Poll -Jay Reatard #4 Frenzy

[Ayapapaya]

kevin, I'm sure there are plenty of good folks working over there...but it is a corporation and they do exist to try to make big $$ and they're doing everything right to hopefully make Jay into a money making vehicle for them while they piss off a few consumers. And yes, it is pretty silly to completely go crazy over this nonsense.

But I'd be honest. If I see a pretty pink marble vinyl and a plain black vinyl of a same record for the same price, I'd want the pretty flashy record like a magpie. I enjoy the music and I enjoy collecting it too.

Happy Bastille Day!

[Ashley Roachclip]

Well, you'll all be happy to know that come this fall there will be plenty of the new Mystery Girls album to go around.  Then you can fill 6 pages on your local internet message board talking about how it's not as good as _____ says it is.

[Ashley Roachclip]

Of course then I notice the other 16 page thread about this shit.  I don't know what to say.

[Jared]

"I PRE-ORDERED THE NEW JAY REATARD 7" AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSEY E-MAIL."
                       --T-Shirt

[Scrod Prickknee]

I have zero interest in these instant collectables. Justin's right in that if it's marketed that way, you can flip it, but then it'll be back down to retail (maybe a little more) in some-odd years (see: Sub Pop singles club beyond breakout groups). However, many records (probably not Black Lips, but maybe, more likely unhyped but great micro-presses) will indeed sell for over $100 a decade from now. Why not? Because of the arbitrary year thing? History has proven that each generation produces something that's poo-poo'd as trendy garbage (this happened in '55, '66, '77, etc.) but increases in value in the rearview as youngsters pick up on it. There will be records from EVERY YEAR going forward that one day will one day be pricey.

I'm just gonna buy the LP. I've heard the clips from these 45s, and some songs are pretty good (like the b-side on the first 45), so I'm sure it'll be worth the $10. I'm not gonna dick around online just to get the singles, though.

Also, Kevin - as of today, "By a Thread" is officially out of my house and cleared outta distros (as far as I know). Gimme a call (I lost everyone's number in a tragic washing machine accident).

[davemartin]

Just for the record before I started getting bated into the finer points of the douchebaggery, I was initially just pissed off that a kid who lived far away couldn't get some music he wanted, even waiting on the day it came out.  Like he'd done for 3 other singles.  This seems to be in line with your values about the accessibility of music, so I hope you don't have a problem with this part.

I was also mad that he was being told that since he wouldn't get a copy, he actually didn't like the music and wanted an "artifact".  Someone told him that.  I'm not going to feel bad for sticking up for him when he's told that kind of shit. 

I say some dumb shit on here a lot.  But I don't regret anything I said on here today.  This is all very well thought out stuff that I completely and firmly believe in.  There are finer points to it that would need a lot of face to face discussion.  I'd really love to get over and actually talk with some of you fools.  Mike especially, he's a good one.

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Yeah, I told him that, but you've got very selective way of putting things.  My point was that the dude's opinion of the music seemed to hinge on him being one of the few folks who would actually own a copy of the single.
Like I said I feel that we've been pretty up front about how many of these things we are making and how they are being distributed to consumers and stores. However, A lot of folks who might want them are not going to get copies of this single and the next two.  
And Ayapapaya, if you read my comment about 30 people in our office as a boast sorry (I could suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills), but not only was I not boasting, most of them aren't even Matador employees.

[HANS GRUBER]

And Ayapapaya, if you read my comment about 30 people in our office as a boast sorry (I could suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills)

HA HA!!!

another classic line in the thread that is the saga of the jay reatard re-pre-order debacle of '08!!!

who is going to punch who in the ________ if they say ____________ next???

[grandmaster satch and the bi-curious five]

... when it's released in LP format.

are we sure the deerhunter side will be on the lp? 

[sarramkrop]

This guy seems a little too overproductive in the sense that he seems to put out everything or almost everything that he plays/records. The songs I've heard by him are either very good or totally fogettable. The forgettable songs are growing in numbers, maybe a little quality control over quantity would do him a hell of a lot of good, just to give reliability a chance too.

