One of the best comments RE: Punk Rock In General...

[Toblerone Zone]

...I've ever seen. 

Comment on this article:

http://www.guitarworld.com/top_30_greatest_punk_albums
(which isn't nearly as funny as I thought it would be, but the comments made up for it by far)

Guy making the case for why Blink 182 should be included on this list:

But Dude Ranch is street punk/pop-punk. And I'm also not some stupid fanboy trying to sit at the cool kids' table because I think I like punk. Albums like Dude Ranch and Cheshire Cat opened the door for me to bands like AFI, Rise Against, The Offspring, which then got me into the "real" punkers like Bad Religion, Good Riddance, The Ramones, Misfits, Propagandhi, Rancid, New York Dolls, etc etc. I'm a board-certified radio disk jockey and former co-host of a punk radio show, and it doesn't even take that kind of experience to see the similarities in musical style between Dude Ranch and any other street punk album with pop overtones.

[vulture]

I agree with that list for the most part. The inclusion of the Electric Eels' God Says Fuck You was a pleasant surprise.

[NATE K]

I agree with that list for the most part. The inclusion of the Electric Eels' God Says Fuck You was a pleasant surprise.

Indeed.

It's technically not an album though. But whatever.

[Scrod Prickknee]

It's a typical rock crit list. UK garbage is criminally overrepresented, but that's the way it usually goes. It's been long enough where even squares are able to cobble together a list of well-accepted "classics." Going by purely musical merit, I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's way better...but as a starter for someone who's never heard this punk before, it's alright.

[Shaun A]

It's technically not an album though. But whatever.

I don't wish to be a frightful pedant but the dictionary definition of 'album' states (and I paraphrase):"A collection or anthology of writings or selections of music". I had this argument many times with my dear grandmother back in Burma long before the days of internet message boards. On sundays, just after evensong, the family would gather round in the parlour at my grandmothers and discuss subjects ranging from "who was the most alcoholic district commissioner", "most tiresome local insurgent group" and "will the kids ever be united?" but more often than not, we'd discuss everyone's top five punk albums. My grandmother, god rest her soul, would become quite irate at my suggestion that the Buzzcocks' "Singles Going Steady" was the best punk album. "It's not a real album!" she'd thunder, "It's a compilation!" and she'd pound her fists against the table top, scattering china and servants hither and yon. Not even holding her down on the floor, forcefully holding open her eyes and placing a copy of the Oxford English in front of her, opened at the approprate page, would ever make her think otherwise. As a family in-joke, we played that particular record in it's entirety at her funeral. It still raises a smile time to time.

[erickelric]

As a family in-joke, we played that particular record in it's entirety at her funeral.

I expect to still be laughing about this in the shower 10 minutes from now (hint hint).

[NATE K]

It's technically not an album though. But whatever.

I don't wish to be a frightful pedant but the dictionary definition of 'album' states (and I paraphrase):"A collection or anthology of writings or selections of music". I had this argument many times with my dear grandmother back in Burma long before the days of internet message boards. On sundays, just after evensong, the family would gather round in the parlour at my grandmothers and discuss subjects ranging from "who was the most alcoholic district commissioner", "most tiresome local insurgent group" and "will the kids ever be united?" but more often than not, we'd discuss everyone's top five punk albums. My grandmother, god rest her soul, would become quite irate at my suggestion that the Buzzcocks' "Singles Going Steady" was the best punk album. "It's not a real album!" she'd thunder, "It's a compilation!" and she'd pound her fists against the table top, scattering china and servants hither and yon. Not even holding her down on the floor, forcefully holding open her eyes and placing a copy of the Oxford English in front of her, opened at the approprate page, would ever make her think otherwise. As a family in-joke, we played that particular record in it's entirety at her funeral. It still raises a smile time to time.

Touche.

[uggly]

a ramones comp at #30 and the mc5's worst record at #2.

a list suitable for gay fags only.

[Toblerone Zone]

To be fair, that list is in chronological order, not quality order, but this aint even about the list! 

Perhaps I'm the only one whose day was so delightfully brightened by that mindbending comment.  I have a great love of uniformed people passionately spouting off about things they know nothing about, but somehow have convinced themselves that they really do.  The more wrong, the more hilarious.

[DJ Rick]

I like that "board-certified radio disk jockey".....like that's tantamount to impeccable taste in punk and mastery of punk history. If anything, it's the exact opposite.

For a magazine as crappy as this, I actually think this list is surprisingly not too shitty overall, and surprisingly good for including the Eels. I'd have sooner expected to see Bad Religion topping their list with punk tangents from the 90s alternative era such as Ministry crowding the list.

[Arturo]

yea, not a bad gateway list for someone who doesn't know too much. I remember picking up some Guitar mag around 95 celebrating 20 years of punk and reading about Crass and Discharge and hardcore bands aside from Black Flag and Minor Threat. Everyone has to start somewhere ya know.

[neighborhoodwatch]

yeah, i expected way, way, way, way worse from GUITAR WORLD

[Toblerone Zone]

Yeah for sure, when I saw the URL and clicked on it I was ready and anticipating for some bigtime LOLs.  I was sad when I saw many respectable, if safe, choices.  The comments made me happy.  Here's some more choice selections:

"What a terrible list. I know I'll probably get buried for saying it, but no Blink 182 or Green Day? They aren't the most original (but then again, few punk bands are), but they DID bring the style of punk to a new generation."

and in reply to that -

"really?!?!? Wow, listen to some of the albums here and you may change your opinion. In any case NOFX is way more influential then either Blink or Green Day."

and also -

"Green Day has always been pop, even before it was in fashion, so I'll respect them for that. They're certainly no Suicide Machines."

I haven't heard arguments like these since checking out the alt.punkrock newsgroup in 1995.  So rad!

BIG fan of this one!

Green Day's "Insomniac" would have fit right in on this list - I'm not the biggist fan of theirs, but that album was Cru-un-chy!

[cracker]

It's technically not an album though. But whatever.

I don't wish to be a frightful pedant but the dictionary definition of 'album' states (and I paraphrase):"A collection or anthology of writings or selections of music". I had this argument many times with my dear grandmother back in Burma long before the days of internet message boards. On sundays, just after evensong, the family would gather round in the parlour at my grandmothers and discuss subjects ranging from "who was the most alcoholic district commissioner", "most tiresome local insurgent group" and "will the kids ever be united?" but more often than not, we'd discuss everyone's top five punk albums. My grandmother, god rest her soul, would become quite irate at my suggestion that the Buzzcocks' "Singles Going Steady" was the best punk album. "It's not a real album!" she'd thunder, "It's a compilation!" and she'd pound her fists against the table top, scattering china and servants hither and yon. Not even holding her down on the floor, forcefully holding open her eyes and placing a copy of the Oxford English in front of her, opened at the approprate page, would ever make her think otherwise. As a family in-joke, we played that particular record in it's entirety at her funeral. It still raises a smile time to time.

Douche.

[Funk Barn]

Cru-un-chy!

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