Author Topic: Punk is NOT dead!  (Read 9084 times)

Mister Natural

  • Guest
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2020, 04:15:51 AM »
It’s also worth mentioning that the Sex Pistols covered a song from the first album. “Roadrunner.” Also, that John Felice of Boston’s fucking incredible Real Kids was the “hippy Johnny” Richman sung about in the song “I’m Straight.” He played in the band as well. Personally I’m more of a Real Kids guy than a Modern Lovers guy not that it’s a competition. I wish I still had my Real Kids vinyl sometimes. I’m thinking of buying a phonograph and possibly getting back into record collecting.

sex pistols also covered my way that doesnt mean sinatra was a punk.

Yeah but the Modern Lovers sound more like a punk band than Sinatra.

pat boone sounds like more of a punk band than sinatra.  pistols covered alot of not punk songs.  substitute.  the who were not a punk band.  sorry, not having it.  modern lovers are not punk just because sex pistols covered one of their songs, or richman name drops john felice in a song.  they're not punk, and neither is he. 

dude is clearly autistic or aspie or whatever u wanna call it.  i would say he has a childlike innocence.

You’re making a lot of wrong assumptions here dude. If you just go back and reread what I actually wrote you’ll see that I’ve never claimed the Modern Lovers to be a punk band or that Johnathan Rochman is a punk who doesn’t have mental illness.

Ruby

  • Finger Sniffer
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 61
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #106 on: October 07, 2020, 06:56:47 AM »
I never got how to discern where the punk categorization line ends and begins, nor why I should care.

note: I have not and will not read most of this thread.

Sukebe GG

  • Most Valuable Primate
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3652
  • ふふふふふ
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #107 on: October 07, 2020, 08:23:00 AM »
Richman is certainly more punk than Morrisey! stop being a troll Last Sons of Kypton to our fine new member...
But seriously, Richman gets major points for his Velvets fandom...
"Be useless, so no one can use you."

bradx

  • Blankdogger
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1046
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #108 on: October 07, 2020, 02:41:11 PM »
It’s also worth mentioning that the Sex Pistols covered a song from the first album. “Roadrunner.” Also, that John Felice of Boston’s fucking incredible Real Kids was the “hippy Johnny” Richman sung about in the song “I’m Straight.” He played in the band as well. Personally I’m more of a Real Kids guy than a Modern Lovers guy not that it’s a competition. I wish I still had my Real Kids vinyl sometimes. I’m thinking of buying a phonograph and possibly getting back into record collecting.

sex pistols also covered my way that doesnt mean sinatra was a punk.

Yeah but the Modern Lovers sound more like a punk band than Sinatra.

pat boone sounds like more of a punk band than sinatra.  pistols covered alot of not punk songs.  substitute.  the who were not a punk band.  sorry, not having it.  modern lovers are not punk just because sex pistols covered one of their songs, or richman name drops john felice in a song.  they're not punk, and neither is he. 

dude is clearly autistic or aspie or whatever u wanna call it.  i would say he has a childlike innocence.

You’re making a lot of wrong assumptions here dude. If you just go back and reread what I actually wrote you’ll see that I’ve never claimed the Modern Lovers to be a punk band or that Johnathan Rochman is a punk who doesn’t have mental illness.

the title of the topic is punk is NOT dead.  the only part of that jonathan richman fits is the "not dead" part because he was never, and is not, punk. 
Janis Starcunt

bradx

  • Blankdogger
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1046
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #109 on: October 07, 2020, 02:41:44 PM »
Richman is certainly more punk than Morrisey! stop being a troll Last Sons of Kypton to our fine new member...
But seriously, Richman gets major points for his Velvets fandom...

dont tell me what to do you fuckin fuck, lol
Janis Starcunt

Mister Natural

  • Guest
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #110 on: October 07, 2020, 03:40:51 PM »
It’s also worth mentioning that the Sex Pistols covered a song from the first album. “Roadrunner.” Also, that John Felice of Boston’s fucking incredible Real Kids was the “hippy Johnny” Richman sung about in the song “I’m Straight.” He played in the band as well. Personally I’m more of a Real Kids guy than a Modern Lovers guy not that it’s a competition. I wish I still had my Real Kids vinyl sometimes. I’m thinking of buying a phonograph and possibly getting back into record collecting.

sex pistols also covered my way that doesnt mean sinatra was a punk.

Yeah but the Modern Lovers sound more like a punk band than Sinatra.

pat boone sounds like more of a punk band than sinatra.  pistols covered alot of not punk songs.  substitute.  the who were not a punk band.  sorry, not having it.  modern lovers are not punk just because sex pistols covered one of their songs, or richman name drops john felice in a song.  they're not punk, and neither is he. 

dude is clearly autistic or aspie or whatever u wanna call it.  i would say he has a childlike innocence.

