While I don't think these guys are great, they do have something mildly interesting going on, at least within the sphere of music that they're operating in. Some pretty catchy tunes, and they're always name-dropping Suicide and Royal Trux in interviews, and they just had Helios Creed open for them, which at least means they have good taste and are trying to turn on their fanbase ala Kurt Cobain (obv not to nearly the same magnitude).