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Music Shit / Re: Worst Reformed Punk band

« on: June 28, 2012, 12:31:37 PM »

Raped Teenagers. Under the name Pusrad. Simply awful.

Ha! The 1st Pusrad EP (not heard 2nd) is tremendous hi-energy Koro-meets-No Means No blasts of twisted complex hardcore with satisfyingly lo production hi krunch sound. Not the Raped Teenagers reformed at all - a totally different band!

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Music Shit / Re: The Worst Band You've Ever Seen

« on: June 28, 2012, 09:57:12 AM »

Stage crew work in the mid 90s enabled me to see some crackers - Hootie & the Blowfish, Peter Andre (you may have been saved from this dweeb in the US), Sleeper + Menswear (both at athe stinky end of an already stinky Britpop barrel). Actual gigs I've paid to see - Battle Royale ( dire metal/punk or punk/metal - generally an unenthralling genre for me), Concrete Sox, Heresy and the worst of that bunch by far, the atrocious Cerebral Fix........plus any number of bad 'fusion' bands (ska/salsa/funk etc. blended into one featureless mess) who played at the summer world music festivals we've gone to since our son was a toddler which he's now bored by so I'm saved this year.......

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Music Shit / Re: UK82 gems.........needle/haystack

« on: June 28, 2012, 07:05:39 AM »

My relationship with this stuff has been love/hate for years. Times a great healer though and even bands who were particularly derided at the time (Exploited , ANWL in partic) can sound good now. One of the earliest of these I bought was Dead Cities and it sounds great! Not a band it's cool to admit to liking - Big Johns peak perhaps.

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Music Shit / Re: UK82 gems.........needle/haystack

« on: June 28, 2012, 06:41:37 AM »

Insane - everything, very underrated.
Ultra Violent - Crime For Revenge
Partisans - 1st 3 7"'s
Business - Harry May
Disorder - 1st 3 7"'s timeless.
Abrasive Wheels - Vicious Circle

Don't know that Business single ( I had 'Smash The Discos' and would rank in the last of turds I alluded to earlier...) but I agree on all the others.

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Music Shit / Re: Recent Acquisitions

« on: June 28, 2012, 06:37:14 AM »

Some of my recent acquisitions. Amon Duul is a 1973 reissue of Psychedelic Underground album with a new cover and title.


Decided to fork out the cash for this before it's too late.

Benefits great but all the 70s Jethro Tull LP are stunning from memory. Minstrel In The Gallery and Stand Up are personal faves and Barrymore Barlow's drumming.....killer.

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Music Shit / UK82 gems.........needle/haystack

« on: June 28, 2012, 06:28:57 AM »

As I sit by my wife's post-op bedside (minor tendon surgery) trying not to wake her again by laughing at the wittier posts on other threads here this thought resurfaced ripe for a post.

I caught the tale end of the 1st/2nd wave of UK punk but it was only the emergent UK82 scene (actually kicking off in '81 - arguably earlier if you wish to pursue the argument) that I really started buying records and was old enough to go to gigs. Can't remember the sequence of records but Chron Gen's "Reality" 7" and Exploiteds 'Dead Cities' (dudes, I was 14) along with the real scene-opener for me and my friends, the 'Punk And Disorderly' LP.

This was very exciting. Tons of records were bought for about 2 years until I discovered HC. When I listen back now though - there seems a lot of tedious plodding crud from that era. The much maligned UK82 scene is maligned often for good reason.

But there's some great stuff from that time and I'm curious to see who rates what. I guess the time span is around '81 to early 85 - thats kind of arbitrary but then itsa question of opinion.....

These are a few I rate (irate) for starters, some obvious, some not so.
Subumans (everything)
Dead Wretched - both 7's
Rudimentary Peni - both 7s
System + Alternative + 1st DIRT 7s
Anthrax - both 7s
Chron Gen - Reality 7" + 1st 7" EP (some dreadful records later)
Blitz - 1st 2 x 7"s
Discharge - take your pick but State Violence is a perfect 7" + the LP sounded like nothing before on 1st listen
Underdogs - East Of Dachau 7"

Just a few. A list of some of the too numerous to mention dire turds may follow.........

