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Non-Music Shit / Re: Lolita: Go.

« on: April 01, 2018, 10:03:50 AM »

Also if you read Lolita an also enjoyed the works of Louis Carrol you may find yourself questioning the idea of what it really means to be a child. That is an idea Nabokov toyed with a lot in his work Ana or Adore is a very confusing novel honestly and the length in which it deals with the ideas of "family". His work has sent me in so many directions because looking for answers. He is a prime example of someone who was quite frankly veru skeptical of humanity as a whole. And what he said was what he meant but the way in which he said it is just so damm misunderstood by americans.

The title is "Ada, or Ardor."  Have you read it? 

I'm not sure Nabokov was so misunderstood by Americans. Where is the evidence of this?  More people have seen the film than have read the book, and the film is famously different.   

I don't think the reader is meant to sympathize with Humbert, who is a pederast and a rapist (also, not French).  The game he plays is making Humbert very funny and, according to Humbert himself, very charming.  But you only see the story from Humbert's point of view, so you never know the truth of what happened.  Humbert is writing from prison, or Hell, and the novel is his apologia or justification. We never hear from Lolita herself, poor thing.  You misread Lolita if you conflate Nabokov with Humbert, which you seem to do by likening N to Lewis Carroll, who supposedly was a pederast in life,, which N was not.

Sorry i wrote that kinda drunk. But yeah I tried to read Ada and i got maybe 300 pages in. It's confusing, his language is...abstract in a way i can't describe. I don't know where my copy is, will have to go re-read. But no I was just commenting on how that subject comes up A LOT in his work. I like Anais Nin a lot too and man. House of Incest. That book is brutal.

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Non-Music Shit / Re: Lolita: Go.

« on: April 01, 2018, 09:57:37 AM »

Did anyone else know Nabokov wanted a midget to play Delores in the Kubrick adaption?

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Non-Music Shit / Re: Lolita: Go.

« on: April 01, 2018, 09:52:58 AM »

also: Can I get an extension on my term paper? I was in a very bad car accident over Spring Break.

Alright there old fuck. Maybe you should appreciate the fact I took an interest in the book to begin with instead of being a jaded asshole.

Sorry, that was a bit salty. I'm glad you brought the book up; there is a lot going on there.

On the men never getting over women tip: "Age Of Innocence" is basically an entire book about a man hung up on a woman his whole life (he never even gets with her). On the female side: "The Dead" by James Joyce and one of the shorts in Salinger's "Nine Stories" are both about married ladies who are still in love with deceased men they dated while younger. And of course Humbert with his beach girl as a kid. There are probably more examples; this seems to be common.

I had an English professor in college who had either taken a course by/gone to a lecture given by Nabokov when he was going to Cornell in the 60's, and he name dropped it constantly. He must have mentioned this a dozen times over the course of one semester, and it had nothing to do with what we were reading. It would just constantly somehow show up.

If you are 21 and like fucked up family shit, read "Revolutionary Road" by Richard Yates. Killer look at an unhappy married couple in suburbia in the 1950's. All sorts of horrible things happen. Probably the best anti-marriage/kids book out there (besides Lolita, which is certainly the best anti-step parent book out there). Masterfully written. Give it a look.

Yeah i see that a lot. People who attended his lectures seem to be affected by it.

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Non-Music Shit / Re: Lolita: Go.

« on: April 01, 2018, 09:50:30 AM »

But yes HH is a damn monster. That's why he's unreliable. Apologies for my spelling i just woke up. But at the same time consider his face to face meeting with Quilty. He hates Quilty with a passion but only because he realizes Quilty is the same thing as him.

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Non-Music Shit / Re: Lolita: Go.

« on: April 01, 2018, 09:44:13 AM »

I would say Carrol was the inspiration for Humbert Humbert. Nabokov really did enjoy the work of Lewis Carrol. He talks about him a lot in interviews. There's a doc on youtube called "The Lolita Riddle" and whew. Dark stuff. Also Nabokov's obsession with chess is what led him to examine Carrol more throughly. There are chess problems in a lot of his books.

