Why did Screeching Weasel have to start sucking. God dammit.

[goneoffdatlean]

I'll give you this, my mellow, "Claire Monet" is on the saddest, touching songs I've ever heard.  The title track makes me laugh, it is so silly especially with all the guest vocals.

[TTT]

I can see where you'd say that for sure.  glad you like Claire Monet at least!  dang.  Theres similar stuff to that on the Kill The Musicians comp.  Towards the end.  and middle before the Ramones covers area of the record. 

mainly i was bringing those two up because they sit side by side and are so different.  just to deflate the whole "dude its all the same" idea. 

PS, yeah I am pretty sure every band around then had at least one attempt at a Jawbreaker song.  They took it really far with using Blake on a blatantly Jawbreaker-esque song.  That always made me think about how Blake actually felt about being in there recording something so clearly taken from him.  But at least it has cool lyrics and the rhythm guitar riff is pretty cool.  Its very dramatic though.  These 90's bands that were usually so poppy and then took some Jawbreaker as an experiment...well, when it flopped, it REALLY flopped.  Some bands just can't do it like some 24 Hour Revenge Therapy.  I mean you can't.  I remember J Church for a while really got into that mode.  But you can't have bands like MTX doing it.  I mean thats just real bogus....people know you a whole different way, so thats when people crumble.  Doing that type of shit. 

Also...Young Steve....being the huge fan of instantly catchy "pop" songs with melody that you can instantly dig on...what's you take TALK TO ME SUMMER.  Holy shit.  I mean it might make you feel gay at first listening to it, but it's really good.  So I'll pull the dildo out of my butt when I'm finished with that one for sure. 

[scott b]

ahhh this brings me back.  i downloaded anthem last night and can't say it has aged well.  i remember blasting this stuff though, along with winepress (homewood!!!)

[TTT]

DUDE!  WINEPRESS!  holy shit.  Mushugunas, AYA, man o man.  See you have a feel for why I'm like this at least.  I was gonna repress the Winepress 7"s but I think they wanted them on CD. 

[Scrod Prickknee]

Mushuganas were so bad, fuck...and then they "went rock 'n roll" and were even worse. Funny to look at with their haystacks & all, but that's all they were worth.

[bazooka joe]

ahhh this brings me back.  i downloaded anthem last night and can't say it has aged well.

not to sound "cool" but i never thought they were good when i was in my early 20's (over 10 years ago) and my taste still wasn't fully developed and my best friend was all over them. goddamn, i hate getting accused of being "to cool" for not liking shit.

[TTT]

Naw, not accusing you...I was putting it out there cuz lotsa people do that tho and I didnt know if you were so I put the flag up.  I know you dont like it now.

Mushuganas were so bad, fuck...and then they "went rock 'n roll" and were even worse. Funny to look at with their haystacks & all, but that's all they were worth.

did you ever hear the split with Chemical Blue?  the 3 songs on that were some of my faves and still are.  Very sloppy and loose but creative and brutishly melodic too.  

I'm gettin drunk tonight in Homewood so Ill have to go pour some out on Off the Alley's final resting place.  The alley it was off of.  It's "Homewood Days" tonight I guess.  The soccer mom fest that provides an interesting back-drop for aging punks to get wasted in.

[scott b]

i never got into the mushuganas, but winepress does have a special place in my heart, being from my good ol' suburban hometown.  

yea, winepress does have like a retrospective cd of all their traxxx.

ahhh this brings me back.  i downloaded anthem last night and can't say it has aged well.

not to sound "cool" but i never thought they were good when i was in my early 20's (over 10 years ago) and my taste still wasn't fully developed and my best friend was all over them. goddamn, i hate getting accused of being "to cool" for not liking shit.

who is accusing you of being "too cool"? ya like what ya like broooooo

Naw, not accusing you...I was putting it out there cuz lotsa people do that tho and I didnt know if you were so I put the flag up.  I know you dont like it now.

Mushuganas were so bad, fuck...and then they "went rock 'n roll" and were even worse. Funny to look at with their haystacks & all, but that's all they were worth.

did you ever hear the split with Chemical Blue?  the 3 songs on that were some of my faves and still are.  Very sloppy and loose but creative and brutishly melodic too.  

