Records that lost their luster

[erickelric]

When it comes to later DC I far prefer listening to Dismemberment Plan than Fugazi.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww *puking emoji*

[erickelric]

Separated by 5 seconds on that one! Worst fucking band.

[Matt]

I was excited to see the Zodiac Killers once.

Me too. I saw them twice—once at one of the Blackouts and then once in IN with the Kill-A-Watts. The IN show they had a zodiac sign which they set on fire—apparently the girl's (forget her name or likely never knew it) brother was in the audience and somebody was messing with him. She jumped in on the scuffle and knocked over the zodiac sign onto the stage and caused a small fire. Made for an entertaining show. 


Oddly enough, yesterday I was wearing a Kill-A-Watts shirt I got at that very show some 10 years ago.

[Buddysocks]

This thread is pretty funny.
Rip Off Recs artwork went way downhill after Greg and his girlfriend (Suzanne?) broke up. She'd been in charge of the color art up until then.
I saw half an Oh Sees show earlier this year in Cleveland. My wife likes one of their records. We both love The Blind Shake?who were opening. Thee Oh Sees were pretty bad and then got all jam-bandy with long-winded soloing and crap. I left and hung out in the bar with Bim while my wife stayed to watch the rest. Their crowd was like a modern Black Lips crowd: half-hippy/half-hipster college bros and bro-ettes.

On topic: The first Van Halen record doesn't hold up nearly as much as Billy Squier's "Don't Say No".   

[Killr]

Nothing, because all my opinions are perfect and I have and only ever will like good things.

[Dick]

*cough*mysterious guy hc*coughcough*

[Mattpabst]

When it comes to later DC I far prefer listening to Dismemberment Plan than Fugazi.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww *puking emoji*

Living in DC in the 90s I have seen that band way too many times. I honestly never got why people thought they were a punk band, pure boring indie rock to me.

[SLANG EDIT]

Also the Oh Sees we're always boring to me.  The progenitors of diet psych.  No tunes at all.  Live show was boring, I never got the appeal.  I saw them live outside once and was so bored, I started throwing bottle caps at Dwyer's head during their set.  He was not pleased....

Damn... You're so cool. Good job, dude. You should brag about that like alllllllllllll the time!

[kevin]

Throbbing Gristle:

Back in the day I thought 20 Jazz Funk Greats was their worst album, and now it's the only thing I'll listen to by them, but I'd rather just read an interview than listen to them, though I listen to Chris and Cosey, Psychic TV and Coil all regularly still.

Destroy Oh Boy! for sure, though I guess it didn't mean as much to me as it did most people back then. I liked it fine, but even when it came out I was kinda confused by all the hysteria.

Generally 90's crust stuff with some notable exceptions has not held up well at all for me. There are still a handful of classic albums which mean a lot to me, I'll still pull out Misery's Who's The Fool? and Resist's Ignorance Is Bliss about once a year, but I used to run a distro of that stuff in the 90's and it's hard for me to even imagine a time I could actually enjoy a bunch of that shit. So bad.

[Arturo]

Dirty Sweets. Jesus. Deserve billing "over" Chronics, at least. The spin-off that played the Blackout when one of 'em shit the couch (Winks?) were even worse. Shawn/Shaun/Sean (don't remember) from Dirty Sweets was a pretty cool dude and he did a few slightly better bands after.

Winks might be the worst band I've ever seen.

[Jerry Scotty]

Dirty Sweets. Jesus. Deserve billing "over" Chronics, at least. The spin-off that played the Blackout when one of 'em shit the couch (Winks?) were even worse. Shawn/Shaun/Sean (don't remember) from Dirty Sweets was a pretty cool dude and he did a few slightly better bands after.

Winks might be the worst band I've ever seen.

Never seen them live but I still remember listening to a track online when they came out (was it 2005?) and thinking "how does anybody like this?". That's weird, that's exceptionally bad.

[tyler boutilier]

Shockingly, I find a lot of the garage from the 90's/2000's holds up, aside from the cheesy RAWK bands. I don't spin them often, but NBT/Rip Off Records deserve a bit more credit than they're getting in  this thread. Unless you guys have something against fun.

