Social interactions that don't involve alcohol?

[bradxxx]

i have sought through prayer and meditation to come closer to God as i understand him, and i consciously asked him to guide me on my way, he said "drink up, have a good time".  thanks god!

[Asshole Face]

i have sought through prayer and meditation to come closer to God as i understand him, and i consciously asked him to guide me on my way, he said "drink up, have a good time".  thanks god!

i smell liver problems coming...sounds fun. Enjoy the faygo and ancient age. Or natty ice on ice...one of those hasta be tops on your list :-)

[bradxxx]

it must be one hell of a disease since people stop drinking on their own all the time, its a disease that can be cured through exercise of free will???

rad!

alcoholism is a choice not a disease, but now that you seem to have all the logical and empirical evidence on your side and claim it is, real fucking nice that you are here calling me "retarded" and making other judgements of something i have no control over.  gonna stop at the cancer ward and kick some of those diseased people around next? 

i dont need a doctor or a nurse to tell me that a disease cannot be cured by mere exercise of free will.  thats common sense.  the theory that alcoholism is a disease is absolute bullshit. 

"only 25 percent of physicians believed that alcoholism is a disease. The majority believed alcoholism to be a social or psychological problem instead of a disease. (S.I. Mignon. Physicians' Perceptions of Alcoholics: The Disease Concept Reconsidered. Alcoholism Treatment Quarterly, 1996, v. 14, no. 4, pp. 33–45)

A survey of physicians at an annual conference of the International Doctors in Alcoholics Anonymous reported that 80 percent believe that alcoholism is merely bad behavior instead of a disease. (Barrier to Treatment. Alcoholmd - Information About Alcohol and Medicine)

Dr. Thomas R. Hobbs says that "Based on my experiences working in the addiction field for the past 10 years, I believe many, if not most, health care professionals still view alcohol addiction as a willpower or conduct problem and are resistant to look at it as a disease." (T.R. Hobbs. Managing Alcoholism as a Disease. Physician's News Digest, 1998.)"

http://www.baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm

[bradxxx]

i have sought through prayer and meditation to come closer to God as i understand him, and i consciously asked him to guide me on my way, he said "drink up, have a good time".  thanks god!

i smell liver problems coming...sounds fun. Enjoy the faygo and ancient age. Or natty ice on ice...one of those hasta be tops on your list :-)

enjoy the view from your high horse as you kick the guy who is down, diseased and powerless...  youre a really nice person.  i hope you feel great about yourself. 

[Asshole Face]

i have sought through prayer and meditation to come closer to God as i understand him, and i consciously asked him to guide me on my way, he said "drink up, have a good time".  thanks god!

i smell liver problems coming...sounds fun. Enjoy the faygo and ancient age. Or natty ice on ice...one of those hasta be tops on your list :-)

enjoy the view from your high horse as you kick the guy who is down, diseased and powerless...  youre a really nice person.  i hope you feel great about yourself.

i do. Which is it? Are you diseased and powerless? What exactly do you "not have control over"? Your drinking problem?

[Asshole Face]

Also, I'm pretty sure I could come up with stupid google'd "facts" supporting my side of this argument

[bradxxx]

What exactly do you "not have control over"?

i was referencing the 12 step program. 

Are you diseased and powerless?

you seem to believe i am.  unless there is some new definition of disease that is curable through exercise of free will.  at the same time you declare alcoholism a disease, you delight in calling someone stricken with the disease "retarded"...  real fucking nice. 

well, since only 25% of physicians consider alcoholism a disease, i guess 75% of them are "retarded" too.  they should probably check with "Asshole Face" from now on, you seem to have all the answers. 

[Asshole Face]

What exactly do you "not have control over"?

i was referencing the 12 step program. 

Are you diseased and powerless?

you seem to believe i am.  unless there is some new definition of disease that is curable through exercise of free will.  at the same time you declare alcoholism a disease, you delight in calling someone stricken with the disease "retarded"...  real fucking nice. 

well, since only 25% of physicians consider alcoholism a disease, i guess 75% of them are "retarded" too.  they should probably check with "Asshole Face" from now on, you seem to have all the answers.

i have now been declared as all knowing by Officer Brad!! Yay for me! I hope to argue with you again soon. It's been fun douchebag

[bradxxx]

you certainly seem to believe you are.  douchebag?  thats pretty cool too.  now, due to a disease i am helpless to cure without turning myself over to god and a room full of dry drunks, i am nothing but a retarded douchebag. 

dont flatter yourself, a handful of playground one liner insults hardly is an argument.  i could flip you off and fart and it would be a more compelling argument than what you have put forth. 

[Asshole Face]

you certainly seem to believe you are.  douchebag?  thats pretty cool too.  now, due to a disease i am helpless to cure without turning myself over to god and a room full of dry drunks, i am nothing but a retarded douchebag. 

dont flatter yourself, a handful of playground one liner insults hardly is an argument.  i could flip you off and fart and it would be a more compelling argument than what you have put forth.

how about fat too? You are a fat retarded farting douche lol

Wikipedia seems to have some good info on this DISEASE, quoting sources like the AMA. Not the 3 doctors you quoted. I think the AMA might be reputable...I don't know. Maybe Ziggy is more of an expert

[bradxxx]

that was pretty good!  i admit i did literally lol. 

[Asshole Face]

that was pretty good!  i admit i did literally lol.

good for you lololololololol

[bradxxx]

The promulgation of the disease concept, in conjunction with AMA approval, has created a multi-billion dollar treatment industry that contributes billions to the health care industry.

again,
http://www.baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm

[Asshole Face]

Since you spent so much time in AA as a kid...was it mommy or daddy that passed this down to you. A 12 pack a day is a problem...ANY doctor would tell you that. I don't need to read your Stephen Baldwin research to know that.

Does that $10/hour pizza job give you benefits? Because you should see a doctor...you are horribly misinformed.

Who am I kidding? Buy tapes from Officer Brad so he can afford to pay for a doctor before he ends up draining our paychecks at a county hospital!!

[bradxxx]

i am just following the 12 steps.  i realized i am powerless over this disease and i turned it over to the will of a higher power.  so far gods will seems to be that i keep doing what i have been doing, so i guess the 12 step program is working. 

i dont believe in doctors, they arent mentioned in the 12 step program.  i am leaving things up to gods will.  so unless i hear otherwise from a higher power, i guess i will be cracking a beer in a couple minutes.