return.  Good records will continue to rake in sales
for decades to come.

Wellllll, yeah.  But that's kind of easy to say now, with 35 years of history between now and then.  How many marathon-type sellers had there been by the early 70s that they could even see that as a viable option?  MAYBE the Velvet Underground?  Remember that the very LP format was (I think) less than 20 years old at that point, so there probably hadn't been many examples of initial flops making back their dough over several years.  

Ultimately, these people's jobs depend on immediate sellers.  You can't go into a performance review and say, I released all these great records, but they won't make back their money for years and years and years because all that really matters is what you've done for the shareholders lately.  If a company's not making money they're not making money, you're going to get fired, and the next guy who comes along and gets all the residual sales will take credit for "aggressive catalog management" or some shit.

And yeah, retail sales reports (at least, judging by the publishing industry) are all lies, from every level.  Stores to companies, companies to artists.

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Music Shit / Re: WAVVES ON ABC NEWS!

« on: January 14, 2009, 09:41:33 PM »

I've found it not too daunting to say no to cheeseballs with cash even when it's meant the difference between eating or starving.

You can't just say that.  We need details, man.

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Music Shit / Re: Catatonic Youth

« on: January 09, 2009, 11:01:07 AM »

He only molests other molesters?

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Music Shit / Re: ARENA ROCK.

« on: January 02, 2009, 04:06:27 PM »

U2 when I was 13.  I went with a friend and his whole family.  It was the tour for their disco album, at the absolute height of their excess so there was an absolutely enormous screen with tons of stage props and stuff.  For the finale they came out in a giant disco-ball lemon dressed as silver aliens or something, and I remember being really impressed--then super-depressed when I went to my next arena show and learned not every band puts NEARLY that much work into the stage show.

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Upcoming Shows/Tours/Events / Re: SEATTLE - New Year's Eve @ the Hellmouth w/ Idle Times, Partman Parthorse

« on: December 28, 2008, 09:05:42 AM »

Coconut Coolouts just got added to this bill.

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Music Shit / Re: What is everybody jammin' to? Part III

« on: December 21, 2008, 01:01:42 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOj6s2MciMw&feature=related

Insane.

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Music Shit / Re: What is everybody jammin' to? Part III

« on: December 19, 2008, 07:57:12 AM »

Gonna sit and drink Sparks all day and watch the snow come down like Metallica.

This is the ONLY reasonable soundtrack:



http://www.companionrecords.com/pages/luieluie.html

http://waxidermy.com/2006/03/23/luie-luie-touchy/

LUIE LUIE!! Awesome record.

Yeah, this is amazing.

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New Releases For Sale/Distro Updates / Re: SIDS XMAS single (winter b/w awake all night) ltd. 300 copies

« on: December 16, 2008, 11:04:23 AM »

Can't wait.  Sounds amazing.

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Upcoming Shows/Tours/Events / SEATTLE - New Year's Eve @ the Hellmouth w/ Idle Times, Partman Parthorse

« on: December 16, 2008, 10:54:48 AM »

Party at the Hellmouth on New Year's Eve:

Partman Parthorse
Idle Times
Dinosaur & the Missing Link
Octagon Control

It's gonna be raaad.

@9
1422 Martin Luther King, Jr. Way
the creepy non-descript barn behind the blue house is the place to be!

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Non-Music Shit / Re: what are you reading?

« on: December 12, 2008, 10:49:58 AM »

Dudes reading Philip K. Dick--any of you read "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"?  The story in the eponymous collection.  Heartbreaking.

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Non-Music Shit / Re: My Niece Is Going to Hell

« on: December 12, 2008, 10:28:18 AM »

Satire is dead.

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Music Shit / Re: Mayyors

« on: December 12, 2008, 09:41:38 AM »

I'm curious...What show was that?

I'm curious, too--to be honest, they seem like one of those bands who kind of depend on the energy level from the audience.  I like their stuff, but when I saw them in seattle it seemed a little subdued.  Not toothless, certainly, but they didn't make a huge impression on me.