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Non-Music Shit / Re: Baseball...
« on: May 18, 2006, 10:46:57 AM »
Barry is the steroids poster child because:
1) All the media he insulted, blew off, yelled at or ignored over the years...payback time.
2) He didn't apologize, cop to it, or grovel like Giambi did.
3) His numbers went through the roof, insanely so. If steroids can make you this good then where are all the other guys hitting .370 with 60HR power from that era? Of course he took them, but HOW do you quantify their precise benefits? You can't.
4) No one cares about pitchers on steroids, no one got busted on their end so there is no face to that side of the equation, only rumors about Clemens, Gagne, and a multitude of non-entities who added 5mph to their fastballs but never learned how to pitch.
I saw on ESPN this sports collectibles guy talking about how loathed or notorious players like Ty Cobb, Shoeless Joe, Ted Williams, how their stuff is worth more because of the notoriety surrounding them gives them a sort of pirate glamour. Give it 20 or 30 years and it just becomes part of the history of the game.
If anyone thinks the testing regime in place is sufficient, think again. There is all kinds of stuff either out now or in the pipeline that they can't test for yet. There WILL be another high profile guy nailed in the future. And the way the Player's Association will do it is every year they will announce in, like, January, what stuff they will be testing for in the coming year which will give the pros three months or so to clean it out of their systems.
As far as Dusty Baker goes, eh, can him. He cost the Giants two chances at WS titles, once in '93 by starting a wild rookie in the deciding game and again in '02 with the Ortiz bungle.
1) All the media he insulted, blew off, yelled at or ignored over the years...payback time.
2) He didn't apologize, cop to it, or grovel like Giambi did.
3) His numbers went through the roof, insanely so. If steroids can make you this good then where are all the other guys hitting .370 with 60HR power from that era? Of course he took them, but HOW do you quantify their precise benefits? You can't.
4) No one cares about pitchers on steroids, no one got busted on their end so there is no face to that side of the equation, only rumors about Clemens, Gagne, and a multitude of non-entities who added 5mph to their fastballs but never learned how to pitch.
I saw on ESPN this sports collectibles guy talking about how loathed or notorious players like Ty Cobb, Shoeless Joe, Ted Williams, how their stuff is worth more because of the notoriety surrounding them gives them a sort of pirate glamour. Give it 20 or 30 years and it just becomes part of the history of the game.
If anyone thinks the testing regime in place is sufficient, think again. There is all kinds of stuff either out now or in the pipeline that they can't test for yet. There WILL be another high profile guy nailed in the future. And the way the Player's Association will do it is every year they will announce in, like, January, what stuff they will be testing for in the coming year which will give the pros three months or so to clean it out of their systems.
As far as Dusty Baker goes, eh, can him. He cost the Giants two chances at WS titles, once in '93 by starting a wild rookie in the deciding game and again in '02 with the Ortiz bungle.