[TTT]

Just for the record before I started getting bated into the finer points of the douchebaggery, I was initially just pissed off that a kid who lived far away couldn't get some music he wanted, even waiting on the day it came out.  Like he'd done for 3 other singles.  This seems to be in line with your values about the accessibility of music, so I hope you don't have a problem with this part.

I was also mad that he was being told that since he wouldn't get a copy, he actually didn't like the music and wanted an "artifact".  Someone told him that.  I'm not going to feel bad for sticking up for him when he's told that kind of shit. 

I say some dumb shit on here a lot.  But I don't regret anything I said on here today.  This is all very well thought out stuff that I completely and firmly believe in.  There are finer points to it that would need a lot of face to face discussion.  I'd really love to get over and actually talk with some of you fools.  Mike especially, he's a good one.

Yeah, I told him that, but you've got very selective way of putting things.  My point was that the dude's opinion of the music seemed to hinge on him being one of the few folks who would actually own a copy of the single.
Like I said I feel that we've been pretty up front about how many of these things we are making and how they are being distributed to consumers and stores. However, A lot of folks who might want them are not going to get copies of this single and the next two. 
And Ayapapaya, if you read my comment about 30 people in our office as a boast sorry (I could suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills), but not only was I not boasting, most of them aren't even Matador employees.

So you're right.  I do have a very selective way of filtering through what people say is happening and writing it down the way it is regardless of that.  I don't feel bad for that. 

See, it isn't weird whether you put a chart up or not on the pressing sizes, did it well in advance or not, it's that when the shit hits the music fan who can't spin one due to these limitations, you want to suddenly rectify that guilt issue from the incoming complaint with accusations toward them; your own supporters.

You make it sound like I'm interpreting your words, I'm doing something to change what you did/said.  Is there another way to interpret when you told that kid to sell all of his 7" singles to cover the cost of a reissue LP?  If you think that, why would you even make/sell the singles if you think they are so meaningless as to suggest that they sell them later to buy another Matador release?  Was that very selective of me to interpret it that way?  Those words I read?  That you wrote?  What a selective interpretation I made of it.

By the way, the kid who asked (as far as you and I knew) was a blank slate.  How could he "seem" any way at all?  He's giving limited info on a message board.  He never seemed to be hinging his opinion on being one of the rare breed of "owners of all singles" for the purposes of bragging rights.  You made the leap.  You asserted these ideas in plain English, and he never said anything in plain "any language".  He said he wanted to continue what he started, which was buying your products that you manufacture.  So if anything you have had the selective interpretation issue that somehow that translates directly into wanting to own artifacts just to be cool. 

[fuckgaze]

most bands that put out limited edition 7 inchers dont have the demand jay does. he has demand. fucking press the goddamn records! i have the first 3 and want the remaining. this is just stupid bullshit really. good honest lables like goner, in the red, p trash, etc have put out jay records and most people who wanted a copy, got a copy. matador hops on the bandwagon now, just like they have always done, and created shit to feed into our mouths. aside from what anyone wants to do with their records, matador is a shitty fucking record label.

i have never had a problem getting any other jay tard record ive wanted.

[Mr T]

... when it's released in LP format.

are we sure the deerhunter side will be on the lp? 

No, but who gives a shit?

[panama fist]

hey can we add an answer to the poll? "i work in a record store and is always ensured my 10 personal copies". thanks!

[mikesniper]

It's actually Dave's revenge on Terminal Boredom and the internet in general.

"Why do I have to be online when a new release comes out to buy it??!" (In reference to HoZac special editions, Skulltones, etc.)

"I just want to walk into a record store and get it!"

And now, your chances are better finding the record at a shop than buying it online.

Which is, I hate to say it, really funny to me.

[panama fist]

just spoke to matador, they are sending all retail copies to park ave in orlando this time. sorry dudes.