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It doesn't get much better than this...
« on: September 16, 2011, 11:03:14 AM »
Ramones 'It's Alive' doc, you've probably seen it a dozen times, but Johnny died today 7 years ago, so here's something to remind you that it probably doesn't get much better than this:

http://boingboing.net/2011/09/16/the-ramones-at-their-best-in-london-1977.html

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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 11:34:40 AM »
It DOES NOT get better than this. EVER.
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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 11:03:10 PM »
holy shit. 7 years.
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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 11:32:40 PM »
also, after eating that chicken vindaloo, it does NOT get better than this. EVER.
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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 01:21:39 AM »
I dunno, I just watched a documentary on Nik Rok 'n Roll, one of the Soviet Union's first punks. When he was in high school he was confronted by an undercover KGB agent for listening to rock 'n roll and was then put in a mental institution where they attempted to chemically lobotomize him. When he got out instead of silencing himself or at least carefully watching his actions and words, he started making punk rock. He was known as the Iggy Pop of the Soviet Union because of his on stage self-mutilation. He was a friend of Yanka Dyagileva and not only saw her perform in my old home town of Kurgan in the late 80's, but performed with her on stage as well. He is still out there today making music, searching out bands that have that spark of passion and life that helped inspire him onto the path he's blazed through history... and from his own accounts, he's come up largely empty handed:

"Were they in prison?
Were they beaten with truncheons?
Were they separated from their mothers?
Did they suffer for their ideas?
Suffer for their faith in rock 'n roll?

No?!

Then fuck 'em!"

In my not-very-fuckin'-humble opinion, it doesn't get better than that. Nope.

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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 05:41:54 AM »
k that is a stupid philosophy.  music isnt Al-Qaeda.  its not a contest of who suffered more.  the ramones rule cause they wrote a ton of catchy tunes at the perfect time, put on lots of energetic shows, made great records for a while.  

this russian guy suffered for his ideas, great, i might be more willing to respect him because of that, but im not gonna give him the consolation prize of automatically hailing his music.  thats some apologist horseshit.  music is for listening to, not reading about.  until this guy puts out a discography as awesome and timeless as the ramones did, he doesnt stand a chance in this fight...
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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 06:47:09 AM »
I like the Ramones. They're a good band. Nice image, and Dee Dee is worth celebrating.

Just sayin', I think that one quote/idea by Nik Rock 'n Roll is far cooler than the whole legacy of the Ramones. I don't expect nor care if most people to agree. A large percentage of people I meet through "punk" are like directly descended from the Ramones, they dress like them, their music often sounds a lot like theirs, they even borrow their outlook and sense of humor. It's not like I'm unaware of their status around here or anything. I happen to think they're a good pop/rock band, but they're not one of my favorites, not even close.

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I understand that's that's the American view of music. The Russian view of music is that lyrics are the most important element. That was one of the ideas that was explored in the documentary. In the movie Nik is searching for new music that will move him and he briefly follows, interviews and watches four different modern Russian underground/alternative bands. One of them is an instrumental post-rock band that complains about the Russian lyrical tradition and talks about how they're able to better express themselves without lyrics. Another talks about how politics are banal and part of the everyday and they're looking for something higher and more artistic. The most interesting of all the bands he follows - Last Tanks In Paris - and their fans face gov't/police persecution for their lyrics/stance, yet they admit after meeting Nik, once he leaves the room "he's a genius, we're a bunch of jerks."

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until this guy puts out a discography as awesome and timeless as the ramones did

A difficult feat to achieve from inside a prison cell, or in a place without electric guitars, or microphones, or in a place where there is no means of producing records, or distributing them, and a place that even if you could, nobody has the money to purchase them.

Jus' sayin'.


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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 07:42:12 AM »
you can have music w/o lyrics.

i'd hate to be known as the anyone of another place.

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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 07:45:09 AM »
i'd hate to be known as the anyone of another place.

Yeah, well, that's simply a byproduct of US cultural imperialism. He's nothing like Iggy Pop, actually.

I've heard GrOb referred to as the Russian _______ before too, when they have little in common with anything outside of Siberia. They don't even have much in common with the rest of the Soviet/Russian rock scene.

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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 08:37:36 AM »
Oh, man, I love the Beatles and the Stones.  Those guys were the best.  Unbeatable. 
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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2011, 10:53:27 AM »
Johnny Ramone was an asshole.

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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 12:17:45 PM »
As if on cue...

Johnny Ramone was an asshole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx1hMaZqc00

God bless Johnny Ramone.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 12:18:25 PM »
Also, for some reason I'm at the point with the Ramones that all I ever enjoy listening to anymore is the first album. Not really sure why.
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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2011, 12:37:14 PM »
"I happen to think they're a good pop/rock band, but they're not one of my favorites, not even close."


I can now ignore anything and everything you post.

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Re: It doesn't get much better than this...
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2011, 01:26:27 PM »
Oh, man, I love the Beatles and the Stones.  Those guys were the best.  Unbeatable. 
i know right???