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Used Records For Sale/Auctions/Wantlists / Re: Set Sale-Punk/HC/Noise, OG records, reissues, and a few modern records

« on: June 28, 2012, 05:48:30 AM »

Love the mini reviews - inappropriately laughed out loud and woke my wife in her hospital bed! But it's true - that Exploited record is officially the very 1st punk record ever. And the GBH 12" should sell rapido as its one of the few really great UK82 records - and way better than anything else they did subsequently (maybe excepting the 1st 2 7"s)

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Music Shit / Re: Thrift Score

« on: June 28, 2012, 01:53:27 AM »

I should add that the Afflicted Man....LP was saved from such a fate by me. From the 'free' box. Along with a mint Mikey Dread LP and 2 other cracking mint Jamaican roots reggae LPs (titles escape me now) AND a mint Eric B + Rakim LP with presskit. All for the princely sum of zero pence. Guess the wrong volunteer was in that day.

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Music Shit / Re: Thrift Score

« on: June 28, 2012, 01:45:37 AM »

In the UK charity shops have really upped their game as businesses in the last 10-15 years. Maximising their income - makes sense. If they're really together they'll get a volunteer 'expert' in to price stuff realistically based on their knowledge of the particular market (books, clothes, ornaments, antiques, records etc.) - lower to mid value stuff will be priced accordingly so it actually sells in the shop. Higher value stuff gets filtered out to be auctioned/eBayed/ sold to a specialist dealer. With this fairly common model it's harder to find rarer more valuable stuff for pennies.

You'll be unluckier still however if the shop/chain of shops just gives their normal shop staff a price guide or tells them to use eBay (or other online price references). As record price guides tend to reflect the higher prices that particular items have sold for rather than the average the clueless volunteer will price things at highly overpriced rates usually no consideration of condition.

In my experience (and clearly others' here too) this leads to prices war higher than in the 2nd hand shop down the road. No amount of explaining this to the shop staff will get you anywhere - however you approach it they'll believe the guide is sacrosanct and you're trying to barter them down.

Police LPs for ?6? They got 'em. - with free scratches thrown in! REO Speedwagon LP for ?7 with no inner sleeve and edge warp? Certainly sir. And that's the dire mersh crap. I've ogled items I'd expect to pay ?10 for in a record shop priced up at ?15-?20 on numerous occasions.

So leave them in the racks and exercise consumer choice of course. BUT the downer here is that these items won't sell at all. They along with all the other unsold items (95% of which are clothes) are then sold onto textiles merchants who sell big lots of bric-a-brac (any non-clothing charity shop unsolds from books, umbrellas, to ornaments CDs and records) along with graded clothing to their 3 main global markets.

So that overpriced mint copy of "An Afflicted Man's Musica Box" on United Dairies will most likely end up in Africa, Asia or eastern Europe (Poland usually). Nice to know that a few interesting items will find their way to the street markets of Dakar, Warsaw or Kuala Lumpur along with the usual stream of discarded cultural detritus - Tony Bennett, Richard Clayderman and Bonnie Tyler!!

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Music Shit / Re: KBD, BFTG, Bonehead Crushers, Creel Pone - creme de la creme genre comps/series

« on: June 24, 2012, 02:55:54 AM »

Another odd one that'd get my interest would be a comp of weird 'field recordings' - not necessarily wildlife or trains (or extreme weather, but maybe Chris Watson could be invited to curate nevertheless!) but .... The sort of thing I'm thinking of is really oddball one-off recordings like the CD of pachinko game machines I saw reviewed in the Wire a few years back, or Joe Banks Disinformation project recordings of numbers stations and atmospheric electric phenomena. Or Michael Primes bio-feedback recordings. Could be anything as long as its very odd!

