San Francisco: Smoke-Free City

[akpasta]

http://sfappeal.com/alley/2010/03/tougher-smoking-rules-officially-approved.php

San Francisco is the latest of a growing list of cities where it's de-facto illegal to smoke in most public places.

The new ordinance "also prohibits smoking in ... and within 15 feet of business doorways." (i.e. standing in the middle of the street).

Also, no smoking on patios where food is served. But if the patio is a business, you have to be fifteen feet away anyhow.

Also... no smoking at charity bingo games, or homeless shelters. shit.

[robot]

They did this in Vancouver and nothing has changed. I've never heard of anybody getting fined and everybody still smokes near doorways.

[roadkill33]

only going from experience, in chicago not even the police want to enforce the bullshit law of being 15 feet of a doorway. for the most part.

some bars and other places get uptight if you are too close, this is probably more for the reason of not having their entrance littered with cigarette butts


2 years in i don't mind the smoking ban TOO much, just sucks having to go outside during the winter but yeah, whatever.

it'll probably be the standard in the US within the next decade or so

[wnkrs]

yeah but at least in chicago we can smoke in patio areas, got dang!!!!!!!!!!!

[manchovies]

all the bars here now smell like urine instead of ciggy smoke.  take yer pick.

i smoke like a chimney and i hate the smell of other peoples smoke...especially if im eating. 

[SteveBeat]

i don't think i have been in a worse-smelling bathroom than mohawk place in b-lo

[Erin S]

You can still smoke in bars in Lafayette... I wonder for how long.

But who wants to be inside anyways, it's so nice outside today. After months of cold and darkness I forgot how beautiful Lafayette is when its nice out. Midwestern summers are the best.

I think the grossest non-gas station/rest stop bathroom I've ever been in was at the Blue Danube in Columbus. I've been there two or three times and it's always smelled like some disgusting hodgepodge of stale urine and sewage.

[manchovies]

i don't think i have been in a worse-smelling bathroom than mohawk place in b-lo

you've never been to MERLINS (home of wizard rock).  ask test patterns about that place.  or Nietzsche's or...i should stop now.  

merlins would have syringes floating in their unflushable, always bowling over toilet.  and other various things.  the place has since been seized by the IRS, though the health commissioner probably should have years ago.  they also served food. 

[doctordenim]

Most bars and clubs here allow you to smoke inside. It wouldn't be terrible if I had to go outside to smoke, but I like smoking inside with some beers. I don't even mind people who smoke around me when I'm eating. The only law we have against smoking is smoking cigars by the bar. You can't do that, which is too bad, but understandable.

Smoking indoors, beer 24/7 = necessary for good living

[DJ Rick]

The new ordinance "also prohibits smoking in ... and within 15 feet of business doorways." (i.e. standing in the middle of the street).

Wasn't it something like 30 feet in Davis? They did that back in 1994 or so. The ultimate nanny state is Davis. You can't even change a lighting fixture in your bathroom or put a pre-built TUFF SHED in your backyard without a city inspector approving it.

There's a Volvo 240 DL wagon in Davis with a "DAVIS: FIRST SMOKE-FREE CITY" bumper sticker on the back right balanced by a "DAVIS: FIRST PRO-CHOICE CITY" sticker on the left.

[kolaola]

yeah but at least in chicago we can smoke in patio areas, got dang!!!!!!!!!!!

i thought those places were just turning a blind eye. can anyone else weigh in on this?

the only place to smoke indoors in chicago is the vfw. vets get to chill however they wan't in their bar.

[erickelric]

I think the grossest non-gas station/rest stop bathroom I've ever been in was at the Blue Danube in Columbus. I've been there two or three times and it's always smelled like some disgusting hodgepodge of stale urine and sewage.

Awesome. I worked there once upon a time. Everybody was blitzed out of their mind on a different drug. The manager took a lot of trips
to the crystal palace, and I ain't talkin about the vodka. Played a lot of Black Sabbath, Faust, The Fall and Slayer in that kitchen. Usually just pissed outside in the alley.

[robot]

In vancouver they made it so bars had to build a special smoking room with ventilation and all that.  So all the bars spent thousands of dollars on these smoking rooms, then a couple of years later the city banned those as well. Bars were choked.

[roadkill33]

yeah but at least in chicago we can smoke in patio areas, got dang!!!!!!!!!!!

i thought those places were just turning a blind eye. can anyone else weigh in on this?

the only place to smoke indoors in chicago is the vfw. vets get to chill however they wan't in their bar.

yeah!  i went to a chicken party that some friends were having at a vfw (my admission was actually pay for playing a show) and at the downstairs bar we were allowed to smoke. this was an advantage because it was the second week of january....  for some reason the vet behind the bar told us smokers to stay on one half of the room, as if it wasn't going to travel to the opposite side in their tiny basement?  weird though!!

[TTT]

when can we get the legislation about not being 15 near any product containing any of the same chemicals found within this deadly cigarette smoke everyone is so afraid of?  total joke. 

are fuggin smoke stacks illegal?  no?  then lemme puff this shit.  i feel like a group of soccer moms made this law at a PTA meeting or something, then gave it to one of their rich ass powerful husbands to pass.