My least favourite Rip Off album is the Chinese Millionaires - Detroit Double Cross. I like everything they did outside of what they did for Rip Off. Dirty Sweets LP is boring. I like the Atomsmashers album BECAUSE it's ridiculous. As for the The Shop Fronts LP.... I love it.I don't get the hate for that. Nothing game-changing but it's still a good listen. The Rings cover is better than the original. Jami Wolf's songs on the first
Zodiac Killers album were the best too. I love her vocal. She sounds like a carton of cigarettes

The Metros ST and the Lids ST are the most underrated. The early-mid 2000s was my period for discovering RipOff so I'm partial to a lot of the later era. Discovering that stuff made me have more confidence in what my own band was doing, which was based on just a minimal amount of stuff we heard, like Von Zippers, Teengenerate and GuitarWolf. I love the Teenage Rejects 7''. Loli & the Chones (including the album on Repent) are the greatest punk band I've ever heard from the 90s. Brides and Reds first 7s are my favourite Rip Off Singles. Also, I heard that Captain 9's is putting out a new LP. Also, American Psycho is better than Walk Amon...

[Charlie M]

The first music to lose its lustre as a whole for me was high speed hardcore circa 83-85. Hardcore had blown me away in 82. By 85 it was making me yawn. Not the great twisted bands (Headcleaners, Wretched, Negazione, CCM, White Cross, Mecht Mensch etc.) but the slew of international 3rd rate dreck that equated speed with intensity. I sold/gave away tonnes of records or taped over compilation cassettes I'd briefly adored, ironically often worth silly money now - Bastards, Kaaos, Zyklome A, Moral Demolition, Arroganta Agitatorer,  Inferno, Electro Hippies, Generic (oh the irony), Intense Degree, Svart Framtid, Vorkriegsjugend, Christ On Parade (great live - dull on vinyl), Final Conflict, Doomsday Massacre, Kansan Uutiset, etc etc yawn yawn.

I kept the killers (Agent Orange, BGK, Olho Seco early Social Unrest etc) but the generic dross was so tedious regardless of whatever revisionist dewy-eyed collectors view prevails today....

Lou Reed - Transformer. "Welcome to my record shop. Oh you're a student? It's 1985 so it's compulsory to own this LP. That'll be 5.99 please". To me this record lost is lustre very quickly as did Berlin and the other Reed LPs of this era. I find it extraordinarily dull and lacking in charm. I may have over listened (though not that much to be honest) but I can't bear to hear it these days. Much like any JJ Cale and Van Morrison LPs - which I never liked in the first place.

Post-hardcore Husker Du hasn't lasted too well though I like Moulds post Husker work.

I have fallen out of love with surprisingly little music over the years. This suggests to me that I have exceptional taste. And certainly more than you losers.

[Maltodextrin]

The first music to lose its lustre as a whole for me was high speed hardcore circa 83-85. Hardcore had blown me away in 82. By 85 it was making me yawn. Not the great twisted bands (Headcleaners, Wretched, Negazione, CCM, White Cross, Mecht Mensch etc.) but the slew of international 3rd rate dreck that equated speed with intensity. I sold/gave away tonnes of records or taped over compilation cassettes I'd briefly adored, ironically often worth silly money now - Bastards, Kaaos, Zyklome A, Moral Demolition, Arroganta Agitatorer,  Inferno, Electro Hippies, Generic (oh the irony), Intense Degree, Svart Framtid, Vorkriegsjugend, Christ On Parade (great live - dull on vinyl), Final Conflict, Doomsday Massacre, Kansan Uutiset, etc etc yawn yawn.

I kept the killers (Agent Orange, BGK, Olho Seco early Social Unrest etc) but the generic dross was so tedious regardless of whatever revisionist dewy-eyed collectors view prevails today....

Enthusiastically cosigned, and with remarkably specificity. That's like a perfect representative list of forgettable crud. I collected so much tough-to-find and sought after Swedish/Finnish/Dutch/German/Japanese etc hardcore and now struggle to remember a single song or redeeming feature from this enormous grey pool of drab flailing. Meanwhile, I'll love Black Flag, Bad Brains, Discharge, Minor Threat, DOA etc forever. And there are exceptions-- the fact that the likes of early Anti-Cimex, Wretched, Terveet Kadet and Vorkriegsphase retain their appeal show that it's not just a matter of one's taste changing or mellowing, but of knowing the good from the bad.

[erickelric]

Rip Off is the Fat Wreck Chords of garage punk.

Cracks me up how you guys always argue about that shit as if all but a small fraction is worth a fuck.