Who are the Beatles of the 70s?

[Laurent Bigot]

RE: Sex Pistols - I think its quite clear the Ramones had more to do with what the Six Pistols were than ABBA. Not saying they didn't like ABBA, but where is their influence even felt within the Sex Pistols catalogue? Please don't link to a Sex Pistols member wearing an ABBA t-shirt OR Lydon exclaiming how ABBA was more punk than the Ramones (or whoever) in some 90s interview.

I didn't know the Pistols liked Abba (if there's an influence I must've heard the wrong Abba records) but they were playing live since late 75 so a few month before the Ramones first album.

[Laurent Bigot]

And the Beatles of the 90s are Nirvana.

the only difference is that the Beatles being a good band, they started a great wave, Nirvana being a shitty band started a shitty wave.

[Whet Bull]

RE: Sex Pistols - I think its quite clear the Ramones had more to do with what the Six Pistols were than ABBA. Not saying they didn't like ABBA, but where is their influence even felt within the Sex Pistols catalogue? Please don't link to a Sex Pistols member wearing an ABBA t-shirt OR Lydon exclaiming how ABBA was more punk than the Ramones (or whoever) in some 90s interview.

I didn't know the Pistols liked Abba (if there's an influence I must've heard the wrong Abba records) but they were playing live since late 75 so a few month before the Ramones first album.

Right.  I dunno that The Ramones figure prominently in the Pistols' stew of influences, at least not any more than The Dolls and The Heartbreakers, The Stooges, The Monkees, The Modern Lovers, or... um, Van der Graf Generator. 

Coincidentally, I was up late last night watching VH-1 Classic (as I often am) and caught the Classic Albums: Never Mind the Bollocks, in which McLaren sez that Jones and Cook (or one of 'em, I forget) were into ABBA.

[Laurent Bigot]

in which McLaren sez that Jones and Cook (or one of 'em, I forget) were into ABBA.

Maybe it's true, but I don't think McLaren is the most reliable source and he may have said that to ridicule them. I'm sure they probably also dug worst acts anyway.

[Whet Bull]

in which McLaren sez that Jones and Cook (or one of 'em, I forget) were into ABBA.

Maybe it's true, but I don't think McLaren is the most reliable source and he may have said that to ridicule them.

Probably.  It's hard to imagine Jones or Cook being into ABBA, frankly; Lydon... maybe. 

Jones seems like a pretty fucking cool bloke, even now.  Not that ABBA is uncool.

[Laurent Bigot]

Jones seems like a pretty fucking cool bloke, even now. 

I never paid much attention to Jones who I thought was even more an idiot than Vicious, but when I saw them live, I found out he was the one with the biggest charisma. He totally blew my mind without even doing anything special (except playing that wicked guitar).

[the cool ruler]

Ramones vs. Led Zepplin?  You could argue either, but I think it's gotta be the Ramones.  Both basically started a new genre within rock n roll, but which is more important?  Punk or Hard Rock?  And I would say that The Ramones were a more ground breaking.  Led Zepplin has gained more general popularity, and may have even influenced more bands, but the bands that have been influenced by The Ramones are much better than the bands that have influenced Led Zepplin in general.  So I would say Ramones

And I would say Black Sabbath before I would say Led Zepplin

[bradx]

And the Beatles of the 90s are Nirvana.

the only difference is that the Beatles being a good band, they started a great wave, Nirvana being a shitty band started a shitty wave.

thats retarded.  first off, nirvana were a great band.  secondly, they inspired countless teens to pick up guitars.  yes, the majority of them ended up playing bullshit, but the majority of people are always going to suck.  however, almost everyone i know who is around the same age as me started playing music because of nirvana, and just from people i know many of them went on to play worthwhile music.  also, the beatles probably influenced as many shitty bands as nirvana, or more, especially when they got all druggy with their later albums and everyone and their sister were trying to emulate them.  FUCK the beatles~

[bradx]

Ramones vs. Led Zepplin?  You could argue either, but I think it's gotta be the Ramones.  Both basically started a new genre within rock n roll, but which is more important?  Punk or Hard Rock?  And I would say that The Ramones were a more ground breaking.  Led Zepplin has gained more general popularity, and may have even influenced more bands, but the bands that have been influenced by The Ramones are much better than the bands that have influenced Led Zepplin in general.  So I would say Ramones

And I would say Black Sabbath before I would say Led Zepplin

so you are saying the riverdales are better than the white stripes? 
who was the black sabbath of the 90s?

[abusive_husband]

Liquor Store is the Beatles of the future.

[abusive_husband]

Aaron tells me that Nick Gilder is the Beatles of the 70s.

[Laurent Bigot]

nirvana were a great band...

not

[bradx]

in what way is this not great???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGIUpIVvxtY

[Young Steve]

I bought vinyl copies of "Nevermind" and "Incesiticide" in order to flip about a month and half back. Ended up giving 'em a spin and was surprised how good they sounded. having not listened to them in almost fifteen years I'm as removed from the initial hype surrounding them as I'll ever get considering what an impact they had on my formative years - it was a quick hop, skip, and jump from the dirty production of "In Utero" to Teengenerate and the Rip Offs a couple years later - and these records hold up way better than I thought they would taken independently of the epochal impact they had on both mainstream and underground music.

[bradx]

i am watching the buddy holly story for the first time in many years and its better than i remember it.  the buddy holly story was the beatles of the 1970s.

"why'oun't yew get yer niggar luvin' ass back where yew be-long..."