You’re making a lot of wrong assumptions here dude. If you just go back and reread what I actually wrote you’ll see that I’ve never claimed the Modern Lovers to be a punk band or that Johnathan Rochman is a punk who doesn’t have mental illness.

the title of the topic is punk is NOT dead.  the only part of that jonathan richman fits is the "not dead" part because he was never, and is not, punk.

Hmm you’re probably right although his early group the Modern Lovers might have something to do with punk.

bradx

  • Blankdogger
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1046
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #111 on: October 07, 2020, 04:13:53 PM »
they did not.
Janis Starcunt

bradx

  • Blankdogger
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1046
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #112 on: October 07, 2020, 04:14:34 PM »
asses in class
Janis Starcunt

Mister Natural

  • Guest
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #113 on: October 07, 2020, 05:27:34 PM »
Gonna get good grades

Sukebe GG

  • Most Valuable Primate
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3652
  • ふふふふふ
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #114 on: October 07, 2020, 07:23:08 PM »
Fuck shit up!
"Be useless, so no one can use you."

bradx

  • Blankdogger
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1046
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #115 on: October 07, 2020, 07:29:59 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI5okqUxi2k

love love love this song.  bubblegum classic. 
Janis Starcunt

Sukebe GG

  • Most Valuable Primate
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3652
  • ふふふふふ
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #116 on: October 07, 2020, 08:04:37 PM »
Mentioned in the YT comments but I wonder how much influence did Richman/ML have on Ric Ocasek?

Also: Did you or anyone here read this book?

I'm not a Van Morrison fan at all and he is just kinda the glue that holds together all the other parts of the book - great read and goes into the VU Boston Tea Party residency and Richman.

Quote
Astral Weeks: A Secret History of 1968
A mind-expanding dive into a lost chapter of 1968, featuring the famous and forgotten: Van Morrison, folkie-turned-cult-leader Mel Lyman, Timothy Leary, James Brown, and many more

Van Morrison's Astral Weeks is an iconic rock album shrouded in legend, a masterpiece that has touched generations of listeners and influenced everyone from Bruce Springsteen to Martin Scorsese. In his first book, acclaimed rock musician and journalist Ryan H. Walsh unearths the album's fascinating backstory--along with the untold secrets of the time and place that birthed it: Boston 1968.

On the 50th anniversary of that tumultuous year, Walsh's book follows a criss-crossing cast of musicians and visionaries, artists and "hippie entrepreneurs," from a young Tufts English professor who walks into a job as a host for TV's wildest show (one episode required two sets, each tuned to a different channel) to the mystically inclined owner of radio station WBCN, who believed he was the reincarnation of a scientist from Atlantis. Most penetratingly powerful of all is Mel Lyman, the folk-music star who decided he was God, then controlled the lives of his many followers via acid, astrology, and an underground newspaper called Avatar.

A mesmerizing group of boldface names pops to life in Astral Weeks James Brown quells tensions the night after Martin Luther King is assassinated; the real-life crimes of the Boston Strangler come to the movie screen via Tony Curtis; Howard Zinn testifies for Avatar in the courtroom. From life-changing concerts and chilling crimes, to acid experiments and hippie entrepreneurs, Astral Weeks is the secret, wild history of a unique time and place.

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/35629741-astral-weeks
"Be useless, so no one can use you."

bradx

  • Blankdogger
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1046
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #117 on: October 07, 2020, 09:07:41 PM »
the weird thing about THEM is seeing the NME performance, and it sounds like those guys never even heard the songs before.  i assume there was some studio wizardry going on behind the scenes. 

Quote
Van Morrison himself weighed in with some rare comments on the subject of Them's personnel in a 1970 Rolling Stone interview: "Around mid-1965 we all decided to split it up. I was still under contract, as was one of the other guys, the bass player [Alan Henderson], so we decided to finish the contract out. We got a new group together but it just wasn't the same group. I mean, the name was 'Them' but it ended up that I was making records with four session men, and they were putting 'Them' on the label. Then they got me and some other people on the road, and 'Them' was just a name...Then we put out a record called Them Again...We were making records where I was making maybe three songs on an album with just studio cats, and maybe the rest of the songs with two studio cats and three members of the group. It was kinda like mish-mash, and it wasn't really any good."
Janis Starcunt

bradx

  • Blankdogger
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1046
    • View Profile
Re: Punk is NOT dead!
« Reply #118 on: October 08, 2020, 01:30:21 AM »
also not punk:  Milo of Descendents has released an EP under the name RebUke. It features Milo playing the ukulele and includes three tracks: "On You"; "Hindsight 2020"; "Royal Flush (feat. Rotten James Dio)".
Janis Starcunt

Sukebe GG

  • Most Valuable Primate
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3652
  • ふふふふふ
    • View Profile
"Be useless, so no one can use you."