Phoenix/Scottsdale/Tucson

[Mark Beef]

Fer sure.  What's Toxic like these days?  Haven't been there in years.  Seemed pretty desolate last I checked.  What about your venue, Don and Mark?  Would it make sense for you guys to sell records out of that space? 

What's changed in Tucson, y'think?  Obviously record stores are hurting everywhere, but it's crazy that there isn't a single decent vinyl shop in town anymore.  Useta be Tucson could sustain seven or eight small record shops at a time: PDQ, Toxic, Wrex (holy shit, Wrex!), two Bookman's, Al Bum's, a couple Zias, Mad Hatter (which sucked, of course), Jeff's Classical Snobbe Shoppe, Zip's and Loco, that stupid Hear's Music place... Then there was that place that opened up by the Wooden Nickel and had no stock and closed after about a year; that bullshit Luna Loca record place that Wise Folk Whatsisface had going; the techno shop behind Chicago Store.  Shit, even Nogales had a punk record shop for awhile (Roca Rola).  What would it take for a decent record shop to survive in Tuxon these days?

our venue is dead and has been for a couple years...will find out soon if I still have charges because of it

I don't see how doing shows would benefit a record store unless you mean there'd be people there to buy stuff. Pretty sure Wrex was dead before Zia's moved in and that's really what changed for me...when Wrex died and Toxic took over there was a big change in the way of thinking in this town and everything else at least in regard to "punk" shit.

plus just the advent of technology and downloads and brick and mortars going bye bye

 

[tango fistula]

Any space in Tucson would have to multi- use to survive
(venue-record store-screen print-rehearsal space-crashpad)

[uggly]

I don't see how doing shows would benefit a record store unless you mean there'd be people there to buy stuff. Pretty sure Wrex was dead before Zia's moved in and that's really what changed for me...when Wrex died and Toxic took over there was a big change in the way of thinking in this town and everything else at least in regard to "punk" shit.

mr. inferno hooked me up w/ my (second) red squares for $10.  more than billy sass ever done for me.

briefly considered opening up a record store in tucson circa 2005 or so.  fortunately, we decided against it--ended up liquidating the 3,000+ potential stock items via ebay, the annual record show and eastside. 

i still feel really lucky to have dodged that bullet.

[Whet Bull]

A combination record store / dildo factory would go over pretty well, I think.  Why hasn't anyone tried this already? 

Dildos, hot dogs, Oh Sees singles.  Maybe Chick Cashman wants to invest.

[uggly]

i think if a record store could incorporate henna lessons, a hookah bar and maybe a satellite "beyond bread" location, it would really prosper in tucson.

[Whet Bull]

No one in Tucson needs henna lessons except maybe [ltd. ed. joke -- redacted].   You learn it intuitively as you cross the threshold from 1-10 into CDO.  Mrs. Bull bought a sarong from one of the six headshops on 4th Ave once and didn't realize until we got home and unwrapped it that it was emblazoned with subliminal slogans like "Practice yoga, eat healthy, Al Perry Rules, do drugs at Club Congress, eat Maya Quetzal, Antigone books, saguaro, mandala #1"

[Edward James Homos]

Open up a store that sells nothing but Nobunny memorabilia.

[uggly]

damn, dick is MEAN.

[Whet Bull]

Not as mean as this awesome thread from the City of Brotherly Love!

http://board.crewcial.org/thread/view/351024/&p=102

[Mark Beef]

thank you for that Loy

[tango fistula]

I don't see how doing shows would benefit a record store unless you mean there'd be people there to buy stuff. Pretty sure Wrex was dead before Zia's moved in and that's really what changed for me...when Wrex died and Toxic took over there was a big change in the way of thinking in this town and everything else at least in regard to "punk" shit.

mr. inferno hooked me up w/ my (second) red squares for $10.  more than billy sass ever done for me.

briefly considered opening up a record store in tucson circa 2005 or so.  fortunately, we decided against it--ended up liquidating the 3,000+ potential stock items via ebay, the annual record show and eastside. 

i still feel really lucky to have dodged that bullet.

I dunno....depends on the lease deal...

Stupid Dry River hippies have both rooms (1400 sq ft each) at University and Main
for 650 a month.

DO-ABLE

Hostile takeover needed
 

[tango fistula]

satellite "beyond bread" location

KEY.

Easier to buy a 20 lb party cooler of strawberry EEGEES-
dump 151 in it-
and sell cups of that instead of records 

[Mark Beef]

I don't see how doing shows would benefit a record store unless you mean there'd be people there to buy stuff. Pretty sure Wrex was dead before Zia's moved in and that's really what changed for me...when Wrex died and Toxic took over there was a big change in the way of thinking in this town and everything else at least in regard to "punk" shit.

mr. inferno hooked me up w/ my (second) red squares for $10.  more than billy sass ever done for me.

briefly considered opening up a record store in tucson circa 2005 or so.  fortunately, we decided against it--ended up liquidating the 3,000+ potential stock items via ebay, the annual record show and eastside. 

i still feel really lucky to have dodged that bullet.

I dunno....depends on the lease deal...

Stupid Dry River hippies have both rooms (1400 sq ft each) at University and Main
for 650 a month.

DO-ABLE

Hostile takeover needed
 

what are "both" rooms? is one of them the dirt floor room? that is pricey
also I'm just gonna start booking shows there and go kick in the door/run off whatever else is going on.....hostile takeover indeed

you want anarchy I'll give you anarchy 

[SLASH]

i'm pretty sure anyone can book at dry river if they want to, it is a free space that is all about promoting diy ethics after all, so your "hostile takeover" won't be needed. yeah, the anarchy speil is lame but it's a small price to play for a space to do shows at that doesn't take door money or charge you for using it (living room, etc.). i'd kill for a space like that, st. louis is a bust now and the only place to book shows takes 50% of the door or more which makes it hard to pay a touring band, much less more than one.

[Mark Beef]

sorry slash you're wrong

my dealings with those retards have ALWAYS been negative and never resulted in ANYONE can book a show....always some lame "well we'd need to have a round table discussion about them playing here" type stupidity

when it was el camino real it was true anarchy and waaaaaaaaaaaaay cooler

plus there's about three other places better for shows anyways