in fall of 1993 I got a video of thee insects. At that time, they were playing locally almost weekly and me and rj would always go see them play. They even played at my 16th birthday party. We first heard the tantrums in 1995 on bittys power ground video, one song. We loved that song and played it endlessly, but we never saw the band or heard anything else of it until I joined the band. You guys certainly influenced us as far as music we listened to, but nigel was way more of an influence on learning how to play our instruments and stage presence, by the time I joined the tantrums I had been playing guitar and drums for over 5 years, my style was pretty tight, it was a knowledge of cool music that was lacking. I was already well aware of link wray, surf, nuggets, uk and new york punk etc. What you guys did was open our eyes to amazing shit like back from the grave and killed by death. Still, when you listen to thee insects originals and tantrums originals, it's obvious which were more of an influence on our music. Also, me and rj were backing nigel at the same time as lsok and the tantrums, we even played some gigs where I was in all three bands at once! On the other hand, well before I ever heard the tantrums I owned both depo records and had them memorized note for note, so of course shimon was a big influence to me early on. So was radiohead though, so whatever. Tantrums were awesome when we played with teengenerate, that was one of the most fun shows of my life. I don't have a problem with jamie, any feud between us is only in his head.