Lou Reed: Dead

[Whet Bull]

No, asshole.  He gave it a good one.

Dude, what difference does it

make? 

I'm not asking you to hate

                                      the

                                          guy. 

I like Forced Exposure as much as             the next guy. 

I just think his eulogy sucks,
it's really arrogant

and insulting and record-nerdish, and so what. 

Next time I see him I can't look at him,
'cos this is what I think.

I'm sure he's thankful for your generous lifetime pass, O Ye Who Do Not Judge.

[Whet Bull]

Unless you think

In Heaven,

when Byron finally meets Lou

Byron will have the nerve to go up to

him

and go, "You electroshocked cocksucker"

And Lou will give him the time of day

***

For the record

(npi)

I posted a rude remark about the dead Beastie Boy

because I do not know him

and I did not feel sad when he died

but I do not pretend to be his EQUAL

And no I would never even approach him

in real life (nor in death)

because I have nothing

to say to him

nor he to me

[Whet Bull]

But I did feel bad

that my remark made

some of my friends feel

bad

so I admit it was ill advised

tho' I still find it funny

[Whet Bull]

And I just realized,
it's kinda funny
that Byron Coley gets a lifetime pass
from some of you
but not so Lou

[androo]

And I just realized,
it's kinda funny
that Byron Coley gets a lifetime pass
from some of you
but not so Lou

coley has no lifetime pass from me

 
in fact i got a major gripe with the guy

not about a bad review tho

'cause i never gotten anything positves

from the guy

big stinkin' deal...

i just thought he wrote

it from as some kinda irreverent ode

from a true life time fan boy

and maybe

a reaction to syrupy

over the top eulogies/r.i.p's

that flowed

but i dunno thats just my take

[I Am Not Marty Feldman]

Byron Coley hates Joni Mitchell.  Hey, what a statement. 

[Mark Beef]

first fallout from his death


the jonas brothers broke up

[Swampy]

I've never met Byron Coley.

I've never been to New York City, where some of you live.

Coley had a column in the back of fuckin' Spin Magazine, which I bought at a gas station in a town of 3,000 people, where I lived at the time. A long time ago, really...

I don't really follow what Coley has written, nor do I follow what any music critics write, really... Snippets here and there. I don't look at the name of somebody reviewing a record anymore...

I'm SUPERIOR TO YOU ALL.

I did read his eulogy/poem as it was some fanboy blurt, but it wasn't as bad as some of you make it out to be.

I generally don't have time to cultivate wordy and insightful threads on this message board anymore, but I have 3 vacation days off of work which I'm spending at home, so maybe I'll be foolish enough to waste my time on some of this shit over the coming days...

[Eazy-E]

Barbara Billingsley died, so did Carol Burnett.

You     !!!!

Heartless     !

Cunts     !!

[bazooka joe]

read whett again and get over thine self.

[Sukebe GG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c8-OtQZ9_8

[cenotaph]

Byron's probably better served in his own thread, but I agree with Whet Bull about the shittyness of the eulogy but also, if The Collected Music Writings of Byron Coley were ever published, I'd be the first person to buy it. I met him once and the experience left a bit to be desired.  When he dies, I'll write a eulogy to him about that experience.

[Scrod Prickknee]

Coley has impacted my life in so much greater a fashion than Lou Reed that it's silly to even compare the two. Lou made several great albums with a seminal band (and some neat-o exploit-teener dance numbers previously); every single solo record SUCKED, as stated by m-feld above; I love the Metal Machine Music concept, and have the 8-track sitting out so it's occasionally in my purview. I love VU, and they are amongst the all-time greats. However, like Swampy, I lived out in the middle of nowhere growing up. Forced Exposure (and Coley in Spin, B-Side, and many other contributions) opened up the window to VU and an entire world of music and "the arts." Philip K Dick, Coley. Meltzer, Coley. Rory Hayes, Coley. And on down the line. There was no internet, there were no fellow travelers, it was only mags like Forced Exposure that gave me access to the good stuff, and none were more important to me than Coley.

His poetry sucks. He's goofy as a talking head. But to this day, he does more positive shit than Lou has done in decades. Fuck Lou Reed - he was truly a remorseless fucking asshole - we've all read Transformer, no? I didn't know him, I don't care about the effusive praise of his garbage solo work or even his important work in VU (what's some clueless shitneck going to tell me that I don't already know?). He died in the early 70s anyway.

[Whet Bull]

Since we're eulogizing Byron, let me say that his Underground column in Spin was really important to me as a kid growing up in a provincial corner of the world, and that I got a lot out of his stuff in Forced Exposure when I was real young and trying to work out the lay of the land.  I've met him a bunch of times and liked him well enough.  He sold me a bunch of good records and was always instructive, never a snob.  He still writes good reviews for Wire.

That said, I dunno how much reverence one ought to pay any record reviewer / collector / critic, and he's done his fair share of garbage in the past twenty years.  Come the fuck on. 

I'm all for slaying (or tipping) sacred cows; he's a sacred cow too, he just happens to be closer to all of us in stature and he's "our man in the field," etc., for what that's worth. 

I don't even care about Lou's solo career very much.  That's not really the point. 

I meant "vulgar" as in _____, not as in _____. 

XO,
WB

[Scrod Prickknee]

I hear ya, and I don't fully disagree, but I do disagree somewhat.

Lou Reed - he died.