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Non-Music Shit / Re: Lolita: Go.

« on: March 31, 2018, 11:51:27 PM »

Also if you read Lolita an also enjoyed the works of Louis Carrol you may find yourself questioning the idea of what it really means to be a child. That is an idea Nabokov toyed with a lot in his work Ana or Adore is a very confusing novel honestly and the length in which it deals with the ideas of "family". His work has sent me in so many directions because looking for answers. He is a prime example of someone who was quite frankly veru skeptical of humanity as a whole. And what he said was what he meant but the way in which he said it is just so damm misunderstood by americans.

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Non-Music Shit / Re: Lolita: Go.

« on: March 31, 2018, 04:31:02 PM »

also: Can I get an extension on my term paper? I was in a very bad car accident over Spring Break.

Alright there old fuck. Maybe you should appreciate the fact I took an interest in the book to begin with instead of being a jaded asshole.

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Non-Music Shit / Lolita: Go.

« on: March 31, 2018, 11:14:07 AM »

Was having an interesting conversation with Johnny Strike of CRiME and other stuff about the book and his opinion seems to be it's very misunderstood by young people today. I personally read that book at a very young age(15). And have re read it maybe a dozen or so times since then. I am now 21 and still find it to be a very moving book but have come to view it as a morality tale of how decietful and selfish people can be and really i think provided a very accurate representation of what pedophiles are(usually). The fact that he characterizes humbert as a French intellectual with good social skills is key to understanding the book in itself. And quite frankly i see it misappropriated a lot.(see:ddlg). The use of the word lolita by young people is quite disturbing. I lobe Nabokov veru deeply but he was misunderstood.

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Non-Music Shit / Re: free band names

« on: March 31, 2018, 11:00:56 AM »

Terminal Cliche Syndrome.

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Music Shit / Re: Original Power Electronics.

« on: March 28, 2018, 08:39:18 AM »

Just a lot of noise, innit?

SPK's Auto Da Fe is good though.

Yes, and I seem to have a fascination with the more fetish based noisey stuff. But yes, Any early SPK is awesome and I even like that Metal Dance 12".

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Music Shit / Original Power Electronics.

« on: March 27, 2018, 08:10:04 PM »

Hi there termbo, long time no see. I was just wanting to see what ya'll had to say about bands like Whitehouse, SPK, The Grey Wolves, Macronympha etc, etc. Any power electronics from 1980 to 1992 would be sufficient.

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Music Shit / French Ye Ye.

« on: February 08, 2018, 03:12:45 PM »

Hello again fuckbois. I'm not dead. I figured this would be a decent thread to start since the board looks dead. List yer fav Ye Ye singers/albums.
My personal favs are Francois Hardy, France Gall, April March.

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Music Shit / Re: Mark e smith, fuck!

« on: February 08, 2018, 03:05:33 PM »

Genesis P. Orridge is next; he/she/they is sick in the hospital with leukemia.


Mark was a cool guy and The Fall had a totally original sound, but watching interviews with him on youtube today was like watching the slow progression of alcoholism take a man down. Saw one of the later ones in a bar with him drinking beer and it was not pretty. RIP.

I've been following Gen's battle on facebook and it's very sad. She's always been one of my idols.

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Music Shit / Re: THE STALLION DOES PINK FLOYD... AGAIN!

« on: November 02, 2017, 10:27:34 AM »

I am listening to a burned copy user Ollie was nice enough to give me, As with most Ben stuff I'm mostly confused right now but am sure I will get more into later, but yes the playing is A+ as always.

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Music Shit / Re: Old soul/funk from Europe.

« on: November 02, 2017, 10:24:29 AM »

OP is a ub40 fan.  whats your favorite russian drum circle?

The album that inspired this post is the only SKULL SNAPS album, which that band is from holland wand was sampled endlessly by thousands of producers, so yet again, fuck off.