This is already well into Touch label territory....

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Music Shit / Re: KBD, BFTG, Bonehead Crushers, Creel Pone - creme de la creme genre comps/series

« on: June 24, 2012, 02:41:39 AM »

Love Peace Poetry comps are basically the "one good song off this super rare album" concept. I've enjoyed most of 'em.

I Hate The Pop Group is fantastic. God Bless America is a great comp of oddball lesser-known country records. Beat Jazz Vol 1 & 2 are pretty decent beatnik jazz comps.

Would love the fake punk comp, might have contemplated some small take on that myself.

Yeah - the 'one good track from the LP' is the sort of model I was thinking of for non-7's - makes all killer no filler easier to achieve.

The fake punk comp is a killer idea. Had't twigged the film music potential either. TV too. A UK volume (I'm already thinking of this as a series.......!) would have to include Gyppos 'High Rise Love' and the Albertos 'Fuck You'. Maybe the Not The Nine O'Clock News spoofs 'Gob On You', 'Oswald Moseley' and 'Superpower Confrontation' too......

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Music Shit / Re: KBD, BFTG, Bonehead Crushers, Creel Pone - creme de la creme genre comps/series

« on: June 23, 2012, 12:31:43 PM »

A good comp or 2 of the more gritty C86 era buzzsaw/Buzzcocks type bands like Soup Dragons and Shop Assistants would be dandy

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Music Shit / Re: Worst songs with "Fuck" in the title

« on: June 22, 2012, 11:36:29 PM »

There must be a load of UK82 dung nuggets that fit the bill but Riot Squads "Fuck The Tories" is a good starter.

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Music Shit / Re: KBD, BFTG, Bonehead Crushers, Creel Pone - creme de la creme genre comps/series

« on: June 22, 2012, 12:15:09 PM »

Everyone here is rich or fucking into money.

Charlie M, I know this is Fantasyland so there's no point in bringing this up, but you are aware that most concrete / electroacoustic / acousmatic or free jazz pieces are much longer than the average rock 'n' roll song and don't lend themselves to comping, right?  The equivalent of a Nuggets-style comp of tape music would be a 20-LP box. 

There is, in fact, a 6-LP box set of sound poetry culled from Henri Chopin's magaizne Revue Ou.  It was released by Alga Marghen about ten years ago.

You're right - that stuff is usually lengthy but a nice 6 LP box of our brain-melters would rule. And I totally hear you on those Sub Rosa comps - the Duchamp + Orridge mixture was ill advised. The Alga Marghen box - heap, remember that one now from a Volcanic Tongue email. Few copies still available from FE + 4CD version on sale too. Jeez.....just seen their series of Avant Marghen 7LP box sets too!!!! Who buys that stuff???!!! Me if I could afford it! Ha!

There have been some great ideas so far. How lucky my wallet is that none of them will ever

.....oops.....come to fruition. Except for those pop-punk comps -that's a cert

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Music Shit / Re: Historia de la Musica Rock, Vol. 400: Los Cramps; Crucifucks Gold; Etc.

« on: June 22, 2012, 11:30:38 AM »

Historia de la Musica Rock, Vol. 322: Husker Du

Lado Primero:
Real World
Back From Somewhere
Books About UFOs
It's Not Funny Anymore
Could You Be the One?

Lado Segundo:
Makes No Sense At All
Girl Who Lives On Heaven Hill
Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely
Actual Condition
Diane

Or............

Side 1
In A Free Land
Lifeline
Real World
Makes No Sense At All
Blah Blah Blah
Everything Falls Apart
Chartered Trips

Side 2
I?ll Never Forget You
Turn On The News
Celebrated Summer
Private Plane
Hate Paper Doll
Games
 
No songs from Warehouse but then I no longer own it?need to rectify that.
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