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[Clint]

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[vint]

I've been listening to shit like this for years. Not really "breakcore" but nobody really knows what that means anyway.

This shit is pretty cool though. Not too far removed from what my friends and I were doing with Teen Anal Terrorist.

[swastikat]

i don't understand what's wrong with that, if the kids are listening to that in 20 years.  it's pretty cool music, i can listen to that.  should they still only be listening to rip-off-esque garage punk?

[vint]

People who enjoyed this would do well to check out Hearts of Darknesses - Music For Drunk Driving.

[goneoffdatlean]

i don't understand what's wrong with that, if the kids are listening to that in 20 years.  it's pretty cool music, i can listen to that.  should they still only be listening to rip-off-esque garage punk?

Only the Euros listen to Rip Off-esque stuff nowadays.

I don't even know any bands in the states that really even attempt that sound.

I've been kinda burned out on that kinda stuff for a while now

[swastikat]

i know a lot more people that aren't

[Scrod Prickknee]

I don't, really. It seems like I'm the only person who thinks those bands were the best thing that happened to punk since the original era - I'm always defending that shit. I'm not burnt out on it, or I should say I wouldn't be if there were good bands in that style. Sudden Walks are pretty Rip Offy, and they're good. Otherwise, like Troy said, the audience and bands aping the sound primarily reside in Europe. Those bands have no personality, and hence, they suck. I'd take another Loli & the Chones in a heartbeat.

[Scrod Prickknee]

Haven't listened to the link above, but if it's like Teen Anal Terrorist I think I get the idea. Not really my thing in general, but I'd rather see something legit like that than another boring generic garage band with no soul. I don't think I'd wanna listen to it on record, though.

[vint]

It's way better than Teen Anal Terrorist ever got.

We played with Sudden Walks and I thought they were a hardcore band.

[bazooka joe]

that kinda music is already old. 20 years in the future that's gonna be like what 60's hard psych is now.

[vint]

Actually, the video that was posted is in a pretty unique and new style. It's not old at all. In fact, this kind of hard, glitched out electronic music dates back to the late 90's at the earliest, and the advances in sound and technique that seperate them like the difference between proto-punk and hardcore have only been occuring for a few years tops.

[SSR]

Count me as liking that Japanese thing, whatever it is. Sorta reminded me of a funky ATR. Pretty captivating.

90s garage punk definitely was needed to kick some life back into rock & roll, but it had its time to rule. Certainly the records still sound good - good records always sound good - but no need for it to happen again, just as there is no need for 77 punk or psych or mod or surf or rockabilly to happen again...unless someone wants to update it and throw a new twist to it, which some bands do but a lot of band don't.  This current trend toward psych influence and weirdness is bound to wind up jammy, proggy, and/or over-intellectualized and then some new garage thing will rise to freshen things up. It will draw from 90s garage just as 90s garage drew from the Samoans/DMZ/Dangerhouse/etc and 60s punk, but it will be its own thing, and it will probably be pretty damn great, until it gets stale and the cycle will repeat.

[vint]

Umm.... trust me, I'm pretty well versed on this kind of music and although I guess "fucked" is subjective, they're equally deranged. I haven't checked out Hearts of Darknesses myspace, but alot of electronic artists change their style up really quickly. Someone like Drop The Lime went from shit that was so fucked it I can't even describe how fucked it is and followed up his masterpiece of splatter-punk insanity with some straight up commercial dance music. I will say though that Music For Drunk Drivers is just about one of the most retardedly fucked things that has ever been commited to disk. I'm not going to argue about it though.

[SSR]

clint - you couldnt follow that song? i caught on to it. there is definitely a consistent groove there. Tap into that and the shifts dont seem as random. If you focus on the clips & bleeps & that shit, you will get lost.

[LayawayButch]

Clint, what's your take on the sub-sub genre "Witch House"?