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Music Shit / Re: Urge Overkill
« on: September 02, 2011, 08:24:44 AM »
"As if to confirm their lack of sympathy for the growing punk movement Urge Overkill took delight in wearing outlandish ethnic clothes, touring Chicago in an open-top car, with chilled champagne nestling in the boot. They also flew in the face of grunge fashion by filming videos about picnics, yachting and their second most-favoured form of transport ?the horse drawn carriage. Such behaviour won them few friends within the tightly knit Chicago scene, the most public demonstration of their rejection coming from Albini (he cited them as "freakish attention-starved megalomaniacs"). "

YES!!  This is what was COOL about the 90s.  These dudes are like the cartoon embodiment of the entire Tower Records story thread!


There's a world of difference between a hydrofoil and a yacht.
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Pop Punk / Re: billboard's 50 best indie labels in america
« on: August 17, 2011, 06:35:05 AM »


from 1981
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If anything, the fact this happened will have a positive impact on sales.  First of all it's publicity.  Second of all, everyone loves a victim.  Third of all, it creates a fake shortage...therefore a fake urgency to buy later when it hits.  WINNING!

For some of the smaller labels involved --- esp. those who are more catalog focused --- the fire was a pretty big deal.  Imprints that had inventory of various titles in the 10-200 pieces range now have to contemplate remanufacture w/ minimum quantities of 500 and/or allow those titles to go out of print.  This is not the easiest thing in the world to explain to an insurance company (i'm not saying it can't be done, but it's not exactly a snap-yr-fingers, here's a huge check scenario, either)

(the comments about dead/immoveable stock are right on...however in many cases the true wastes-of-space were already returned to the labels' own warehouses/offices/bedrooms.  Shelf space at PIAS was at a premium, or so they claimed, and if you intended to keep thousands of records there that no one was ordering, they happily invoiced labels for the privilege).

I'm not so certain the publicity is gonna result in a windfall for anyone.  Over there, anyway, there's probably a greater outpouring of sympathy for small biz owners other than the people who release Adele & Arctic Monkeys records (which sort of makes sense). Again, there's MUCH smaller labels that go through PIAS, but if they struggled to get on the public's radar pre-inferno, it won't be easy to do so afterwards --- especially if they're unable to ship physical stock for weeks or months.

The media appeal to purchase downloads from the labels affected is a nice idea but ignores the fact the UK's remaining independent shops might still be sitting on some of those titles...and this is exactly a moment in time where they're gonna need help, too (i have a sneaking suspicion the number of people hitting record shops in England this week might be even less than usual).



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Music Shit / Re: FREE John Wesley Coleman III "Steal My Mind" mp3's
« on: July 13, 2011, 12:44:04 PM »
For what it's worth (if anything), since this thread has been started I've had at least 6 or 7 people PM, email or call me to say "Fuck Goner" or "Nice to see you're sticking up for yourself"...

Those 6 or 7 deep thinkers (real or imaginary?) have a really sophisticated sense of right or wrong.  Really "sticking up for yourself" might involve actually explaining what this "fancy" lawyer said or in some fashion laying out why you believe you have rights to these recordings FOREVER and Wes isn't allowed to make a digital deal of his own.

What would possess a money-hungry, rock biz mercenary like Wes Coleman to take 'Steal My Mind''s digital rights to another label? Perhaps it has something to do with how in the 2 years since 'Steal My Mind' came out on vinyl, it's never before been available on iTunes.  Monofonus Press managed to get 'American Trashcan' onto iTunes. Lord knows how they accomplished this amazing feat without hiring a huge legal team or waving shiny objects in Wes' face.
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Music Shit / Re: FREE John Wesley Coleman III "Steal My Mind" mp3's
« on: July 12, 2011, 09:29:50 PM »
"Money has never been Certified PR's bottom line. I've lost plenty of money putting out records that I actually like.
UNLIKE Goner who obviously only cares about turning a profit and will continue to release college indie rock records."


"I don't understand why Goner would even bother with "Steal My Mind". The sales aren't that impressive."

Let us know when you've reconciled the two sentences above. 

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Music Shit / Re: FREE John Wesley Coleman III "Steal My Mind" mp3's
« on: July 12, 2011, 06:16:54 PM »
"assuming certified PR has the right to continue producing this LP or has copies left to sell, whats wrong with handing out some free promos of the record he paid to have recorded and released? "

He's not merely offering free promos of his own record.  He publicly urged the following, "Don't give Goner any money for 'Steal My Mind'" while offering a free download of the same title the other label clearly is claiming ownership of. If there's a legit reason why Certified PR ought to prevent Goner from selling 'Steal My Mind' "digitally on itunes or amazon or whatever", by all means, let's hear it.

