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[Clint]

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[bradx]

i'm almost 30 and haven't been single for more than a month since i was 15.  i've been with my wife for over 8 years.  no kids.  i don't think growing up has anything to do with going to shows, those people probably never really enjoyed it to begin with and were just passing time.  crummy jobs, crummy girls, and crummy lives don't have anything to do with music in my opinion.  anyone who really cares about music will make it clear early on so theres no misunderstanding that music is equally important as a relationship, if not more so.  likewise, having a crummy job and life doesn't mean you cant still have a good girl and enjoy music. 

the way i see it those people don't care enough.  for instance, i'm a drummer.  i rarely have lived in a place where i couldn't play drums, because its just that important to me.  anytime i did have to live for a short time without them i was miserable and complained about it all the time.  yet there are so many drummers i know and have known who are satisfied to sell their kits and not play anymore.  my point of view is if it was important they wouldn't have put themselves in a position where they couldn't do it anymore.

i don't think it has anything to do with getting married or having kids, its all about not caring enough.  it's the way i am with video games.  before i was married i would play all kinds of video games.  now that i'm married not so much.  its not because i got married or older, its because i never cared about them that much in the first place and now i get bored even quicker with them.

well, gotta go.  just downloaded the teenage mutant ninja turtles arcade game for MAME last night and its time for TURTLE POWER!!!

[bradx]

yeah, thats why i chose drums as the descriptive.  a guitar player can just get an acoustic or play quietly, but a drummer needs to be dedicated to have a place to play.

the other day i was sitting around thinking, where did i see myself at 30 back when i was a teenager?  i maybe didn't realize i'd be so broke but all the things that are important to me i have. 

i have a house where i can play music 24/7, damn good versions of all the necessary equipment to play and record rock n roll music, over 3,000 arcade games and all the classic console emulators with joypad as well as authentic arcade controls, thousands of records, 2 turntables, a working computer with internet, large yard, grill, fire pit, reliable car, big snowblower and lawn mower, decent sized TV, full kitchen, etc. 

see, it doesn't bother me because i think life is all about choices.  if for them they'd rather be married than play music, thats great.  good for them if theyre doing what makes them happy.  if they aren't happy then they need to change things.  it takes dedication to have music be an important part of your life.  i could care less if a great drummer doesn't want to play anymore.  to them there are more important things i guess.  its easy to get drunk every couple months and tell old friends how much they miss it, if they really did they would do something about it!

[bazooka joe]

why do you care?

[teenagegurls]

why do you care?

cosigned.  motion tabled.

[teenagegurls]

I think wanting to put a 'deep thoughts' message board introspection on the merits of show-going out of its misery is about the most positive contribution there is to offer.

EDITED TO JUST A PICTURE OF MIKE MAKER'S FACE: 

[dusty medical]

this is a sad, sad thread.

[Richie]

Never trust anyone over twenty. Or is it thirty? Or forty? Don't trust anyone with a car. They're obviously soulless shells of human life. Married? Might as well shoot yourself in the face. Homeowners? Fascists.

[bazooka joe]

why do you care?

cosigned.  motion tabled.

"Hey, I wanna join in on the conversation..... Hey wait, I don't have anything good to contribute.  What do I write?  Oh, I know."

it was a legitimate question. i'm wondering why you assume to know what goes on in people's lives. they make their choices and they ain't got nothing to do with you.

[Vince Clortho Keymaster of Gozac]

There are too many flawed points in this argument to address...but you left out the variable of priorities changing as you get older. That's a pretty glaring omission right there.

[tahiti amin]

yeah it doesnt take any kind of heart or passion to dedicate your life to raising a child.  What an empty life that must be.

[griffith]

why do you care?

cosigned.  motion tabled.

"Hey, I wanna join in on the conversation..... Hey wait, I don't have anything good to contribute.  What do I write?  Oh, I know."

Nice that you found  a motto for yourself. You should begin all your posts with it.

[davemartin]

So is anybody on here married?  Anybody with kids?  Anybody that has noticed themselves going to fewer shows since these things have happened?  I myself just turned 29; I still go to as many shows as ever and I'm currently in two bands.

I've been thinking about these things lately because a few weeks ago Scott(guitar player in Rapid Adapter) went to a wedding back home in VA.  There he met up with a bunch of "kids" from back in the day.  They all applauded him for still being in a band and still going to shows at the ripe of old age of 28.

They, on the other hand, were a sad bunch: crummy jobs, crummy lives, crummy girls that are already their wives.  Their big thrill is going to whatever new blockbuster movie comes out that week.

Always just feel so embarrassed for anyone that's married or especially has kids before 30-ish or so.   I know the bulk of people out there are just generic filler and never had anything to offer to begin with.   Ya know, so it's not so sad if they've given up on life, because they weren't ever gonna add anything to the discourse anyways.

Still though, it's weird.  I want to ask all of them, "Haven't you been paying attention?  Don't you know how tacky it is to have kids at 23?"

People, whadda-ya gonna do with 'em?

Clint, Not sure how you'll be able to shoulder both the embarrassment of me breeding before the age of 30 and your total idiocy but with any luck you'll make it.  

[tahiti amin]

you should dump the kids divorce your wife and join Rapid Adapter.  Then you can lead a meaningful enriching life

[SteveBeat]

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