what about real fake punk
like basically the entire roster of FAT WRECK or Epitaph or something
i wouldn't call that stuff fake punk...more just in a league of it's own. warped tour punk maybe. on second thought, most of that shit is pretty fake...mass marketed for the rebelious teenager to gobble up and piss off their parents. i just feel inclined to stand up for nofx because at one point they were real punks i think, i mean, they were a band back in the 80s and stuff and they did put out a record on mystic, a reputable 80's punk label. everything up to pump up the valuum is solid in my opinion, by i have a weak spot for that band because they are one of the first "punk" bands i ever heard. punk in drublic was the first actual punk cd i ever owned i think.