I wasn't previously aware the bit about encouraging free downloads of 'Bad Lady Goes To Jail' was only up for two minutes. That it was removed so quickly would seem to indicate somebody, somewhere, also thought it was a shitty idea.

That only a handful of people might've read the post / downloaded the title in question isn't the point.  Even fewer people would've read it had it never been posted in the first place.

"i would assume most artists would want to keep their shit in print."

That's a pretty fair assumption.  Unless, for instance, they no longer wanna work with _____  Records and would prefer someone else get involved.   That's not to say there aren't instances where whoever originally released a title is being treated unfairly.
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Music Shit / Re: FREE John Wesley Coleman III "Steal My Mind" mp3's
« on: July 12, 2011, 04:17:12 PM »
Merely because a label paid for a recording (if indeed that's what happened) that doesn't necessarily mean they have the right to continue selling the album in question via any available means until the end of time.  

Certified PR's original post on this topic offered a download of 'Bad Lady Goes To Jail', too. If you wanna act like it didn't happen, go right ahead.
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Music Shit / Re: FREE John Wesley Coleman III "Steal My Mind" mp3's
« on: July 12, 2011, 06:35:41 AM »
"the label is posting a link to the material they paid to have recorded and paid to release, what is the problem?"

I'd not chime in again, except my previous post was deleted.    For starters, simply because a label paid for a recording and manufacture of an album doesn't necessarily mean they're the owners of the recording in question (nor can you assume 100% of the time the recording was paid for by anyone besides the band). 

The rights may or may not have reverted to the artist.  In this instance, there seems to be a dispute over who owns 'Steal My Mind', and if Goner are being publicly accused of strong-arming Certified PR, it would awfully useful to read their and/or Wes' side of the story.

The other part of the problem --- and you might not be aware that the post that started this thread off has since seen a passage deleted ---- is that along with offering a free download of 'Steal My Mind' , there was also an open invite to do the same with 'Bad Lady Goes To Jail' via Soulseek.   I don't believe there's any claim that Certified PR paid for 'Bad Lady..', nor did anyone other than Goner put it out.
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Non-Music Shit / Re: Record Store Day 2011
« on: April 18, 2011, 05:58:07 PM »
austin folk, Waterloo still has multiple copies of several RSD '11 titles including the Purling Hiss/Puffy Areolas 12" (black vinyl though), 13th Floor Elevators & Red Crayola 7"'s ($10.99) and Trouble In Mind's 4 way covers split (Mean Jeans, Eddy Current Suppression Ring, The Wrong Words, Jack Oblivian).

I've got an extra copy of the Scientists "Frantic Romantic" repress -- PM if you wanna buy it for cost ($11 + postage) or trade.  
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Bandcamp sells codes in quantities as few as 100 for 3 cents (less for 5K or above).  They host the files and offer a variety of formats upon code redemption. Doesn't take long to set up a profile (and seems pretty easy to take one down).
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Music Shit / Re: Do What Thou Wilt
« on: February 24, 2011, 02:57:52 AM »
arrived, properly packed in Texas earlier today.  Seems like folks on the east coast would've received theirs earlier
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Music Shit / Re: RANCID VAT
« on: February 20, 2011, 08:20:37 PM »
the back and forth male/female vocals on "Most Likely to Succeed" are astonishing.  I'm pretty sure Carlo Bergonzi and Renata Scotto retired after hearing this single.
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they were on vol. 1.   
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the 2nd of two Austin compilations, 'Casual Victim Pile II' comes out via 12XU on Feb. 25 ; 14 of the 18 tracks are previously unreleased (the OBN III's and Giant Dog songs are on their recent Tic Tac Totally and Sundae singles, Cruddy and Rayon Beach's songs were both on recent tour cassettes).  Here's the lineup :

OBN III's
Cruddy
Rayon Beach
Women In Prison
Naw Dude
Simple Circuit
Hatchet Wound
Crisis Hotlines
Literature
Sally Crewe & The Sudden Moves
A Giant Dog
The Dead Space
Serious Tracers
The French Inhales
Bottle Service
The Zoltars
Coma In Algiers
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Stores can get it thru Matador Direct or Revolver.  Additional wholesale or retail inquires :  gcosloy (DOT) gmail.com

http://www.casualvictimpile.com
http://www.12XU.net



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