I'm gettin drunk tonight in Homewood so Ill have to go pour some out on Off the Alley's final resting place.  The alley it was off of.  It's "Homewood Days" tonight I guess.  The soccer mom fest that provides an interesting back-drop for aging punks to get wasted in.

don't forget record swap

[TTT]

yeah...i heard they were playing some shows too.  oh ill pass record swap.  i think fiction house is still there tho.  maybe im wrong. 

also, what the fuck happened to bossanova?  i remember going in there years ago, and ryan was telling me about that retrospective comp thing back then...since then I think they closed but i dont know.  it was out in lansing.  not too many reasons to go there.

[bazooka joe]

Im so sick of people trying to look cool on here.  BORING. [/qoute]


no biggie though. i just dont care. gonna go back to sleep now!

[Ass Invader]

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[Dan Celebrity]

Mushuganas were so bad, fuck...and then they "went rock 'n roll" and were even worse. Funny to look at with their haystacks & all, but that's all they were worth.

When they changed to a hardcore band (The Repos) they were pretty ripping though!  Mushuganas though, awful.

[Late Twenties Steve]

Also...Young Steve....being the huge fan of instantly catchy "pop" songs with melody that you can instantly dig on...what's you take TALK TO ME SUMMER.  Holy shit.  I mean it might make you feel gay at first listening to it, but it's really good.  So I'll pull the dildo out of my butt when I'm finished with that one for sure. 

You'll have to ask that question in the proper thread. I will say this though, you're right on in your assessment of Screeching Weasel writing a lot of great songs. I'm not a fan of stuff like the title track to "Anthem..." for the reasons Troy mentioned, but hey I think every album from "My Brain Hurts" to "How to Make Enemies" has a number of first rate tunes that would be more popular today with the Termbo crowd if it wasn't for the bad memories caused by all of the Weasel imitators. There are a couple stylistic touches here and there with Screeching Weasel tunes that have been kind of ruined for me, like going, "whoa oh oh oh" but that still doesn't ruin a song like "Highschool Psychopath."

Look, here's the deal with Screeching Weasel: they were doing something unique for their time in that they were trying to write catchy pop songs without a high degree of technical proficiency. It's not their fault that a sound which developed from their idiosyncrasies became a codified style that turned into one of the most nauseating genre ghettos of the 90's. I mean fuck trying to sing like Ben Weasel, but his voice wasn't an affected caricature like that of his imitators. Dude just didn't have a good voice and was trying to sing as well as he could within his limitations.

Of course, I don't stand by the post-Riverdales SW albums at all - particularly "Bark Like a Dog" - but for some reason I've got a soft spot for that EP with the $50 on the cover. I dunno why. It's the only Screeching Weasel I own on vinyl too. I'd like to pick up Lookout pressings of the other records at some point. When I was at Discourage I contemplated buying the "Punkhouse" EP but didn't because I wanted to avoid getting made fun of by the other two members of Boys Club. I shoulda picked it up anyway.

[roadkill33]

mushuganas awful??? weird. maybe its nostalgia but i still like the old stuff.  i had a two hour tape that had all of their singles and comp tracks, and the then unreleased first album... would listen to that ALL the time.   eh, i could see how some people thought it was garbage. it kinda was.  oh well. i liked their rock and roll album a bit too... though it wasn't much the same band at all.


bout screeching weasel - anyone have a scan of the back cover (i forget which it was, either television city dream or emo...) with some people standing around??  i forgot what joey vindictive and dummyroom girl's daughter looked like, but i remember having a crush on her when she sold records at shows back in like '97.   would be funny to see that picture now.

[Matt V.]

i really wanna hear this 3rd riverdales album now. the second one is probably the best pop punk album of the 90's.

re screeching weasel: i dont have anything to add other than i liked 'em a lot back then but have absoltuely no interest in hearing them now. 'major label debut' (the $50 bill ep) wasn't bad. i think 'kill the musicians' was my favorite.